• Demonic posession

    From zebrabible@zebrabible@proton.me to alt.bible,alt.bible.religion.christian on Fri May 1 08:17:01 2026
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    Demonic possession.

    In Jesus day, many people were demon possessed. When they saw a person
    acting weird, in many cases they thought the person was possessed.

    But what about today? Many demon possessed people are catoganizd with
    medical terms, such as Bipolar and scitzofrenia, etc. Since the
    'mentally ill' persons end up in mental institutions, where
    over-crowding happens, there could be a lot of possessing today going
    on.

    In Jesus' day, he and his disciples, would expell the possessed people
    that they met. But they are not around today. How does one perform an
    'exocism' today?

    Call the Catholic Church? Or any church? Can Satan expel Satan? The
    demons are not morons. They fake being expelled to make people think
    the church that was doing it, is the true religion.

    But if they really expelled it, wouldn't that show them to be approved
    by God?

    Not necessarily. Notice:

    22. "Many will say to Me in that day, `Lord, Lord, have we not
    prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many
    wonders in Your name?'
    23. "And then I will declare to them, `I never knew you; depart from
    Me, you who practice lawlessness!' (Mt 7:22,23; NKJV)

    So expelling demons can take place by 'lawless ones' also.

    Can the true religion of today really expel demons?
    There is no 'exorcism' manual for Jehovah's Witnesses. If they
    themselves, or a person they run across, appears to be possessed, then
    the Bible says if you refuse the Devil, he will flee from that person.
    (James 4:7)

    Of course, they can't be practicing lawlessness as Mt chapter 7 shows.
    But if Satan expels Satan, what do they gain?
    They hope to gain that false religion, and cleavorly misguide otheers
    to think it is the true religion. They always try to downgrade the
    true religion. But their time is short. (Rev 12:12)


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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.bible.religion.christian on Fri May 1 10:55:30 2026
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    The lie that Satan's Witnesses promote here, is the implication that
    they somehow show themselves to be the true people of God and other
    churches to be false, simply because they didn't develop a manual for
    how to perform exorcisms.

    Meanwhile, no church I have ever attended has claimed the ability to or written a manual on how to cast out demons. Spiritual warfare, for the believer, is explained in Ephesians 6. It says he should put on the
    armor of God and pray. When it says to resist the devil in James, it
    clarifies that he will flee from "you", not from someone else. And
    that's not talking about a case of demon possession, but temptation. For
    the believer, the Holy Spirit possesses and seals him till the day of redemption (Ephesians 1:11-14).
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    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

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  • From zebrabible@zebrabible@proton.me to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.bible.religion.christian on Fri May 1 13:29:50 2026
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    On Fri, 1 May 2026 10:55:30 -0500, Christ Rose
    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

    The lie that Satan's Witnesses promote here, is the implication that
    they somehow show themselves to be the true people of God and other
    churches to be false, simply because they didn't develop a manual for
    how to perform exorcisms.

    What?

    Meanwhile, no church I have ever attended has claimed the ability to or >written a manual on how to cast out demons.

    Then you have not been to the Catholic Church.
    Hey, it's not me who decides what religions of Christendom are false.
    They do it themselves by their works.

    For example, They have removed the greatest name in all the universe
    from their Bibles. They didn't even keep in the abbreviated
    Tetragrammaton. They did that around 7000 times. By their tinkering
    with the Scriptures, they even made God out to be a liar. Notice:

    - King James
    Isaiah 42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not
    give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

    ESV
    I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my
    praise to carved idols.

    "LORD" IS A TITLE, NOT A NAME. Thus they shamefully show God lied
    here.

    Here are more accurate translations:

    (Isaiah 42:8) I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one
    else, Nor my praise to graven images. (NWT)

    -- American Standard
    Isaiah 42:8 I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not
    give to another, neither my praise unto graven images.

    Spiritual warfare, for the
    believer, is explained in Ephesians 6. It says he should put on the
    armor of God and pray. When it says to resist the devil in James, it >clarifies that he will flee from "you", not from someone else. And
    that's not talking about a case of demon possession, but temptation. For
    the believer, the Holy Spirit possesses and seals him till the day of >redemption (Ephesians 1:11-14).

    It means they will flee in ALL circumstances if they are following all
    of God's commandments. (see Mt 7:21-23)


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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.bible.religion.christian on Fri May 1 12:35:19 2026
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    Fri, 01 May 2026 08:17:01 -0400
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    Satan's Witness (SW) <zebrabible@proton.me> wrote: ========================================

    Can the true religion of today really expel demons?
    There is no 'exorcism' manual for Jehovah's Witnesses.


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    Fri, 01 May 2026 13:29:50 -0400
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    Satan's Witness (SW) <zebrabible@proton.me> wrote: ========================================
    On Fri, 1 May 2026 10:55:30 -0500, Christ Rose
    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

    The lie that Satan's Witnesses promote here, is the implication that
    they somehow show themselves to be the true people of God and other
    churches to be false, simply because they didn't develop a manual for
    how to perform exorcisms.


