• Holy Spirit: A Person, Not Just A Force

    From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.christnews on Fri May 8 19:17:42 2026
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    The Personality Of The Holy Spirit

    Personal Pronouns Are Used Of The Holy Spirit

    ""But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father,
    the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear
    witness about me." (John 15:26, ESV)

    ""When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the
    truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he
    hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to
    come." (John 16:13, ESV)

    Notice the repeated use of the personal pronoun "he" when Jesus speaks of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not an "it." He is a person.

    Proposition: Jesus Christ consistently used personal pronouns to describe the Holy Spirit.

    Personal Actions Are Ascribed To The Holy Spirit

    ""While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit
    said, 'Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have
    called them.'" (Acts 13:2, ESV)


    A mere force or influence does not speak. Furthermore, the Holy Spirit speaks using personal pronouns ("me" and "I") and exercises personal authority in calling men to ministry.

    ""But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my
    name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all
    that I have said to you." (John 14:26, ESV)

    The Holy Spirit teaches and reminds. A blind power cannot teach; only a person with intellect and wisdom can teach others.

    ""All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to
    each one individually as he wills." (1 Corinthians 12:11, ESV)

    The Holy Spirit makes choices. He has a will. He decides how spiritual gifts are distributed. An impersonal force, like electricity or gravity, has no will of its own.

    Proposition: The Holy Spirit performs actions that can only be performed by a conscious, intelligent person.

    The Holy Spirit Experiences Personal Emotions And Can Be Treated As A Person

    ""And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed
    for the day of redemption." (Ephesians 4:30, ESV)

    You cannot grieve an impersonal force. Grief is a personal emotion. The Holy Spirit loves, cares, and feels sorrow when believers sin.

    ""But Peter said, 'Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to
    the Holy Spirit and to keep back for yourself part of the proceeds of
    the land?'" (Acts 5:3, ESV)

    It is impossible to lie to a mere power. You can only lie to a person who has the capacity to hear and know the truth.

    Proposition: The Holy Spirit experiences grief and can be lied to, which is only possible if He is a distinct person.

    The Holy Spirit Is Coupled With The Father And The Son As An Equal

    ""Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in
    the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
    (Matthew 28:19, ESV)

    ""The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the
    fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." (2 Corinthians 13:14,
    ESV)

    In these passages, the Holy Spirit is placed on the exact same level as God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son. It would be entirely illogical to baptize believers in the name of two distinct persons and one impersonal energy. He is a person equal with the Father and the Son.

    Proposition: The Holy Spirit is grouped with the Father and the Son in a way that would be impossible for any mere force or inanimate object.

    Summary: By the use of personal pronouns, by the ascription of personal actions like teaching and speaking, by His capacity to feel grief and be lied to, and by His equal standing with the Father and the Son, God in His Word distinctly proclaims that the Holy Spirit is a living Person.
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  • From zebrabible@zebrabible@proton.me to alt.bible,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.christnews on Sat May 9 09:51:59 2026
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    On Fri, 08 May 2026 19:17:42 -0500, Christ Rose
    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

    The Personality Of The Holy Spirit

    Personal Pronouns Are Used Of The Holy Spirit

    ""But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father,
    the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear
    witness about me." (John 15:26, ESV)

    ""When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the
    truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he
    hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to
    come." (John 16:13, ESV)

    Notice the repeated use of the personal pronoun "he" when Jesus speaks of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not an "it." He is a person.

    -- Revised Standard
    John 1:32 And John bore witness, "I saw the Spirit descend as a dove
    from heaven, and it remained on him.

    And are you sure you want to go there? It was the Holy Spirit which
    impregnated Mary:

    -- New Revised Standard with Apocrypha
    Matthew 1:20 But just when he had resolved to do this, an angel of the
    Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, "Joseph, son of David, do
    not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for the child conceived in
    her is from the Holy Spirit.

    The Holy Spirit as a person, you know what that is called, don't you?


    Proposition: Jesus Christ consistently used personal pronouns to describe the Holy Spirit.

    Of course, like wisdom, it was personified.


    Personal Actions Are Ascribed To The Holy Spirit

    ""While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit
    said, 'Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have
    called them.'" (Acts 13:2, ESV)


    Yes, It was personified.

