• Israel's Role In 9/11

    From NefeshBarYochai@void@invalid.noy to soc.culture.israel,can.politics,nz.politics,alt.atheism,rec.arts.tv on Sat Sep 26 12:36:30 2026
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    The tale of 9/11 will just not go away, largely because it is clear to
    anyone who reads the lengthy 9/11 Commission Report that many issues
    that should have been subject to inquiry were ignored for what would
    appear to be political reasons. The George W. Bush Administration
    quite obviously did not want to assume any blame for what had happened
    and that bias also extended to providing cover for U.S. oallies,o most particularly Saudi Arabia and Israel. Those who have sought the truth
    about 9/11 have been persistent in their attempts to find out
    information that was suppressed but they have been blocked repeatedly
    in spite of numerous FOIA requests.

    Now, eighteen years after the event, there has been something like a breakthrough, penetrating the wall of silence erected by the
    government. FBI reports on the possible Israeli role in 9/11 were
    released on May 7th and they serve to support speculation by myself
    and other former intelligence officers that Israel, at a minimum, had
    detailed prior knowledge of what was to take place. More than that,
    Israeli intelligence officers working in the United States might well
    have enabled certain aspects of the conspiracy.

    To recount some of what is already known and suspected, one should
    first examine the 2016 release of a heavily edited and redacted 28
    pages long annex to the 9/11 Commission Report that explored the Saudi
    Arabian role in the terrorist attack . The section concluded that the
    Saudi government may have played a direct role in 9/11 by assisting
    two of the hijackers, including a dry run exercise intended to learn
    how to get into a planeAs cockpit. There was also considerable
    evidence suggesting that wealthy Saudis and even members of the Royal
    Family had been supporting and funding al-Qaeda.

    But far exceeding the Saudi role is the involvement of the Israeli
    intelligence service Mossad, which was not subject to any serious
    inquiry or investigation by U.S. intelligence or police agencies.
    Israel, in spite of obvious involvement in 9/11, was not included in
    the 9/11 Commission Report despite the existence of an enormous
    Israeli intelligence operation freely working in the United States
    that was known to the FBI. Some of those Mossad officers were notably
    filmed celebrating as the Twin Towers were burning and collapsing.

    In the year 2001 Israel was running a massive spying operation through
    a number of cover companies in New Jersey, Florida and also on the
    west coast that served as spying mechanisms for Mossad officers. The
    effort was supported by the Mossad Station in Washington D.C. and
    included a large number of volunteers, the so-called oart studentso
    who traveled around the U.S. selling various products at malls and
    outdoor markets. The FBI was aware of the numerous Israeli students
    who were routinely overstaying their visas and some in the Bureau
    certainly believed that they were assisting their countryAs
    intelligence service in some way, but it proved difficult to actually
    link the students to undercover operations, so they were regarded as a
    minor nuisance and were normally left to the tender mercies of the
    inspectors at the Bureau of Customs and Immigration.

    American law enforcement was also painfully aware that the Israelis
    were running more sophisticated intelligence operations inside the
    United States, many of which were focused on WashingtonAs military
    capabilities and intentions. Some specialized intelligence units
    concentrated on obtaining military and dual use technology. It was
    also known that Israeli spies had penetrated the phone systems of the
    U.S. government, to include those at the White House.

    In its annual classified counterespionage review, the FBI invariably
    places Israel at the top for ofriendlyo countries that spy on the U.S.
    In fact, the pre-9/11 Bureau did its best to stay on top of the
    problem, but it rarely received any political support from the Justice Department and White House if an espionage case involved Israelis. By
    one estimate, more than 100 such cases were not prosecuted for
    political reasons. Any Israeli caught in flagrante would most often be
    quietly deported and most Americans who were helping Israel were let
    off with a slap on the wrist.

    But the hands-off attitude towards Israel shifted dramatically when,
    on September 11, 2001, a New Jersey housewife saw something from the
    window of her apartment building, which overlooked the World Trade
    Center. She watched as the buildings burned and crumbled but also
    noted something strange. Three young men were kneeling on the roof of
    a white transit van parked by the waterAs edge, making a movie in
    which they featured themselves high fiving and laughing in front of
    the catastrophic scene unfolding behind them. The woman wrote down the
    license plate number of the van and called the police, who responded
    quickly and soon both the local force and the FBI began looking for
    the vehicle, which was subsequently seen by other witnesses in various locations along the New Jersey waterfront, its occupants ocelebrating
    and filming.o

    The license plate number revealed that the van belonged to a New
    Jersey registered company called Urban Moving Systems. At 4 p.m. the
    vehicle was spotted and pulled over. Five men between the ages of 22
    and 27 years old emerged and were detained at gunpoint and handcuffed.
    They were all Israelis. One of them had $4,700 in cash hidden in his
    sock and another had two foreign passports. Bomb sniffing dogs reacted
    to the smell of explosives in the van, which had very little actual
    moving equipment inside.

    According to the initial police report, the driver identified as Sivan Kurzberg, stated oWe are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your
    problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem.o The four
    other passengers were SivanAs brother Paul, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner
    and Omer Marmari. The men were detained at the Bergen County jail in
    New Jersey before being transferred the FBIAs Foreign
    Counterintelligence Section, which handles allegations of spying.

