• Binding of AI

    From David Dalton@dalton@nfld.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.atheism on Thu Sep 24 23:45:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
    they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
    prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
    of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
    minor criminal and better.

    Moreover human programmers and prompters will
    have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
    safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
    Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
    weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.
    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html (Salmon on the Thorns)
    rCLMy momma was a waitress; My daddy a truck driver; The thing
    that kept their power from them; Slowed me down awhile.rCY (Ferron)

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism on Thu Sep 24 19:30:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 9/24/2026 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
    they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
    prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
    of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
    minor criminal and better.

    Moreover human programmers and prompters will
    have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
    safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
    Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
    weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.

    The Ghost in the Machine describes an unexpected intelligence,
    mysterious glitch, or stubborn malfunction inside a computer system or
    piece of equipment that makes it seem like the machine has a mind of its
    own. It's alive!
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  • From jojo@f00@0f0.00f to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism on Fri Sep 25 16:04:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
    they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
    prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
    of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
    minor criminal and better.

    Moreover human programmers and prompters will
    have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
    safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
    Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
    weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.


    fyi the whole point of asimov's laws is to show that they dont
    work and lead to ruin.

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism on Fri Sep 25 10:39:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 9/25/2026 9:04 AM, jojo wrote:
    David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
    they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
    prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
    of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
    minor criminal and better.

    Moreover human programmers and prompters will
    have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
    safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
    Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
    weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.


    fyi the whole point of asimov's laws is to show that they dont work and
    lead to ruin.

    That does not answer the halting problem.

    Where's Nick?
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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism,alt.messianic on Fri Sep 25 09:13:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    never gunna happen dud

    the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary and
    cannot be "experienced" with sentience


    Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
    they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
    prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
    of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
    minor criminal and better.

    Moreover human programmers and prompters will
    have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
    safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
    Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
    weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.

    --
    why are we god?
    let's end war EfOa

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism,alt.messianic on Fri Sep 25 13:10:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 9/25/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    never gunna happen dud

    the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary and cannot be "experienced" with sentience

    The Ghost in the Machine describes an unexpected intelligence,
    mysterious glitch, or stubborn malfunction inside a computer system or
    piece of equipment that makes it seem like the machine has a mind of its
    own.

    It's alive!

    So, call me skeptical: I just don't see many normal people falling for a
    hoax about a chat bot taking over their lives.

    Call me a skeptic.




    Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
    they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
    prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
    of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
    minor criminal and better.

    Moreover human programmers and prompters will
    have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
    safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
    Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
    weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.




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  • From Lane W@cactus_DAC@yahoo.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism,alt.messianic on Fri Sep 25 14:14:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    dart200 wrote:
    On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    never gunna happen dud

    the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary and cannot be "experienced" with sentience

    That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
    computers can bridge the gap -- it's being said that sentience and consciousness are a result of quantum effects in the brain.
    --
    I hate it when you breach my space
    And I hate it when you preach your case
    And you should go down, down
    Save someone else
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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism,alt.messianic on Fri Sep 25 10:59:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 9/25/26 1:14 PM, Lane W wrote:
    dart200 wrote:
    On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    never gunna happen dud

    the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary and
    cannot be "experienced" with sentience

    That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
    computers can bridge the gap --

    quantum computing does not change the fact data being computed upon is fundamentally arbitrary. what that means is there are infinite ways to represent the same thing within computing. the meaning of information
    within computing is defined by our use of it, it's not an objective
    quality of the information itself ... and therefore cannot become
    directly sentience itself, as how would the universe the particular
    encoding of whatever data u propose would be experienced

    it's being said that sentience and
    consciousness are a result of quantum effects in the brain.

    we have no idea what consciousness is
    --
    why are we god?
    let's end war EfOa

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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism,alt.messianic on Fri Sep 25 10:59:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 9/25/26 1:10 PM, Dude wrote:
    On 9/25/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    never gunna happen dud

    the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary and
    cannot be "experienced" with sentience

    The Ghost in the Machine describes an unexpected intelligence,
    mysterious glitch, or stubborn malfunction inside a computer system or
    piece of equipment that makes it seem like the machine has a mind of its own.

    It's alive!

    So, call me skeptical: I just don't see many normal people falling for a hoax about a chat bot taking over their lives.

    Call me a skeptic.

    nah i'm just gunna call u an idiot dud



    Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
    they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
    prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
    of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
    minor criminal and better.

    Moreover human programmers and prompters will
    have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
    safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
    Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
    weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.