    A mere force or influence does not speak. Furthermore, the Holy Spirit speaks using personal pronouns ("me" and "I") and exercises personal authority in calling men to ministry.

    ""But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my
    name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all
    that I have said to you." (John 14:26, ESV)

    Yes, it is personified


    The Holy Spirit teaches and reminds. A blind power cannot teach; only a person with intellect and wisdom can teach others.

    ""All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to
    each one individually as he wills." (1 Corinthians 12:11, ESV)

    Yes, it is personified


    The Holy Spirit makes choices. He has a will. He decides how spiritual gifts are distributed. An impersonal force, like electricity or gravity, has no will of its own.

    Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.



    Proposition: The Holy Spirit performs actions that can only be performed by a conscious, intelligent person.

    Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.


    The Holy Spirit Experiences Personal Emotions And Can Be Treated As A Person

    ""And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed
    for the day of redemption." (Ephesians 4:30, ESV)

    Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.


    You cannot grieve an impersonal force. Grief is a personal emotion. The Holy Spirit loves, cares, and feels sorrow when believers sin.

    ""But Peter said, 'Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to
    the Holy Spirit and to keep back for yourself part of the proceeds of
    the land?'" (Acts 5:3, ESV)

    Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.


    It is impossible to lie to a mere power. You can only lie to a person who has the capacity to hear and know the truth.

    Proposition: The Holy Spirit experiences grief and can be lied to, which is only possible if He is a distinct person.

    Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.


    The Holy Spirit Is Coupled With The Father And The Son As An Equal

    ""Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in
    the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
    (Matthew 28:19, ESV)

    That Scripture says nothing about being equal to God and Jesus. Read
    it again.


    ""The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the
    fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." (2 Corinthians 13:14,
    ESV)

    In these passages, the Holy Spirit is placed on the exact same level as God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son. It would be entirely illogical to baptize believers in the name of two distinct persons and one impersonal energy. He is a person equal with the Father and the Son.

    Only in your mind. Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.


    Proposition: The Holy Spirit is grouped with the Father and the Son in a way that would be impossible for any mere force or inanimate object.

    Summary: By the use of personal pronouns, by the ascription of personal actions like teaching and speaking, by His capacity to feel grief and be lied to, and by His equal standing with the Father and the Son, God in His Word distinctly proclaims that the Holy Spirit is a living Person.

    Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.

    Also, when many people are gathered together, the Holy Spirit can
    enter each one of them. Can a person chop himself up and distribute
    pieces of him to each individual present?

    -- New King James
    Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to
    speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

    Summary, the Holy Spirit is God's active force. And it has been
    personified like wisdom is.

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.christnews on Sat May 9 09:38:04 2026
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    The True Nature And Personality Of The Holy Spirit

    The assertion that the Holy Spirit is merely an "active force" that is simply "personified" like wisdom, or that He is an "it" because He can fill many people, contradicts the plain statements of Scripture. When we look at exactly what the Bible says, we find actions, attributes, and titles that can only belong to a distinct, living, divine Person.

    I. The Holy Spirit Possesses Independent Intelligence And Will

    A poetic personification does not make actual, sovereign decisions or possess comprehensive knowledge of the divine mind.

    "these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God. For who knows a person's thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God." (1 Corinthians 2:10-11, ESV)

    Proposition: The Holy Spirit possesses independent intelligence and comprehends the very thoughts of God. A blind force does not comprehend or search.

    "All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills." (1 Corinthians 12:11, ESV)

    Proposition: The Holy Spirit has a sovereign will. He makes individual choices regarding who receives specific spiritual gifts. A mere force does not have a will.

    II. Jesus Christ Intentionally Used Masculine Pronouns For The Spirit

    The argument that the Spirit is an "it" based on John 1:32 ignores the explicit words of Jesus. In Greek, the word for "spirit" (pneuma) is grammatically neuter, which is why some literal translations render the grammatical pronoun as "it." However, when Jesus spoke of the Holy Spirit, He deliberately overrode the rules of Greek grammar to emphasize that the Spirit is a Person.

