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Has anyone moved from Windows to Linux??

Just wondering...

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On 04 May 2024, IB Joe said the following...

Has anyone moved from Windows to Linux??

Just wondering...

i did briefly. just make sure you find everywhere where the paths are referenced and change them to their linux equivalent. i installed a second copy
of mystic and just copied the binaries over to the mystic folder.

i didn't do anything with doors because it was temporary (ended up replacing the bbs machine)

Alex

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On 04 May 2024, Alexander Grotewohl said the following...

On 04 May 2024, IB Joe said the following...

Has anyone moved from Windows to Linux??

Just wondering...

i did briefly. just make sure you find everywhere where the paths are referenced and change them to their linux equivalent. i installed a
second copy of mystic and just copied the binaries over to the mystic folder.

i didn't do anything with doors because it was temporary (ended up replacing the bbs machine)

Alex

Thanx

I was thinking things along that line. Making sure file names and whatnot... anyway, I'll take a stab at it in a few days.

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Also make sure your permissions are set right. Another item is in I think it is
the event manager there is an option to use ./ make sure you set that to yes. Otherwise, your events will not run. I did the conversion about a year or so ago, and other then some issues with cryptlib (the fix is now in the wiki) and permissions issues, it went off well. There is also a conversion section I believe on the wiki...

Al

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Has anyone moved from Windows to Linux??

Not myself, been running my BBS off linux since 2008.

What are you looking for? What the process would look like?

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On 05 May 2024, Al DeRosa said the following...

Also make sure your permissions are set right. Another item is in I
think it is the event manager there is an option to use ./ make sure you set that to yes. Otherwise, your events will not run. I did the
conversion about a year or so ago, and other then some issues with cryptlib (the fix is now in the wiki) and permissions issues, it went
off well. There is also a conversion section I believe on the wiki...

Al

I've already started .... I'll start the migration soon. Linux is not the easiest to work with... I'm a novice at best and I want to force myself into learning.

Anyway, thanx for the input.

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On 05 May 2024, Mike said the following...

Has anyone moved from Windows to Linux??

Not myself, been running my BBS off linux since 2008.

What are you looking for? What the process would look like?

I want to know Linux more than I do. What a process... 15 or 20 minutes to install Oracle' VM program... as far as I know that is up and running. Before I get to excited I need to install RealVNC so that I can access the BBS machine
from afar.

Anyway, I've been given some ideas... I will take the plunge soon!!!

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I want to know Linux more than I do. What a process... 15 or 20 minutes to install Oracle' VM program... as far as I know that is up and
running. Before I get to excited I need to install RealVNC so that I
can access the BBS machine from afar.

Anyway, I've been given some ideas... I will take the plunge soon!!!

VNC is a bit fincky, but you can also use xrdp too.

My linux servers consist of only the shell. Don't use the GUI. I may have one that has a GUI because I was doing some programming under it, otherwise not needed.

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On 05 May 2024, Mike said the following...

Anyway, I've been given some ideas... I will take the plunge soon!!

VNC is a bit fincky, but you can also use xrdp too.

My linux servers consist of only the shell. Don't use the GUI. I may
have one that has a GUI because I was doing some programming under it, otherwise not needed.

Sorry, the Linux GUI is the only thing that's going to save me on this project.


If I understand things things correctly I have XRDP on my Linux machine and I use Microsoft's Remote Desktop App to connect.

Is this so??

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On 05 May 2024, IB Joe said the following...

I've already started .... I'll start the migration soon. Linux is not
the easiest to work with... I'm a novice at best and I want to force myself into learning.

Good luck, you are going to learn so much.. I started with Linux back in 2020, just touching on it a bit here and there. Using the easiest of them all Ubuntu.
4 years later I am no way an expert or even a novice. But I love Linux to the point where every computer I own except for my main computer is now running Debian 12.. My main computer will be changing over to Debian in a few weeks, the stuff I can't get running in Linux but need from Windows will all be in a Virtual Machine on my Proxmox server of Windows 11.. Everything else is icing.

Just remember one thing, Google is your best friend with Linux...

AL

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On 05 May 2024, IB Joe said the following...

running. Before I get to excited I need to install RealVNC so that I
can access the BBS machine from afar.

RealVNC installs just fine on it. :) I run it on a couple of my VM's to reboot if the BBS crashes..

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Sorry, the Linux GUI is the only thing that's going to save me on this project.