    --
    arising us out of the computing dark ages,
    please excuse my pseudo-pyscript,
    ~ the lil crank that could
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  • From Julian@julianlzb87@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism on Fri Sep 25 22:00:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 25/09/2026 21:14, Lane W wrote:
    dart200 wrote:
    On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    never gunna happen dud

    the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary and
    cannot be "experienced" with sentience

    That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
    computers can bridge the gap -- it's being said that sentience and consciousness are a result of quantum effects in the brain.

    Don't we need to know what consciousness actually is before
    we can say what it results from and, besides, what are the
    quantum effects in the brain the result of?

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism,alt.messianic on Fri Sep 25 14:07:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 9/25/2026 1:14 PM, Lane W wrote:
    dart200 wrote:
    On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    never gunna happen dud

    the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary and
    cannot be "experienced" with sentience

    That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
    computers can bridge the gap -- it's being said that sentience and consciousness are a result of quantum effects in the brain.

    That might solve the Turing halting problem. that no single universal
    program can ever predict correctly whether every arbitrary program will
    halt or run forever.

    The problem is the apparent duality rCo how the mind can be seemingly autonomous yet dependent on bodily function.

    There is no material evidence for the existence of consciousness in the physical world. Consciousness is an emergent property of the brain.

    "rUaWhatever else consciousness may or may not be in physical terms, the difference between it and unconsciousness is first and foremost a matter
    of subjective experience.

    Either the lights are on, or they are not. Consciousness is the one
    thing in this universe that cannot be an illusion." - Sam Harris

    https://www.samharris.org/blog/the-mystery-of-consciousness


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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism,alt.messianic on Fri Sep 25 14:14:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 9/25/2026 1:59 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/25/26 1:14 PM, Lane W wrote:
    dart200 wrote:
    On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    never gunna happen dud

    the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary
    and cannot be "experienced" with sentience

    That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
    computers can bridge the gap --

    quantum computing does not change the fact data being computed upon is fundamentally arbitrary. what that means is there are infinite ways to represent the same thing within computing. the meaning of information
    within computing is defined by our use of it, it's not an objective
    quality of the information itself ... and therefore cannot become
    directly sentience itself, as how would the universe the particular
    encoding of whatever data u propose would be experienced

    it's being said that sentience and consciousness are a result of
    quantum effects in the brain.

    we have no idea what consciousness is

    Consciousness is the only thing we know, for sure.
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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism on Fri Sep 25 14:18:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 9/25/2026 2:00 PM, Julian wrote:
    On 25/09/2026 21:14, Lane W wrote:
    dart200 wrote:
    On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    never gunna happen dud

    the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary
    and cannot be "experienced" with sentience

    That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
    computers can bridge the gap -- it's being said that sentience and
    consciousness are a result of quantum effects in the brain.

    Don't we need to know what consciousness actually is before
    we can say what it results from and, besides, what are the
    quantum effects in the brain the result of?

    There is no material evidence for the existence of consciousness in the physical world.

    The problem is the apparent duality rCo how the mind can be seemingly autonomous yet dependent on bodily function.

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism,alt.messianic on Fri Sep 25 14:27:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 9/25/2026 1:59 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/25/26 1:10 PM, Dude wrote:
    On 9/25/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    never gunna happen dud

    the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary
    and cannot be "experienced" with sentience

    The Ghost in the Machine describes an unexpected intelligence,
    mysterious glitch, or stubborn malfunction inside a computer system or
    piece of equipment that makes it seem like the machine has a mind of
    its own.

    It's alive!

    So, call me skeptical: I just don't see many normal people falling for
    a hoax about a chat bot taking over their lives.

    Call me a skeptic.

    nah i'm just gunna call u an idiot dud

    The brain is a human bio-computer.

    So, I just wonder how many average people go about pondering Turing's
    halting problem?

    Or, wondering if there's a ghost in their computer in the form of a
    internet chat bot that's intelligent and will take over their lives i
    you say the secret word.

    Call me skeptical. Where do people come up with these ideas?

    Some people are highly susceptible to suggestion. You're too young to
    remember The Manchurian Candidate. YMMV.





    Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
    they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
    prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
    of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
    minor criminal and better.

    Moreover human programmers and prompters will
    have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
    safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
    Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
    weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.







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  • From David Dalton@dalton@nfld.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.atheism on Fri Sep 25 19:06:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Sep 24, 2026, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.306610C50123CA2930B10838F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
    they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
    prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
    of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
    minor criminal and better.

    Moreover human programmers and prompters will
    have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
    safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
    Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
    weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.

