• Where is the true religion?

    From zebrabible@zebrabible@proton.me to alt.bible,alt.bible.religion.christian on Thu Jun 25 12:07:36 2026
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    Where is the true religion?

    The Bible says there is only "one faith" (one true religion):

    4. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one
    hope of your calling;
    5. One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (KJV; Eph 4:4,5)

    But where do we find it? In all the churches? The churches contradict
    one another. For example, compare the Catholic religion with the
    Baptist religion. There is umpteen differences.

    For example, the Catholic religion has a pope, Purgatory, saints,
    priests, Cardinals, etc. The Baptists have none of those. But they get
    a higher salary and benefits.

    So then, where is the true religion?

    It's here in these last days. It is a fact that Mt 24:14 is definitely
    showing the true religion:

    -- King James
    Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all
    the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

    Would you not agree that it is describing the true religion and what
    it would be doing in the last days right before the end?

    So all we have to do now, is match a religion that is fulfilling that
    prophecy. Then you have found the true religion.

    So who is it?

    The one where God comes to you. You don't have to go find God. It is
    the one that comes to your door with the Kingdom message. It is the
    one that has been leaving at your door, the Kingdom message from a
    magazine, etc.

    Here is that Kingdom message. God will replace all governments with
    His government. (Kingdom) And will do away with all suffering and even
    death in this world. It is truly Good News. (gospel)

    That magazine is the Watchtower. All magazines say on the cover:

    ANNOUNCING JEHOVAH'S KINGDOM

    Yes, Jehovah's Witnesses have been preaching that theme for many
    decades. Thus soon the end will come. They have been persecuted in
    many lands for doing so on a world-wide scale.

    They can be found doing that in most lands and islands of the seas.
    Their preaching is global. (Over 200 lands)

    The Kuserow family of persecution.
    Go to: jw.org (6/25/2026)
    zebrabible@proton.me
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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.bible.religion.christian on Thu Jun 25 12:19:11 2026
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    1. The Kingdom of God

    Proposition: The Kingdom of God in the present age is a spiritual realm
    where believers are united under the lordship of Jesus Christ. While it
    will culminate in a literal earthly reign in the future, the gospel for
    this current era is the message of salvation from sin, not merely the
    promise of a future political government.

    "He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to
    the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the
    forgiveness of sins" (Colossians 1:13-14, ESV).

    The Scripture states that believers have already been transferred into
    the kingdom of the Son. This is a present, spiritual reality
    accomplished through redemption and the forgiveness of sins, not a
    future earthly event. We enter the kingdom now by trusting in Christ.

    "Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he
    answered them, The kingdom of God is not coming in ways that can be
    observed, nor will they say, Look, here it is! or There! for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you" (Luke 17:20-21, ESV).

    Jesus plainly taught that in its present form, the kingdom is not an observable, earthly government. It is a spiritual reality residing in
    the midst of His people.

    "For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit" (Romans 14:17, ESV).

    The present kingdom is defined by spiritual characteristics produced by
    the Holy Spirit, not by physical, political, or earthly conditions.

    "Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our
    Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever" (Revelation 11:15, ESV).

    The Bible clearly teaches there will be a future time when Christ
    physically rules over the earth. However, this future reign must not be confused with the gospel of grace for today. To substitute a message
    about a future earthly government for the cross of Christ is a false
    gospel. The true gospel brings people into the present, spiritual
    kingdom through the forgiveness of sins, which alone prepares them for
    His future, earthly reign.

    2. The True Gospel and Justification

    Proposition: The gospel is the message of the death, burial, and
    resurrection of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, not merely a political message about a future earthly government.

    "Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you...
    that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he
    was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures" (1 Corinthians 15:1-4, ESV).

    The word of God explicitly defines the gospel. It is the message that
    Christ died for our sins and was raised on the third day. Notice exactly
    what the Apostle Paul calls the gospel. It is not a message about
    replacing human governments to eliminate physical death, but rather a
    message about spiritual salvation and justification by grace through
    faith in His finished work.

    "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for
    salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the
    Greek" (Romans 1:16, ESV).

    The gospel is God's power unto salvation. It brings immediate salvation
    to the one who believes, not a future political restructuring.

    Proposition: Justification with God is by faith in Christ alone apart
    from works, otherwise Christ is of no value. Conversely, justification
    with men is demonstrated only by good works and the fruit of the Spirit.

    "Yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but
    through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus,
    in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified" (Galatians 2:16, ESV).

    "You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you
    have fallen away from grace" (Galatians 5:4, ESV).

    To be justified before God requires faith alone. If a person attempts to
    be justified before God by their works, they are severed from Christ,
    and His sacrifice is of no value to them.

    "Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his
    son Isaac on the altar? ... You see that a person is justified by works
    and not by faith alone" (James 2:21, 24, ESV).

    "By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit and so prove
    to be my disciples" (John 15:8, ESV).

    While God sees the heart and justifies by faith alone, men can only see
    our outward actions. Therefore, justification with men is demonstrated
    solely by good works and the visible fruit of the Spirit in our lives.

    3. The True Church

    Proposition: The biblical body of Christ is a spiritual organism
    composed of all who are regenerated by the Holy Spirit, not a modern organization defined by door-to-door magazine distribution.