    "But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me." (John 15:26, ESV)

    Proposition: Jesus Christ referred to the Holy Spirit as "He" using the masculine Greek pronoun "ekeinos." Jesus did not consider the Holy Spirit to be an "it" or an impersonal force.

    III. The Holy Spirit Is Omnipresent, Not A Finite Physical Body

    The objection that a person cannot be "chopped up and distributed" among many believers completely misunderstands the nature of God. The Holy Spirit is not a physical human being limited by a physical body; He is the omnipresent God.

    "Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there! If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there!" (Psalm 139:7-8, ESV)

    "Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the LORD. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the LORD." (Jeremiah 23:24, ESV)

    Proposition: Just as God the Father fills heaven and earth without being "chopped up," the Holy Spirit can dwell in and fill the hearts of millions of believers simultaneously because He is omnipresent. To be filled with the Spirit is to be yielded to His infinite, undivided presence.

    IV. The Holy Spirit Is Explicitly Identified As God

    "But Peter said, Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back for yourself part of the proceeds of the land? ... You have not lied to man but to God." (Acts 5:3-4, ESV)

    Proposition: Lying to the Holy Spirit is explicitly defined by the Apostle Peter as lying to God. The Holy Spirit is God.

    V. The Holy Spirit Exercises The Divine Power Of Creation

    The objection regarding the Holy Spirit conceiving Christ in the womb of Mary fails to recognize the difference between human reproduction and divine creation.

    "And the angel answered her, The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God." (Luke 1:35, ESV)

    Proposition: The Holy Spirit exercises the direct power of the Most High to create life. This was a miraculous, divine act of creation in the virgin's womb, demonstrating His infinite power as God.

    Summary: To call the Holy Spirit an "active force" or a mere "personification" is to deny the plain words of Jesus Christ and the apostles. The Bible declares that the Holy Spirit has a will, comprehends the deep things of God, is explicitly called God, and is omnipresent.
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    This means God can now remain right, while forgiving our sins (Romans 3:26) and delivering us from His coming wrath (1 Thessalonians 1:10). It's a free gift for those who believe in Christ (Romans 6:23).

    If you believe, call on the Lord to save you (Romans 10:9-13).

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  • From zebrabible@zebrabible@proton.me to alt.bible,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.christnews on Sun May 10 11:46:05 2026
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    On Sat, 09 May 2026 09:51:59 -0400, zebrabible@proton.me wrote:

    On Fri, 08 May 2026 19:17:42 -0500, Christ Rose
    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

    The Personality Of The Holy Spirit

    Personal Pronouns Are Used Of The Holy Spirit

    ""But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father,
    the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear
    witness about me." (John 15:26, ESV)

    Remember the HS is personified


    ""When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the
    truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he
    hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to
    come." (John 16:13, ESV)

    Notice the repeated use of the personal pronoun "he" when Jesus speaks of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not an "it." He is a person.

    Remember the HS is personified


    -- Revised Standard
    John 1:32 And John bore witness, "I saw the Spirit descend as a dove
    from heaven, and it remained on him.

    John called the HS an "IT".

    And are you sure you want to go there? It was the Holy Spirit which >impregnated Mary:

    -- New Revised Standard with Apocrypha
    Matthew 1:20 But just when he had resolved to do this, an angel of the
    Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, "Joseph, son of David, do
    not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for the child conceived in
    her is from the Holy Spirit.

    The Holy Spirit as a person, you know what that is called, don't you?

    Yes, false information.


    Proposition: Jesus Christ consistently used personal pronouns to describe the Holy Spirit.

    Of course, like wisdom, it was personified.

    Yes, the HS (God's active force)


    Personal Actions Are Ascribed To The Holy Spirit

    ""While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit
    said, 'Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have
    called them.'" (Acts 13:2, ESV)


    Yes, It was personified.

    A mere force or influence does not speak. Furthermore, the Holy Spirit speaks using personal pronouns ("me" and "I") and exercises personal authority in calling men to ministry.

    All of that came from God.


    ""But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my
    name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all
    that I have said to you." (John 14:26, ESV)

    Yes, it is personified


    The Holy Spirit teaches and reminds. A blind power cannot teach; only a person with intellect and wisdom can teach others.

    Since it is from God, it has high intelligence and superior wisdom.