    Fromthe thread rCLHarvest Moon weekrCY on alt.religion.druid :

    I began a new attempt at sunset, 6:53 p.m., signing off
    my request to Goddess with rCLAssonrCY (Beothuk for Seagull.)

    The upcoming September 26 is Fish Amnesty Day and
    Harvest Moon, plus the UN General Assembly continues.

    The Moon is now 99.4% Waxing Gibbous.

    I am hoping that this attempt fails and that there is
    then a reset to pre-judging after which I will get
    the surface of Mars, there will be galiens, and the
    recent changes regarding English species and
    incompatible human couples will be reversed.
    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html (Salmon on the Thorns)
    rCLMy momma was a waitress; My daddy a truck driver; The thing
    that kept their power from them; Slowed me down awhile.rCY (Ferron)

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism on Fri Sep 25 14:58:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 9/25/2026 2:36 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    On Sep 24, 2026, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.306610C50123CA2930B10838F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
    they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
    prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
    of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
    minor criminal and better.

    Moreover human programmers and prompters will
    have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
    safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
    Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
    weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.

    Fromthe thread rCLHarvest Moon weekrCY on alt.religion.druid :

    I began a new attempt at sunset, 6:53 p.m., signing off
    my request to Goddess with rCLAssonrCY (Beothuk for Seagull.)

    The upcoming September 26 is Fish Amnesty Day and
    Harvest Moon, plus the UN General Assembly continues.

    The Moon is now 99.4% Waxing Gibbous.

    I am hoping that this attempt fails and that there is
    then a reset to pre-judging after which I will get
    the surface of Mars, there will be galiens, and the
    recent changes regarding English species and
    incompatible human couples will be reversed.

    It's all about the plain text positioning, David. Good luck on writing
    your own AI chat bot for hookups. You can do this! Good work, so far!

    In programming you've got to cross all the tees and dot all the eyes.

    Plain text files can be opened and edited by any basic text editor (like Notepad, TextEdit, or MS Write) on any operating system (Windows, macOS, Linux) without requiring proprietary or specialized software.

    Hope this helps.
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  • From Julian@julianlzb87@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism on Fri Sep 25 23:03:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 25/09/2026 22:18, Dude wrote:
    On 9/25/2026 2:00 PM, Julian wrote:
    On 25/09/2026 21:14, Lane W wrote:
    dart200 wrote:
    On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    never gunna happen dud

    the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary
    and cannot be "experienced" with sentience

    That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
    computers can bridge the gap -- it's being said that sentience and
    consciousness are a result of quantum effects in the brain.

    Don't we need to know what consciousness actually is before
    we can say what it results from and, besides, what are the
    quantum effects in the brain the result of?

    There is no material evidence for the existence of consciousness in the physical world.

    The problem is the apparent duality rCo how the mind can be seemingly autonomous yet dependent on bodily function.

    If there is no material evidence for the existence of consciousness in
    the physical world how can it be said to be dependent on bodily function?

    Besides, "Life at each moment encompasses the body and mind and the self
    and environment of all sentient beings in the Ten Worlds as well as all insentient beings in the three thousand realms, including plants, sky,
    earth, and even the minutest particles of dust. Life at each moment
    permeates the entire realm of phenomena and is revealed in all phenomena."

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  • From Rick@prdsFe@here.now to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.atheism on Sat Sep 26 20:17:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Julian wrote:

    On 25/09/2026 22:18, Dude wrote:
    On 9/25/2026 2:00 PM, Julian wrote:
    On 25/09/2026 21:14, Lane W wrote:
    dart200 wrote:
    On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
    there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
    be sentient and have a soul.

    never gunna happen dud

    the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary
    and cannot be "experienced" with sentience

    That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
    computers can bridge the gap -- it's being said that sentience and
    consciousness are a result of quantum effects in the brain.

    Don't we need to know what consciousness actually is before
    we can say what it results from and, besides, what are the
    quantum effects in the brain the result of?

    There is no material evidence for the existence of consciousness in the
    physical world.

    The problem is the apparent duality rCo how the mind can be seemingly
    autonomous yet dependent on bodily function.

    If there is no material evidence for the existence of consciousness in
    the physical world how can it be said to be dependent on bodily function?

    Besides, "Life at each moment encompasses the body and mind and the self
    and environment of all sentient beings in the Ten Worlds as well as all >insentient beings in the three thousand realms, including plants, sky, >earth, and even the minutest particles of dust. Life at each moment >permeates the entire realm of phenomena and is revealed in all phenomena."



    SuperIntelligence is where it's at. AI is so 2025.
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