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False Bible doctrines: Yeowww! Hellfire.

The Bible says God is LOVE. (1 John 4:8)

Love is defined as:

"Love is a profound feeling of strong affection, a deep romantic or
sexual attraction, and an active commitment to another person's
well-being." (AI; Merriam-Webster)

So God got His 'hammer and nails' out, and created the hellfire place.
So to those He places in hellfire, he must have a "strong affection"
and care about their "person's well-being".

BLEEP!! That is a contradiction. That is illogical. That is sadism at
its highest degree.

Yes, the churches' god does that. The Bible's God says that kind of
situation was not even thought about by the Bible's God:

-- New King James
Jeremiah 7:31 "And they have built the high places of Tophet, which
is in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their
daughters in the fire, which I did not command, nor did it come into
My heart.

To burn people alive in a fire, never made it to God's heart. But it
would have been if the Bible God created the torture chamber,
hellfire.

But guess who is favoring people to believe in a hellfire place to
degrade God's name?

The Lake of Fire is one place the churches list as a hellfire place.
While those with true Bible knowledge know the Lake of Fire is
symbolic. How so? Notice what is tossed in there:

Death and hell itself. (Rev 20:13) Can they be burned and tortured?

Also, that verse even tell us what the Lake of Fire is symbolic of:
The "second death." (not a second life)

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The Certainty Of Conscious, Eternal Torment For Those Who Reject The Gospel

1. The Nature of the Punishment

(1) Revelation 20:10rCo"and the devil who had deceived them was thrown
into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet
were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
(Revelation 20:10 ESV)

The punishment of the wicked is a state of continuous torment. This
torment is not annihilation or a cessation of being, but a conscious experience described as being tormented day and night. Furthermore, the duration of this torment is explicitly stated to be forever and ever.

(2) Matthew 25:41, 46rCo"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart
from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and
his angels.' ... And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." (Matthew 25:41, 46 ESV)

The fire into which the ungodly are cast is described by Christ Himself
as eternal. The punishment of those who reject the gospel lasts exactly
as long as the life granted to the righteous. If the life of the saved
is unending, the punishment of the lost is equally unending.

2. The Condition of the Lost in Gehenna and Hades

(1) Mark 9:43, 47-48rCo"And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It
is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to
Gehenna, to the unquenchable fire... And if your eye causes you to sin,
tear it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one
eye than with two eyes to be thrown into Gehenna, 'where their worm does
not die and the fire is not quenched.'" (Mark 9:43, 47-48 ESV)

Christ uses the word Gehenna to describe the final place of punishment.
He explicitly defines it as a place of unquenchable fire. The statement
that their worm does not die demonstrates that the consciousness of the individual remains intact and suffers continuously without end or
termination.

(2) Luke 16:23-24rCo"and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes
and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. And he called out,
'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of
his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this
flame.'" (Luke 16:23-24 ESV)

The word Hades refers to the immediate place of the dead prior to the
final judgment. Scripture teaches that immediately upon death, the
individual who rejects God is fully conscious, capable of feeling
extreme physical anguish, retaining memory, and experiencing the reality
of torment in flame.

3. The Degree and Finality of the Torment

(1) Revelation 14:11rCo"And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast
and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name." (Revelation
14:11 ESV)

The text specifies that those under judgment have no rest, day or night.
A state of non-existence or annihilation would mean an absence of
suffering and a form of rest from pain. Scripture explicitly denies this possibility by stating the suffering is unceasing and perpetual.

(2) Revelation 20:15rCo"And if anyone's name was not found written in the
book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:15 ESV)

The final destination for every individual who rejects the gospel of
Jesus Christ is the lake of fire. There are no exceptions, and there is
no escape once this final sentence is executed.

General Proposition: Scripture explicitly teaches in numerous plain
passages that those who reject the gospel will suffer conscious,
personal, unceasing torment in the lake of fire, Gehenna, forever and ever.
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Good News rCa

Jesus is God: christrose.news/Jesus-God.

The message that Christ died for our sins and rose from the dead is the
only true, saving gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Galatians 1:8-9). Any
other message is false and condemns people to conscious, eternal torment
in the lake of fire (2 Thessalonians 1:8-9; John 3:18-19; Revelation
14:11; Revelation 19:20; Revelation 20:14-15). Denying that Jesus is God guarantees you will die in your sins (John 8:24).

Christ bore our sins on the cross to clear our debt before God
(Colossians 2:14), and His resurrection stands as proof of that finished
work (Romans 1:4). Now, God justly forgives those who believe (Romans
3:26), granting escape from His impending judgment (1 Thessalonians
1:10). This mercy is a free gift accessible only through faith (Romans
6:23). If you believe this truth, call upon the Lord to save you today
(Romans 10:9-13):

How to be saved: christrose.news/salvation
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