• Re: Is democracy without elections possible?

    From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Sun May 10 14:57:03 2026
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    On 5/8/26 11:53 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 8 May 2026 17:53:20 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    (As regularly advocated on ABSFG)

    advocated by julian.

    https://aeon.co/videos/is-democracy-without-elections-possible-could-a-lottery-be-better?

    They would at least no longer be popularity contests. Otherwise, yeh,
    we would still be getting unqualified idiots trying to run the
    country.

    the only way to solve the unqualified idiot problem is continual
    life-long education,

    the only way to actually implement continual life-long education across society is thru intentional consensus making processes
    --
    why are we god?
    let's end war EfOa

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Sun May 10 16:08:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 5/10/2026 2:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 5/8/26 11:53 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 8 May 2026 17:53:20 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    (As regularly advocated on ABSFG)

    advocated by julian.

    https://aeon.co/videos/is-democracy-without-elections-possible-could-
    a-lottery-be-better?

    They would at least no longer be popularity contests.-a Otherwise, yeh,
    we would still be getting unqualified idiots trying to run the
    country.

    the only way to solve the unqualified idiot problem is continual life-
    long education,

    Who decides who is unqualified?

    Obama had a life long education and was a community organizer who had no
    idea how to run a railroad.
    the only way to actually implement continual life-long education
    across
    society is thru intentional consensus making processes

    The consensus is that a mixed economy, both capitalism and socialism is
    the best system, with a free market economy. Like the Nordic model.

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sun May 10 19:25:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sun, 10 May 2026 16:08:40 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/10/2026 2:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 5/8/26 11:53 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 8 May 2026 17:53:20 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    (As regularly advocated on ABSFG)

    advocated by julian.

    https://aeon.co/videos/is-democracy-without-elections-possible-could- >>>> a-lottery-be-better?

    They would at least no longer be popularity contests.a Otherwise, yeh,
    we would still be getting unqualified idiots trying to run the
    country.

    the only way to solve the unqualified idiot problem is continual life-
    long education,

    Who decides who is unqualified?

    Not you, I'm glad to say.

    Obama had a life long education and was a community organizer who had no >idea how to run a railroad.
    the only way to actually implement continual life-long education
    across
    society is thru intentional consensus making processes

    The consensus is that a mixed economy, both capitalism and socialism is
    the best system, with a free market economy. Like the Nordic model.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sun May 10 17:50:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 5/10/2026 4:25 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 10 May 2026 16:08:40 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/10/2026 2:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 5/8/26 11:53 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 8 May 2026 17:53:20 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    (As regularly advocated on ABSFG)

    advocated by julian.

    https://aeon.co/videos/is-democracy-without-elections-possible-could- >>>>> a-lottery-be-better?

    They would at least no longer be popularity contests.-a Otherwise, yeh, >>>> we would still be getting unqualified idiots trying to run the
    country.

    the only way to solve the unqualified idiot problem is continual life-
    long education,

    Who decides who is unqualified?

    Not you, I'm glad to say.

    Well then, that's a wrap for this discussion. The consensus is that US democracy without elections would not be possible for the cited reasons
    above.

    Any objections?


    Obama had a life long education and was a community organizer who had no
    idea how to run a railroad.
    the only way to actually implement continual life-long education
    across
    society is thru intentional consensus making processes

    The consensus is that a mixed economy, both capitalism and socialism is
    the best system, with a free market economy. Like the Nordic model.

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sun May 10 21:19:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sun, 10 May 2026 17:50:04 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/10/2026 4:25 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 10 May 2026 16:08:40 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/10/2026 2:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 5/8/26 11:53 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 8 May 2026 17:53:20 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    (As regularly advocated on ABSFG)

    advocated by julian.

    https://aeon.co/videos/is-democracy-without-elections-possible-could- >>>>>> a-lottery-be-better?

    They would at least no longer be popularity contests.a Otherwise, yeh, >>>>> we would still be getting unqualified idiots trying to run the
    country.

    the only way to solve the unqualified idiot problem is continual life- >>>> long education,

    Who decides who is unqualified?

    Not you, I'm glad to say.

    Well then, that's a wrap for this discussion. The consensus is that US >democracy without elections would not be possible for the cited reasons >above.

    Any objections?

    Nope, I don't think we have the smarts draw any such conclusion.


    Obama had a life long education and was a community organizer who had no >>> idea how to run a railroad.
    the only way to actually implement continual life-long education
    across
    society is thru intentional consensus making processes

    The consensus is that a mixed economy, both capitalism and socialism is >>> the best system, with a free market economy. Like the Nordic model.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon May 11 10:06:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 5/10/2026 6:19 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 10 May 2026 17:50:04 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/10/2026 4:25 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 10 May 2026 16:08:40 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/10/2026 2:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 5/8/26 11:53 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 8 May 2026 17:53:20 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    (As regularly advocated on ABSFG)

    advocated by julian.

    https://aeon.co/videos/is-democracy-without-elections-possible-could- >>>>>>> a-lottery-be-better?

    They would at least no longer be popularity contests.-a Otherwise, yeh, >>>>>> we would still be getting unqualified idiots trying to run the
    country.

    the only way to solve the unqualified idiot problem is continual life- >>>>> long education,

    Who decides who is unqualified?

    Not you, I'm glad to say.

    Well then, that's a wrap for this discussion. The consensus is that US
    democracy without elections would not be possible for the cited reasons
    above.

    Any objections?

    Nope, I don't think we have the smarts draw any such conclusion.

    So, it's not a wrap.

    Direct voting in US presidential elections is not a good idea because it
    would give too much votes to coastal city people who might elect idiot liberals like Gavin Newsom or Zohran Mamdani.