    ""All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to
    each one individually as he wills." (1 Corinthians 12:11, ESV)

    Yes, it is personified

    That "same spirit" is God. (John 4:23,24)


    The Holy Spirit makes choices. He has a will. He decides how spiritual gifts are distributed. An impersonal force, like electricity or gravity, has no will of its own.

    Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.



    Proposition: The Holy Spirit performs actions that can only be performed by a conscious, intelligent person.

    Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.


    The Holy Spirit Experiences Personal Emotions And Can Be Treated As A Person >>
    ""And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed
    for the day of redemption." (Ephesians 4:30, ESV)

    Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.


    You cannot grieve an impersonal force. Grief is a personal emotion. The Holy Spirit loves, cares, and feels sorrow when believers sin.

    ""But Peter said, 'Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to
    the Holy Spirit and to keep back for yourself part of the proceeds of
    the land?'" (Acts 5:3, ESV)

    Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.


    It is impossible to lie to a mere power. You can only lie to a person who has the capacity to hear and know the truth.

    Proposition: The Holy Spirit experiences grief and can be lied to, which is only possible if He is a distinct person.

    Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.


    The Holy Spirit Is Coupled With The Father And The Son As An Equal

    ""Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in
    the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
    (Matthew 28:19, ESV)

    That Scripture says nothing about being equal to God and Jesus. Read
    it again.


    ""The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the
    fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." (2 Corinthians 13:14,
    ESV)

    In these passages, the Holy Spirit is placed on the exact same level as God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son. It would be entirely illogical to baptize believers in the name of two distinct persons and one impersonal energy. He is a person equal with the Father and the Son.

    Only in your mind. Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.


    Proposition: The Holy Spirit is grouped with the Father and the Son in a way that would be impossible for any mere force or inanimate object.

    Summary: By the use of personal pronouns, by the ascription of personal actions like teaching and speaking, by His capacity to feel grief and be lied to, and by His equal standing with the Father and the Son, God in His Word distinctly proclaims that the Holy Spirit is a living Person.

    Yes, it is personified like wisdom is.

    Also, when many people are gathered together, the Holy Spirit can
    enter each one of them. Can a person chop himself up and distribute
    pieces of him to each individual present?

    -- New King James
    Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to
    speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

    Summary, the Holy Spirit is God's active force. And it has been
    personified like wisdom is.

    "Meeting MankindAs Energy NeedsuWhat the Bible Says
    Learn how GodAs Kingdom will address rising energy demands, and find >practical tips to help you reduce your energy use today.
    Learn More"
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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.christnews on Mon May 11 11:31:47 2026
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    See 1778285862073.24524@christrose.news
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    https://www.christrose.news/Jesus-God

    Good News rCa

    Christ's death on a cross paid the debt we owe God for our sins (Colossians 2:14). The proof is God raised Him from the dead (Romans 1:4).

    This means God can now remain right, while forgiving our sins (Romans 3:26) and delivering us from His coming wrath (1 Thessalonians 1:10). It's a free gift for those who believe in Christ (Romans 6:23).

    If you believe, call on the Lord to save you (Romans 10:9-13).

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  • From zebrabible@zebrabible@proton.me to alt.bible,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.christnews on Wed May 13 14:59:11 2026
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    On Mon, 11 May 2026 11:31:47 -0500, Christ Rose

    Re: Holy Spirit: A Person, Not Just A Force

    Then explain:

    -- International English
    Matthew 1:20 He was thinking deeply upon these things when, suddenly,
    an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, ``Joseph,
    descendant of David, don't be afraid to take Mary to be your wife. The
    baby inside her comes from the Holy Spirit.

    If the Holy Spirit is a person, what's it called when an unmarried
    person impregnates another unmarried person?

    Are you sure you still want to call the HS a person?

    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

    See 1778285862073.24524@christrose.news

    --
    Jesus is God

    Then explain:

    -- King James
    1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every
    man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of
    Christ is God.

    Also,

    - King James
    John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come
    again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go
    unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

    And,

    -- Revised Standard
    Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the
    angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

    Still not convinced?