    After the arrest, the FBI obtained a warrant to search Urban Moving
    SystemAs Weehawken, N.J., offices. Papers and computers were seized.
    The company owner Dominick Suter, also an Israeli, answered FBI
    questions but when a follow-up interview was set up a few days later
    it was learned that he had fled the country for Israel, putting both
    his business and home up for sale. The office space and warehouse were abandoned. It was later learned that Suter has been associated with at
    least fourteen businesses in the United States, mostly in New Jersey
    and New York but also in Florida. Suter and his wife Omit Levinson
    Suter were the owners of 1 Stop Cleaner located in Wellington Florida
    and Dominick was also associated with Basia McDonnell, described as a
    Polish oholocaust survivor,o as a business partner in yet another
    business called Value Ad. Florida was a main focus for the Israeli
    intelligence operation in the U.S. that was directed against Arabs.

    The five Israelis were among 140 Israelis arrested after 9/11, most of
    whom had military backgrounds, including some who were trained in ointelligence.o The five were held in Brooklyn, initially on charges
    relating to visa fraud. FBI interrogators questioned them for more
    than two months. Several were held in solitary confinement so they
    could not communicate with each other and two of them were given
    repeated polygraph exams, which they failed when claiming that they
    were nothing more than students working summer jobs. The two men that
    the FBI focused on most intensively were believed to be Mossad staff
    officers and the other three were volunteers helping with
    surveillance.

    The Israelis were not exactly cooperative, but the FBI concluded from
    documents obtained at their office in Weehawken that they were
    targeting Arabs in New York and New Jersey, most particularly in the
    Paterson N.J. area, which has the second largest Muslim population in
    the U.S. They were particularly interested in local groups possibly
    linked to Hamas and Hezbollah as well as in charities that might be
    used for fund raising. The FBI also concluded that the Israelis had
    actually monitored the activities of at least two of the 9/11
    hijackers.

    To be sure, working on an intelligence operation does not necessarily
    imply participation in either the planning or execution of something
    like 9/11, but there are Israeli fingerprints all over the place, with
    cover companies and intelligence personnel often intersecting with
    locations frequented by the hijackers.

    Apart from the interrogations of the five men from Weehawken, the U.S. government has apparently never sought to find out what else the
    Israelis might have known or were up to in September 2011. There are a
    lot of dots that might well have been connected once upon a time, but
    the trail has grown cold. Police records in New Jersey and New York
    where the men were held have disappeared and FBI interrogation reports
    have been inaccessible. Media coverage of the case also died, though
    the five were referred to in the press as the odancing Israeliso and
    by some, more disparagingly, as the odancing Shlomos.o

    Inevitably, the George W. Bush White House intervened. After 71 days
    in detention, the five Israelis were released from prison by Attorney
    General John Ashcroft, put on a plane, and deported. Two of the men
    later spoke about their unpleasant experience in America on an Israeli
    talk show, one explaining that their filming the fall of the Twin
    Towers was to odocument the event.o In 2004 the five men sued the
    United States government for damages, alleging othat their detention
    was illegal and that their civil rights were violated, suffering
    racial slurs, physical violence, religious discrimination, rough interrogations, deprivation of sleep, and many other offenses.o They
    were represented by Nitsana Darshan-Leitner, who in the previous year
    had founded the Shurat HaDin Israel Law Center which seeks to bankrupt
    groups that Israel considers to be oterrorists.o Shurat HaDin is
    closely tied to the Israeli government.

    Now it is just possible that the Urban Moving Israelis were indeed
    uninvolved in 9/11 but nevertheless working for Mossad, which the
    Israeli government even subsequently admitted, but the new evidence
    suggests that the Israelis almost certainly had considerable prior
    knowledge and were likely involved in what developed. The new
    information reveals that minutes after the first plane struck the
    World Trade Center, five Israelis had taken up position in the parking
    lot of the Doric Apartment Complex in Union City, New Jersey, where
    they took pictures and filmed the attacks while also celebrating the
    fall of the towers and ohigh fiving.o One eyewitness interviewed by
    the Bureau had seen the IsraelisA van circling the building parking at
    8:00 a.m. that day, more than 40 minutes prior to the attack,
    indicating prior knowledge of what was about to happen.

    The eyewitness testimony is supported by copies of photos taken by the
    men that the FBI seized. The photo reproductions were obtained via a
    FOIA request made by a private citizen and are of poor quality,
    deliberately made so by the FBI to conceal faces and other details.
    They constitute only 14 of over seventy photos taken by the Israelis. Nevertheless, they clearly demonstrate that a celebration was going
    on. One photo, intriguingly, shows Sivan Kurzberg holding a lit
    lighter in front of the Manhattan Skyline on September 10th, one day
    before 9/11. It was apparently taken at the Doric Complex on a
    reconnoitering visit made on that day and suggests that Kurzberg was
    simulating the attack on the towers on the following day.

    Why would the Israelis do it? Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
    Netanyahu described 9/11 initially as oa good thing.o He was later
    quoted as saying somewhat more expansively oWe are benefiting from one
    thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the
    American struggle in Iraq.o To be sure, 9/11 was a gift to Israel and
    it is a gift that keeps on giving. America is at war in a number of
    Muslim countries and its troops blanket the Middle East, to include a
    base in Israel dedicated to the defense of that country. It is all a
    result of the Global War on Terror and the GWOT started with 9/11. And
    just maybe it was a fire that was ignited by Israel.

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-role-in-9-11/


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