    Obama had a life long education and was a community organizer who had no >>>> idea how to run a railroad.
    the only way to actually implement continual life-long education
    across
    society is thru intentional consensus making processes

    The consensus is that a mixed economy, both capitalism and socialism is >>>> the best system, with a free market economy. Like the Nordic model.

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon May 11 13:34:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Mon, 11 May 2026 10:06:19 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/10/2026 6:19 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 10 May 2026 17:50:04 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/10/2026 4:25 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 10 May 2026 16:08:40 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    On 5/10/2026 2:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 5/8/26 11:53 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 8 May 2026 17:53:20 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    (As regularly advocated on ABSFG)

    advocated by julian.

    https://aeon.co/videos/is-democracy-without-elections-possible-could- >>>>>>>> a-lottery-be-better?

    They would at least no longer be popularity contests.a Otherwise, yeh, >>>>>>> we would still be getting unqualified idiots trying to run the
    country.

    the only way to solve the unqualified idiot problem is continual life- >>>>>> long education,

    Who decides who is unqualified?

    Not you, I'm glad to say.

    Well then, that's a wrap for this discussion. The consensus is that US
    democracy without elections would not be possible for the cited reasons
    above.

    Any objections?

    Nope, I don't think we have the smarts draw any such conclusion.

    So, it's not a wrap.

    Direct voting in US presidential elections is not a good idea because it >would give too much votes to coastal city people who might elect idiot >liberals like Gavin Newsom or Zohran Mamdani.

    Meanwhile the one we have elected the fried brain, talk show hose,
    certified crazy person, himbo.

    Avoiding that looks like an easy choice top me.


    Obama had a life long education and was a community organizer who had no >>>>> idea how to run a railroad.
    the only way to actually implement continual life-long education
    across
    society is thru intentional consensus making processes

    The consensus is that a mixed economy, both capitalism and socialism is >>>>> the best system, with a free market economy. Like the Nordic model.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon May 11 12:26:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 5/11/2026 10:34 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 11 May 2026 10:06:19 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/10/2026 6:19 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 10 May 2026 17:50:04 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/10/2026 4:25 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 10 May 2026 16:08:40 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 5/10/2026 2:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 5/8/26 11:53 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 8 May 2026 17:53:20 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    (As regularly advocated on ABSFG)

    advocated by julian.

    https://aeon.co/videos/is-democracy-without-elections-possible-could- >>>>>>>>> a-lottery-be-better?

    They would at least no longer be popularity contests.-a Otherwise, yeh,
    we would still be getting unqualified idiots trying to run the >>>>>>>> country.

    the only way to solve the unqualified idiot problem is continual life- >>>>>>> long education,

    Who decides who is unqualified?

    Not you, I'm glad to say.

    Well then, that's a wrap for this discussion. The consensus is that US >>>> democracy without elections would not be possible for the cited reasons >>>> above.

    Any objections?

    Nope, I don't think we have the smarts draw any such conclusion.

    So, it's not a wrap.

    Direct voting in US presidential elections is not a good idea because it
    would give too much votes to coastal city people who might elect idiot
    liberals like Gavin Newsom or Zohran Mamdani.

    Meanwhile the one we have elected the fried brain, talk show hose,
    certified crazy person, himbo.

    Case in point. Trump is from New York City.

    Avoiding that looks like an easy choice top me.

    Next time. If you are a US citizen, you can vote in U.S. elections from anywhere in the world.


    Obama had a life long education and was a community organizer who had no >>>>>> idea how to run a railroad.
    the only way to actually implement continual life-long education >>>>>> across
    society is thru intentional consensus making processes

    The consensus is that a mixed economy, both capitalism and socialism is >>>>>> the best system, with a free market economy. Like the Nordic model.

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon May 11 15:39:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Mon, 11 May 2026 12:26:00 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/11/2026 10:34 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 11 May 2026 10:06:19 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/10/2026 6:19 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 10 May 2026 17:50:04 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    On 5/10/2026 4:25 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 10 May 2026 16:08:40 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 5/10/2026 2:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 5/8/26 11:53 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 8 May 2026 17:53:20 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    (As regularly advocated on ABSFG)

    advocated by julian.

    https://aeon.co/videos/is-democracy-without-elections-possible-could-
    a-lottery-be-better?

    They would at least no longer be popularity contests.a Otherwise, yeh,
    we would still be getting unqualified idiots trying to run the >>>>>>>>> country.

    the only way to solve the unqualified idiot problem is continual life- >>>>>>>> long education,

    Who decides who is unqualified?

    Not you, I'm glad to say.

    Well then, that's a wrap for this discussion. The consensus is that US >>>>> democracy without elections would not be possible for the cited reasons >>>>> above.

    Any objections?

    Nope, I don't think we have the smarts draw any such conclusion.

    So, it's not a wrap.

    Direct voting in US presidential elections is not a good idea because it >>> would give too much votes to coastal city people who might elect idiot
    liberals like Gavin Newsom or Zohran Mamdani.

    Meanwhile the one we have elected the fried brain, talk show hose,
    certified crazy person, himbo.

    Case in point. Trump is from New York City.

    Avoiding that looks like an easy choice top me.

    Next time. If you are a US citizen, you can vote in U.S. elections from >anywhere in the world.

    I have been doing that. It really doesn't matter, because Oregon is
    always solidly democratic. If my home state were a battleground, it
    might matter, a little bit. But elections are almost never won by one
    vote.


    Obama had a life long education and was a community organizer who had no
    idea how to run a railroad.
    the only way to actually implement continual life-long education >>>>>>> across
    society is thru intentional consensus making processes

    The consensus is that a mixed economy, both capitalism and socialism is
    the best system, with a free market economy. Like the Nordic model.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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