If I understand things things correctly I have XRDP on my Linux machine and I use Microsoft's Remote Desktop App to connect.

Is this so??

Correct. I've only setup XRDP when using mate as the desktop, but I'm sure their is guides that show how to tie it into desktop enviroments like Gnome.

XVNC works just fine too. But something to keep in mind that newer versions of Gnome have built in functions. You just turn it on in the settings menu.

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On 05 May 2024, Al DeRosa said the following...

Good luck, you are going to learn so much.. I started with Linux back in 2020, just touching on it a bit here and there. Using the easiest of
them all Ubuntu. 4 years later I am no way an expert or even a novice.
But I love Linux to the point where every computer I own except for my main computer is now running Debian 12.. My main computer will be
changing over to Debian in a few weeks, the stuff I can't get running in Linux but need from Windows will all be in a Virtual Machine on my
Proxmox server of Windows 11.. Everything else is icing.

Just remember one thing, Google is your best friend with Linux...

AL

Regrets not doing this sooner... back in the 90's ... I went with Ubuntu because I think it's easier to uses. I know someone who looks down his nose to
Ubuntu users, he prefers Mint.


Anyway, thanx!!!

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By: Al DeRosa to All on Sun May 05 2024 19:03:50

RealVNC installs just fine on it. :) I run it on a couple of my VM's to reboot if the BBS crashes..

Yupper. I use RealVNC here to access remotely. Windows > Linux and back again and it works just dandy.



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On 05 May 2024, IB Joe said the following...

Regrets not doing this sooner... back in the 90's ... I went with Ubuntu because I think it's easier to uses. I know someone who looks down his nose to Ubuntu users, he prefers Mint.

LOL Me too, I played with it back in the day but never went forward.. Ubuntu is
great for beginners but so is Mint. ;)

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LOL Me too, I played with it back in the day but never went forward.. Ubuntu is great for beginners but so is Mint. ;)

I'm a former slackware and gentoo user. I use mainly Debian for my servers and and PopOS as my desktop.

Why, because most packages in the wild have a .deb build.

Also, I like to focus on stable releases vs rolling releases. Just don't have the energy to troubleshoot rolling releases. Back in my day, sure..... No kids,
no responsiblities, etc....

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Mike wrote to Al DeRosa <=-

LOL Me too, I played with it back in the day but never went forward.. Ubuntu is great for beginners but so is Mint. ;)

I'm a former slackware and gentoo user. I use mainly Debian for
my servers and and PopOS as my desktop.

Why, because most packages in the wild have a .deb build.

Also, I like to focus on stable releases vs rolling releases.
Just don't have the energy to troubleshoot rolling releases. Back
in my day, sure..... No kids, no responsiblities, etc....

Just for clarification... Slackware is not a rolling release. Many
would consider it the very definition of "stable". It's also not really
a great choice for beginners, since that is sort of the topic of this
thread.

Dan
(long-time and current Slackware user) ;-)



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On 06 May 2024, Dan Clough said the following...

Also, I like to focus on stable releases vs rolling releases.
Just don't have the energy to troubleshoot rolling releases. Back
in my day, sure..... No kids, no responsiblities, etc....

Just for clarification... Slackware is not a rolling release. Many
would consider it the very definition of "stable". It's also not really a great choice for beginners, since that is sort of the topic of this thread.

er.. a huge portion of the Slackware community uses rolling release. that's exactly what Slackware-current is.

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Alexander Grotewohl wrote to Dan Clough <=-

On 06 May 2024, Dan Clough said the following...

Also, I like to focus on stable releases vs rolling releases.
Just don't have the energy to troubleshoot rolling releases. Back
in my day, sure..... No kids, no responsiblities, etc....

Just for clarification... Slackware is not a rolling release. Many
would consider it the very definition of "stable". It's also not really
a great choice for beginners, since that is sort of the topic of this thread.

er.. a huge portion of the Slackware community uses rolling
release. that's exactly what Slackware-current is.

Yes, that's what Slackware-current is. I didn't say anything about Slackware-current, did I?

Also, it's not a "huge" portion of the community that uses it. It's a
"small" portion, in fact. "Very small" might even be more accurate.





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On 06 May 2024, Dan Clough said the following...