    "For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one bodyrCoJews or Greeks,
    slaves or freerCoand all were made to drink of one Spirit" (1 Corinthians 12:13, ESV).

    The body of Christ, which is the true church, is formed by the Holy
    Spirit. Every true believer is baptized into this body by the Spirit. It
    is not an organization you join by distributing literature, but a
    spiritual body you are placed into by the regenerating work of God.

    "And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all
    things to the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills
    all in all" (Ephesians 1:22-23, ESV).

    The true church is the spiritual body of Jesus Christ. It is a living
    organism united in Him, purchased entirely by His blood.

    4. The Proclamation of the Gospel

    Proposition: The gospel of the grace of God has been bearing fruit in
    the whole world since the first century, and Matthew 24:14 is not an
    exclusive prophecy about a modern publishing campaign.

    "Of this you have heard before in the word of the truth, the gospel,
    which has come to you, as indeed in the whole world it is bearing fruit
    and increasingrCoas it also does among you, since the day you heard it and understood the grace of God in truth" (Colossians 1:5-6, ESV).

    The Apostle Paul states plainly that the gospel was already in the whole world, bearing fruit and increasing in the first century. The true
    universal church has been proclaiming this message through the power of
    the Holy Spirit for two thousand years. It is entirely false to claim
    that the global proclamation of the gospel only began recently through a specific human publishing entity.

    5. The Sole Mediator

    Proposition: Jesus Christ is the sole mediator between God and men. Individuals come directly to the Father through Him, not through any
    human institution, organization, or publishing entity.

    "For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men,
    the man Christ Jesus" (1 Timothy 2:5, ESV).

    This statement is absolutely clear. There is only one mediator between
    God and men. It is the man Christ Jesus. If there is only one mediator,
    no earthly organization, group of leaders, or human institution can
    stand between a person and God. God does not come to individuals through
    an organization arriving at their door; He comes to them exclusively
    through Jesus Christ.

    "Jesus said to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one
    comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6, ESV).

    Jesus Christ claims exclusive mediation. We come to the Father through
    Him, and Him alone. Any organization that implies it is the necessary
    channel to God is attempting to usurp the rightful, exclusive position
    of Jesus Christ.

    6. The Unity of the Faith

    Proposition: The biblical unity of the faith is maintained by the Holy
    Spirit among all true believers who hold to the headship of Christ,
    distinct from the forced uniformity of visible human organizations.

    "I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to walk in a manner
    worthy of the calling to which you have been called... eager to maintain
    the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body and one SpiritrCojust as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your callrCoone Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all" (Ephesians 4:1-6, ESV).

    The Scripture teaches a unity of the Spirit. It is a spiritual unity
    based on the foundational doctrines of salvation, such as one Lord, one
    faith, and one baptism. It is not a demand for an absolute lack of
    internal contradiction in secondary matters.

    "One person esteems one day as better than another, while another
    esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own
    mind... Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you
    despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of
    God" (Romans 14:5, 10, ESV).

    The Apostle Paul explicitly allows for differences of practice and
    opinion on secondary matters among true believers. Pointing to
    denominational differences on secondary issues does not invalidate the
    true, spiritual church. True religion is found in union with Christ, not
    in the absolute uniformity of a modern human organization.
    --
    Good News rCa

    Jesus is God: christrose.news/Jesus-God.

    The only true gospel that has power to save is that Christ died for our
    sins and rose from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Galatians 1:8-9).
    Every perverted gospel is false and drives souls to conscious, eternal
    torment in the lake of fire (2 Thessalonians 1:8-9; John 3:18;
    Revelation 14:11; Revelation 19:20; Revelation 20:11-15). If you deny
    that Jesus is God, you will die in your sins (John 8:24).

    Our debt to God was nailed to the cross where Christ died for our sins (Colossians 2:14), and God demonstrated this fact by raising Him from
    the grave (Romans 1:4). Now, God remains perfectly just while forgiving
    those who put their faith in Jesus (Romans 3:26) and sparing them from
    future wrath (1 Thessalonians 1:10). It is a free gift for everyone who believes (Romans 6:23). Trust in the Lord and call on His name to
    receive salvation (Romans 10:9-13):

    How to be saved: christrose.news/salvation
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  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.bible,alt.bible.religion.christian on Wed Jul 1 23:21:16 2026
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    zebrabible@proton.me wrote:

    Would you not agree that it is describing the true religion and what
    it would be doing in the last days right before the end?

    So all we have to do now, is match a religion that is fulfilling that prophecy. Then you have found the true religion.

    So who is it?

    The one where God comes to you. You don't have to go find God. It is
    the one that comes to your door with the Kingdom message. It is the
    one that has been leaving at your door, the Kingdom message from a
    magazine, etc.

    Mormons do door to door evangelism too. Does that make them
    The Other One True Religion? Or maybe JWs are the Second True
    Religion/

    Does Watchtower keep statistics on how many JWs have been shot
    on the porch by enraged day-sleepers? How bout the number of
    couples whose lovemaking was interrupted by that knock on the
    door? No wonder the birth rate is falling.
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