    What?

    Do you ask because you don't remember what you wrote, or because you're embarrassed by it?
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.bible.religion.christian on Fri May 1 14:23:08 2026
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    Fri, 1 May 2026 12:29:50 -0500,
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    Satan's Witness (SW) zebrabible@proton.me wrote: ========================================

    Tetragrammaton. They did that around 7000 times.

    You must be referring to the Satan's Witness, NWT heresy Bible. The tetragrammaton is YHWH, not "Jehovah". The Holy Spirit inspired apostles used "Kurios" to translate YHWH, and applied that name to both Jesus and the Father. So yes, "Lord" (small-caps) IS the inspired translation of YHWH. "Jehovah" is not.
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    Christ's death on a cross paid the debt we owe God for our sins (Colossians 2:14). The proof is God raised Him from the dead (Romans 1:4).

    This means God can now remain right, while forgiving our sins (Romans 3:26) and delivering us from His coming wrath (1 Thessalonians 1:10). It's a free gift for those who believe in Christ (Romans 6:23).

    If you believe, call on the Lord to save you (Romans 10:9-13).

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.bible.religion.christian on Fri May 1 14:30:50 2026
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    Fri, 1 May 2026 12:29:50 -0500,
    <hfl9vkpvkb9p9fjed6jcgkg294oq9ed17b@4ax.com>
    Satan's Witness (SW) zebrabible@proton.me wrote: ========================================

    I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols."LORD" IS A TITLE, NOT A NAME

    rCo Thus, "Lord", not "Jehovah" is the inspired translation of YHWH. Your
    NWT heresy Bible gets hat wrong 7000 times.

    rCo "Lord" is applied to both Christ and the Father, but there's only one
    God. One God, three persons are God.
    --
    Jesus is God

    https://www.christrose.news/Jesus-God

    Good News rCa

    Christ's death on a cross paid the debt we owe God for our sins (Colossians 2:14). The proof is God raised Him from the dead (Romans 1:4).

    This means God can now remain right, while forgiving our sins (Romans 3:26) and delivering us from His coming wrath (1 Thessalonians 1:10). It's a free gift for those who believe in Christ (Romans 6:23).

    If you believe, call on the Lord to save you (Romans 10:9-13).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.bible.religion.christian on Fri May 1 19:29:28 2026
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    Fri, 1 May 2026 12:29:50 -0500,
    <hfl9vkpvkb9p9fjed6jcgkg294oq9ed17b@4ax.com>
    Satan's Witness (SW) zebrabible@proton.me wrote: ========================================

    I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols."LORD" IS A TITLE, NOT A NAME.

    Bible: "I am the Lord; that is my NAME..."

    SW: "LORD" IS A TITLE, NOT A NAME.
    --
    Jesus is God

    https://www.christrose.news/Jesus-God

    Good News rCa

    Christ's death on a cross paid the debt we owe God for our sins (Colossians 2:14). The proof is God raised Him from the dead (Romans 1:4).

    This means God can now remain right, while forgiving our sins (Romans 3:26) and delivering us from His coming wrath (1 Thessalonians 1:10). It's a free gift for those who believe in Christ (Romans 6:23).

    If you believe, call on the Lord to save you (Romans 10:9-13).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From zebrabible@zebrabible@proton.me to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.bible.religion.christian on Thu May 7 15:47:58 2026
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    On Fri, 01 May 2026 14:30:50 -0500, Christ Rose
    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

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    Fri, 1 May 2026 12:29:50 -0500,
    <hfl9vkpvkb9p9fjed6jcgkg294oq9ed17b@4ax.com>
    Satan's Witness (SW) zebrabible@proton.me wrote:
    ========================================

    I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols."LORD" IS A TITLE, NOT A NAME

    o Thus, "Lord", not "Jehovah" is the inspired translation of YHWH. Your
    NWT heresy Bible gets hat wrong 7000 times.

    I think you mean "(t)hat".

    At least it attempts to give our God a name. Your Bible INSERTS a word
    not found in those verses. Thus they inserted it around 7000 times.

    And more Bibles than the NWT use "Jehovah" (or Yahweh) as God's name.
    Notice. Ps 83:18:

    NWT= Jehovah
    KJV= Jehovah
    ASV= Jehovah
    Living Bible= Jehovah
    NJB= Yahweh
    Young's Bible= Jehovah
    Darby's Bible= Jehovah
    Websters Bible= Jehovah
    BRG= Jehovah
    ERV= Yahweh
    GNV= Jehovah
    HCSB= Yahweh
    AKJB= Jehovah
    LSB= Jehovah
    LEB= Yahweh
    TLB= Jehovah
    NOG= Yahweh
    RGT= Jehovah
    WEB= Yahweh


    o "Lord" is applied to both Christ and the Father, but there's only one
    God. One God, three persons are God.

    You are one person, three persons are you.

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