Just for clarification... Slackware is not a rolling release. Many

^^^^^^^^^

Yes, that's what Slackware-current is. I didn't say anything about Slackware-current, did I?

if you want to go that route, go ask for support for the "most recent
Slackware version" and see what the first follow up question they ask is :) "Slackware" as you generalized it refers to current too.

Also, it's not a "huge" portion of the community that uses it. It's a "small" portion, in fact. "Very small" might even be more accurate.

go read the linuxquestions forums heh. there's even a 100 page sticky thread about installing slackbuilds in current because.. it has a /lot/ of users!

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Alexander Grotewohl wrote to Dan Clough <=-

On 06 May 2024, Dan Clough said the following...

Just for clarification... Slackware is not a rolling release. Many

^^^^^^^^^

Yes, that's what Slackware-current is. I didn't say anything about Slackware-current, did I?

if you want to go that route, go ask for support for the "most
recent Slackware version" and see what the first follow up
question they ask is :) "Slackware" as you generalized it refers
to current too.

Anyone asking a question like that would deserve to get flamed. Not in a million years would I ask that question. It would be "for Slackware
15.0", or perhaps "Slackware-current". No real Slacker would ask such a stupid thing.

Also, it's not a "huge" portion of the community that uses it. It's a "small" portion, in fact. "Very small" might even be more accurate.

go read the linuxquestions forums heh. there's even a 100 page
sticky thread about installing slackbuilds in current because..
it has a /lot/ of users!

I won't quibble over what "small" and "lot" mean. However many there are, there are *FAR* more using a release version.

But what would I know? I've only been using it for 26 years. <SHRUG>



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Alexander Grotewohl wrote to Dan Clough <=-

On 06 May 2024, Dan Clough said the following...

Anyone asking a question like that would deserve to get flamed. Not in
a million years would I ask that question. It would be "for Slackware 15.0", or perhaps "Slackware-current". No real Slacker would ask such a stupid thing.

instead of attacking the point ("slackware as you use it refers
to both slackware-current AND slackware-stable") you attack the
example used to make the point.

Wrong, dipshit. You make an ASSUMPTION as to HOW I used the term
Slackware, and you were wrong. When I say Slackware, I mean a release
version of Slackware (most likely 15.0). If I wanted to reference
-current, I would say that.

I won't quibble over what "small" and "lot" mean. However many there
are, there are *FAR* more using a release version.

goalpost moving

Strike two. Not goalpost moving, just trying to clarify your usage of
vague terms. But you don't want to clarify that, because then your
"argument" fails.

But what would I know? I've only been using it for 26 years. <SHRUG>

appeal to age basically. i've been using it just as long. so
what?

Just an illustration of being familiar with the distro.

.. you're full of the same shit you ridicule everyone else for.

You seem quite confused. Maybe you're just ignorant, or stupid. I don't care, either way.



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On 06 May 2024, Dan Clough said the following...

Anyone asking a question like that would deserve to get flamed. Not in
a million years would I ask that question. It would be "for Slackware 15.0", or perhaps "Slackware-current". No real Slacker would ask such a stupid thing.

instead of attacking the point ("slackware as you use it refers to both slackware-current AND slackware-stable") you attack the example used to
make the point.

I won't quibble over what "small" and "lot" mean. However many there
are, there are *FAR* more using a release version.

goalpost moving

But what would I know? I've only been using it for 26 years. <SHRUG>

appeal to age basically. i've been using it just as long. so what?

.. you're full of the same shit you ridicule everyone else for.

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Just remember one thing, Google is your best friend with Linux...

I can also suggest ChatGPT. Especially if you need to write a small script or something, and you are not much of a programmer, (or scripting expert)

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Also, I like to focus on stable releases vs rolling releases. Just don't have the energy to troubleshoot rolling releases. Back in my day, sure..... No kids, no responsiblities, etc....

I feel the same way. I use Arch for a few years, I did enjoy it, but now using Debian. I would not normally suggest using Debian, but the with the newest version I could absolutely suggest it for most people now.
I was not really into the rolling release with Arch, it was the AUR that attracted me. But with Flatpack getting much better, as well is discovering distrobox, I have filled the need with getting new packages. Its been 20 years since I moved to Linux, so if I really need to I am more comfortable building from source if need be.

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On 07 May 2024, Dan Clough said the following...

