• Before Jesus went to Heaven, he said:

    From zebrabible@zebrabible@proton.me to alt.bible on Fri Sep 18 10:21:59 2026
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    Before Jesus went to Heaven, he said:

    -- New King James
    John 14:19 "A little while longer and the world will see Me no more,
    but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also.

    "world will see me no more".

    The "world" is the people on the earth. It is not symbolic language.
    It is plain and simple. The context shows it is literal. Notice:

    -- New King James
    John 14:22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, "Lord, how is it that
    You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?''

    or

    -- New Jerusalem with Apocrypha
    John 14:22 Judas, not Judas Iscariot, said to him, "Lord, what has
    happened, that you intend to show yourself to us and not to the
    world?"

    IF JESUS RETURN WAS VISIBLE, THAT WOULD MAKE JESUS A LIAR!

    If you agree with the apostates, you make Jesus a liar. The choice is
    yours.

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Fri Sep 18 11:04:51 2026
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    Sight for Blind Eyes: The World Will See Jesus Again

    The Plain Meaning of John 14:19

    (1) "Yet a little while and the world will see me no more, but you will
    see me. Because I live, you also will live." (John 14:19 ESV)

    (2) "God raised him on the third day and made him to appear, not to all
    the people but to us who had been chosen by God as witnesses, who ate
    and drank with him after he rose from the dead." (Acts 10:40-41 ESV)

    Jesus spoke the words of John 14:19 on the night of His betrayal, hours
    before His crucifixion. In "a little while," the Roman soldiers and
    Jewish leaders buried Him, and the unbelieving world never saw Him again during His earthly ministry. When God raised Jesus from the dead, He did
    not appear openly to the worldly authorities or the unbelieving crowds;
    He manifested Himself exclusively to His chosen disciples. The world saw
    Him no more from the day of His death through His resurrection and
    ascension.

    To take a statement describing His physical departure from the world at
    His crucifixion and apply it as a denial of His bodily return
    contradicts the plain teaching of Jesus and His apostles elsewhere.

    Proposition: John 14:19 describes the termination of Christ's earthly
    ministry before the world, and His exclusive resurrection appearances to
    His disciples, not His glorious Second Coming.

    Direct Statements of Scripture That Every Eye Will See Him

    (1) "Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him,
    even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on
    account of him. Even so. Amen." (Revelation 1:7 ESV)

    Notice what the Scripture says:
    First, "Every eye will see him."
    Second, "Even those who pierced him." The very men who condemned and
    crucified HimrCothe epitome of the unbelieving worldrCowill see Him.
    Third, "All tribes of the earth will wail on account of him." This does
    not refer to believers rejoicing, but to the unbelieving world mourning
    at His visible arrival.

    (2) "Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all
    the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man
    coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." (Matthew
    24:30 ESV)

    Jesus Himself expressly declared that "all the tribes of the earth" will
    "see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven." The phrase "all the tribes of the earth" is identical in meaning to "the world."

    (3) "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus,
    who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you
    saw him go into heaven." (Acts 1:11 ESV)

    How did Jesus go into heaven? He went visibly, bodily, and personally
    before the physical eyes of observers. How does the Bible say He will
    return? "In the same way."

    Proposition: The Bible explicitly and repeatedly declares that the
    entire world, including every tribe of the earth and those who rejected
    Him, will visibly see Jesus Christ at His return.

    Direct Statements of Jesus to Unbelievers Concerning His Visible Return

    (1) "Jesus said to him, 'You have said so. But I tell you, from now on
    you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power and coming
    on the clouds of heaven.'" (Matthew 26:64 ESV)

    Jesus was speaking directly to Caiaphas, the high priest who presided
    over His trial and condemnation. Jesus did not tell Caiaphas that he
    would never see Him again. Jesus warned Caiaphas that he would see the
    Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven.

    (2) "For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the
    west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man." (Matthew 24:27 ESV)

    Lightning is not invisible. Lightning flashes across the entire sky
    where all under heaven can see it. Jesus chose the most visible,
    conspicuous phenomenon in the natural world to describe the manner of
    His coming.

    Proposition: Jesus Christ warned His enemies that they would see Him
    coming in glory, and He compared His return to visible lightning across
    the sky.

    Summary

    John 14:19 taught that the unbelieving world would see Jesus no more
    after His death and burial, which was fulfilled when His
    post-resurrection appearances were granted only to His disciples.

    Revelation 1:7 affirms without qualification that at His final coming,
    "every eye will see him," specifically including those who rejected and pierced Him.

    Matthew 24:30 and Matthew 26:64 record the direct testimony of Jesus
    Christ that all the tribes of the earth and His earthly accusers will physically see Him coming on the clouds of heaven.

    Conclusion:
    Believing that Jesus will return visibly does not make Jesus a liar; it
    honors the words of Jesus Himself in Matthew 24:30 and Matthew 26:64. To wrench John 14:19 out of its context to deny the clear, unmistakable declarations of Revelation 1:7 and Matthew 24:30 is not handling the
    word of truth rightly. The Bible teaches with unmistakable clarity that
    the return of Jesus Christ will be bodily, personal, and visible to the
    entire world.
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    There is only one true and saving gospel: Christ died for our sins and
    rose from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Galatians 1:8-9). Every
    different gospel is deceptive, leading to conscious, eternal torment in
    the lake of fire (2 Thessalonians 1:8-9; John 3:36; Revelation 14:10-11; Revelation 19:20; Revelation 20:10-15). You will die in your sins if you
    deny that Jesus is God (John 8:58).

    The sacrificial death of Christ paid the penalty for our sins in full (Colossians 2:14), as demonstrated when God raised Him from the dead
    (Romans 1:4). This allows a righteous God to forgive our transgressions (Romans 3:26) and preserve us from the coming day of wrath (1
    Thessalonians 1:10). Eternal life is a free gift for everyone who trusts
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