    Jesus died and had to be in the ground for 3 days and nights. (Mt
    12:40)

    God never died, but always existed:

    -- New King James
    Psalms 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever You had
    formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting,
    You are God.

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    Good News a

    Christ's death on a cross paid the debt we owe God for our sins (Colossians 2:14). The proof is God raised Him from the dead (Romans 1:4).

    This means God can now remain right, while forgiving our sins (Romans 3:26) and delivering us from His coming wrath (1 Thessalonians 1:10). It's a free gift for those who believe in Christ (Romans 6:23).

    If you believe, call on the Lord to save you (Romans 10:9-13).

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.christnews on Wed May 13 14:51:34 2026
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    ========================================
    Wed, 13 May 2026 13:59:11 -0500,
    <6is80l5eg75llvphdh1v3vfuanb5n67p48@4ax.com>
    Satan's Witness (SW) zebrabible@proton.me wrote: ========================================

    On Mon, 11 May 2026 11:31:47 -0500, Christ RoseRe: Holy Spirit: A Person, Not Just A Force

    Then explain:-- International EnglishMatthew 1:20 He was thinking deeply upon these things when, suddenly, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, ``Joseph, descendant of David, don't be afraid to take Mary to be your wife. The baby inside her comes from the Holy Spirit.

    If the Holy Spirit is a person, what's it called when an unmarried person impregnates another unmarried person?Are you sure you still want to call the HS a person?

    Your sick, twisted, carnal, Satanic lies contradict both what the Bible and you claim.

    To begin, whether by a "force" of God (as you claim), or the person of God the Holy Spirit, nothing in the text, or any other Bible reference, says or necessitates that a sexual union has to occur for God to create human life. That would be like saying God had to have sex with dirt to create Adam.

    Secondly, the idea that God (a person) using his "force" (as you claim) on Mary to cause her to conceive would be perfectly holy, but that if the Holy Spirit (a person) uses His power to make her conceive, it must be fornication, is a self-evident, self-contradiction.

    You are a sick, satanically manipulated liar.
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    Good News rCa

    Christ's death on a cross paid the debt we owe God for our sins (Colossians 2:14). The proof is God raised Him from the dead (Romans 1:4).

    This means God can now remain right, while forgiving our sins (Romans 3:26) and delivering us from His coming wrath (1 Thessalonians 1:10). It's a free gift for those who believe in Christ (Romans 6:23).

    If you believe, call on the Lord to save you (Romans 10:9-13).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.christnews on Wed May 13 15:19:54 2026
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    Wed, 13 May 2026 13:59:11 -0500,
    <6is80l5eg75llvphdh1v3vfuanb5n67p48@4ax.com>
    Satan's Witness (SW) zebrabible@proton.me wrote: ========================================

    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:See 1778285862073.24524@christrose.news--Jesus is God

    Then explain:-- King James1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

    You keep repeating the same refuted lies over and over. You seek to confuse role and function with being.

    Women are equal as beings with men, but are voluntarily submissive in role and function (Galatians 3; Ephesians 5).

    Christ is equal to God as a being, but voluntarily submissive in role and function (Philippians 2).

    The implication of your lies would be that women can't be human beings because they submit to their husbands. Regardless of how you carry on with your efforts to brain-wash, you remain a stupid, refuted liar.

    Also,-King JamesJohn 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

    Idem. Greater in role and function, not in essence of being.

    And,-- Revised StandardMatthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

    Still not convinced?

    Idem. Philippians 2 shows He emptied Himself of His God prerogatives to take the form of a servant.

    Jesus died and had to be in the ground for 3 days and nights. (Mt 12:40) God never died, but always existed:
    -- New King JamesPsalms 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever You had formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.

    Jesus is both God and man. His body died, not His God nature. Now, wait two weeks, then come back and repeat the same refuted lies, as if they'll be really convincing the next time.
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    Christ's death on a cross paid the debt we owe God for our sins (Colossians 2:14). The proof is God raised Him from the dead (Romans 1:4).

    This means God can now remain right, while forgiving our sins (Romans 3:26) and delivering us from His coming wrath (1 Thessalonians 1:10). It's a free gift for those who believe in Christ (Romans 6:23).

    If you believe, call on the Lord to save you (Romans 10:9-13).

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