Wrong, dipshit. You make an ASSUMPTION as to HOW I used the term Slackware, and you were wrong. When I say Slackware, I mean a release version of Slackware (most likely 15.0). If I wanted to reference -current, I would say that.

i'll be watching for when you do it again ;)

Strike two. Not goalpost moving, just trying to clarify your usage of vague terms. But you don't want to clarify that, because then your "argument" fails.

goalpost moving indeed.

Just an illustration of being familiar with the distro.

not very then?

.. you're full of the same shit you ridicule everyone else for.

You seem quite confused. Maybe you're just ignorant, or stupid. I
don't care, either way.

you seem to care quite a bit. every response you post, to pretty much anyone, is full of vitriol. you blow your lid anytime somebody questions you.

you also seem to be less happy that half the US population. are you perhaps a Democrat? ;)

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On Mon, 6 May 2024 03:28:36 -0400, Mike -> Al Derosa wrote:

I'm a former slackware and gentoo user. I use mainly Debian for my
servers and and PopOS as my desktop.

I used Gentoo for quite some time, as well. It was fun while it lasted, but I ended up going to a binary package management system.

Also, I like to focus on stable releases vs rolling releases. Just don't have the energy to troubleshoot rolling releases. Back in my day,
sure..... No kids, no responsiblities, etc....

I remember Gentoo having a lot of issues if you weren't paying attention, so maybe that's where the "rolling release" got many of it's complaints from. However, I've been using Archlinux for over 10 years now, and have had to "troubleshoot" maybe three times in that entire duration. Many times there is a
mail or announcement that a package may be bad and/or broke some dependencies, so if you want to avoid issues, don't upgrade for a couple days (until the problem is fixed).

Not being on a set schedule for upgrading or anything, it doesn't bother me one
bit waiting another day, week, month, whatever to upgrade packages.

Regards,
Nick

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I feel the same way. I use Arch for a few years, I did enjoy it, but now using Debian. I would not normally suggest using Debian, but the with
the newest version I could absolutely suggest it for most people now.
I was not really into the rolling release with Arch, it was the AUR that attracted me. But with Flatpack getting much better, as well is discovering distrobox, I have filled the need with getting new packages. Its been 20 years since I moved to Linux, so if I really need to I am
more comfortable building from source if need be.

Got'cha... There is to much other things in a day that need to get accomplished, which is why I moved from Gentoo after a couple years into debian
base distros. I mainly use them only for servers, but recently purchased a mini
pc and setup PopOS.

PopOS as some may know is building their new cosmic desktop so they are lagging
behind in some areas. But I'm still getting updated packages via flatpak, including Amiberry which required different dependencies if installing as a .deb. This is where flatpak is nice, grant you I have some other issues in terms of host-run support since it's running in a sandbox.

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On 07 May 2024, Lloyd Alexandre said the following...

I can also suggest ChatGPT. Especially if you need to write a small
script or something, and you are not much of a programmer, (or scripting expert)

Very good point!! I need to remember that..

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installing as a .deb. This is where flatpak is nice, grant you I have
some other issues in terms of host-run support since it's running in a sandbox.

I get you, but this is where Flatseal can help in certain situations with that.
Helps give you control over socket, devices and file-system access for any particular flatpak

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Has anyone moved from Windows to Linux??

Just wondering...

Everything is compatible as far as data files so you just need to replace the Mystic binaries from the old system with the new ones. And then you have to go
into mystic -cfg and change the paths. The big ones I can think of are the System Directories section and also message bases have their path configured in
each base I believe, and of course file bases have files stored places, etc. Basically anywhere that has a path will need updating but otherwise it is doable.

If the file system is the case sensitive like if you are moving from Windows to
Linux then you need to make sure those match up too.

https://wiki.mysticbbs.com/doku.php?id=faq#migrate_mystic_to_different_os

There is a little bit in the FAQ although it could be a little outdated.

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Just for clarification... Slackware is not a rolling release. Many
would consider it the very definition of "stable". It's also not really a great choice for beginners, since that is sort of the topic of this thread.

While I didn't start with Slackware as my first 'distro' (I started with SLS), I still think that if you actually take the time, Slackware would
be a better distro to learn from. But that's my $0.02.

That said, a lot of packages are so 'in tune' (for lack of a better word) with those package-managers, it is a little more difficult to get stuff
built. (Recently, tried to install MongoDB on Slackware 15.0... it
was a pain. Even with Slackbuilds.org.)

(long-time and current Slackware user) ;-)

Ditto here.

Ed

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