• Psalm 146:3-4: Earthly Plans or Conscious Existence?

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    Satan's Witnesses point to Psalm 146:3-4 as an anchor for the doctrine
    of soul sleep or total annihilation. They argue that if a manrCOs
    "thoughts perish" the moment his breath departs, he must necessarily
    cease to have any conscious existence. However, a closer look at the
    Hebrew grammar and the surrounding context reveals that this passage
    isn't a treatise on the nature of the soul, but a practical warning
    against trusting in the fleeting power of human rulers. When a prince
    dies, it is his earthly agendarConot his conscious beingrCothat comes to an abrupt end.

    Grammar

    To begin, "estonet" can mean "plans" or "thoughts".

    rCLPut not your trust in princes, in a son of man, in whom there is no salvation. When his breath departs, he returns to the earth; on that
    very day his plans perish.rCY (Psalm 146:3rCo4, ESV)

    rCLDonrCOt put your confidence in powerful people; there is no help for you there. When they breathe their last, they return to the earth, and all
    their plans die with them.rCY (Psalm 146:3rCo4, NLT)

    rCLPut not confidence in nobles, in a son of man, in whom there is no salvation. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that
    very day his purposes perish.rCY (Psalm 146:3rCo4, DARBY)

    rCLPut not your trust in princes, Nor in the son of man, in whom there is
    no help. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; In that very
    day his thoughts perish.rCY (Psalm 146:3rCo4, KJV 1900)

    Conclusion: "estonet" can be understood to mean "plans", "purposes" or "thoughts". We are not contractually obligated to interpret Psalm
    146:3-4 is meaning that when men die, their spirit and conscious
    existence ceases to exist. It may refer to their earthly plans and their ability to carry them out.

    Next, the word "perish" (avad) does not necessitate cessation of
    existence. It can carry mean to be lost or go astray.

    In the Hebrew Bible, the verb +E+++a+++o (avad) is frequently translated as "perish," "destroy," or "lose." However, its primary concrete meaning
    often denotes a change of state, location, or functionrCosuch as
    wandering, being scattered, or losing operational purposerCorather than annihilation or ceasing to exist.

    And the asses of Kish Saul's father were lost [avedu]. And Kish said to
    Saul his son, Take now one of the servants with thee, and arise, go seek
    the asses (1 Samuel 9:3, KJV).

    I have gone astray like a lost [oved] sheep; seek thy servant; for I do
    not forget thy commandments (Psalm 119:176, KJV).

    My people hath been lost [ovedot] sheep: their shepherds have caused
    them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they
    have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace (Jeremiah 50:6, KJV).

    The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which
    was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have
    ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that
    which was lost [ha-ovedet]; but with force and with cruelty have ye
    ruled them (Ezekiel 34:4, KJV).

    A time to get, and a time to lose [le-abbed]; a time to keep, and a time
    to cast away (Ecclesiastes 3:6, KJV).

    Based on the lexical usage of avad in the Hebrew Bible, the claim that
    Psalm 146:4 necessitates total non-existence or the permanent cessation
    of conscious thought relies on an incomplete definition of the verb. In
    Psalm 146:4, the text states that when a man dies, "in that very day his thoughts perish." The word used here for perish is a form of avad. As demonstrated in the preceding examples, avad routinely denotes a state
    of being lost, scattered, misplaced, or rendered non-functional relative
    to its original purpose, rather than necessitating cessation of
    conscious existence.

    Context

    What is Psalm 146:3-4 talking about? It's ultimately telling people not
    to put their trust in princes. That's the message. It's explaining why
    you should not trust in them. But why would someone trust in a prince?
    Would you trust a politician simply because he has conscious thoughts?
    That's not very convincing. Or would it be you trust them because they
    offer plans to save you? That sounds more reasonable. The context favors
    the understanding that people would trust them because they have plans
    or purposes (Darby) to save you.

    Conclusion

    The grammar allows and the context only makes sense if Psalm 146:3-4
    teaches men's earthly "plans" and "purposes" (their ability to save you)
    is what perishes when they die. It does not necessitate the
    understanding that their spirit and conscious existence ceases to exist.
    Such an interpretation contradicts clear New Testament revelation (e.g. Matthew 10:28).
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