• Re: Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

    From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Mon Aug 10 17:10:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/10/2026 1:12 PM, Andrew wrote:
    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:115b1f3$2n1sa$3@dont-email.me...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

    ------>>>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    Or not.

    He was an ungodly atheist.

    He was pronounced dead
    by medical professionals.

    They sent his body to the morgue.

    I want a news article, something in print.

    I think his medical records would be more
    authoritative.

    Why not just go to the link and hear his
    testimony?

    He was an ungodly atheist. He died and
    meet God.


    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy claimed to
    have been abducted by space aliens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident

    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his testimony; plus, they
    all passed multiple lie detector tests!!

    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Dawn

    P.S. I am not a believer in either account, the one you linked to or
    Mr. Walton's.

    P.P.S. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidences. (Note the plural.)
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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Mon Aug 10 17:12:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/10/2026 1:11 PM, Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote in message
    news:skej7l18tlfkcc4gcjrucfuh179fp6hsbu@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    -a"Andrew" wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ----->>>-a-a https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    Or not.

    He was an ungodly atheist.
    He was pronounced dead
    by medical professionals.
    They sent his body to the morgue.

    Medical professionals have been known to be wrong.

    Yes, but there are multiple solid criteria
    to be met before one is pronounced dead.

    Such cases are rare but not unknown.-a Have any of these
    "recoveries" ever happened after their heads were removed?

    This is like somehow "medical miracles" never seem to
    include missing limbs being restored.

    Just listen to his testimony. He was an atheist. But God revealed His 'overwhelming love' to him.

    Dead people do not come back to life, hence, the guy in the video was
    not truly dead.

    Dawn
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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Mon Aug 10 18:59:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:12:06 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <VvoeS.601$7WX8.271@fx08.ams4> wrote:

    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:115b1f3$2n1sa$3@dont-email.me...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

    ------>>>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    Or not.

    He was an ungodly atheist.

    He was pronounced dead
    by medical professionals.

    They sent his body to the morgue.

    I want a news article, something in print.

    I think his medical records would be more
    authoritative.

    Not necessarily.


    Why not just go to the link and hear his
    testimony?

    How can he prove he is not lying?


    He was an ungodly atheist. He died and
    meet God.

    So you believe. But cannot prove.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Mon Aug 10 19:02:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:11:31 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <nvoeS.225924$aXr.38561@fx18.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:skej7l18tlfkcc4gcjrucfuh179fp6hsbu@4ax.com... >> "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

    ----->>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    Or not.

    He was an ungodly atheist.
    He was pronounced dead
    by medical professionals.
    They sent his body to the
    morgue.

    Medical professionals have been known to be wrong.

    Yes, but there are multiple solid criteria
    to be met before one is pronounced dead.

    Such as what? Are you sure they are always applied?


    Such cases are rare but not unknown. Have any of these
    "recoveries" ever happened after their heads were removed?

    This is like somehow "medical miracles" never seem to
    include missing limbs being restored.

    Just listen to his testimony. He was an atheist.

    And now he is a liar or delusional. Nothing supports him.

    But God revealed His 'overwhelming love' to
    him.

    So you believe but cannot support with any unambiguous,
    unrelated, verifiable and credible evidence.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Mon Aug 10 19:03:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 17:12:31 -0500, Dawn Flood
    <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <115dicf$3go73$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 8/10/2026 1:11 PM, Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote in message
    news:skej7l18tlfkcc4gcjrucfuh179fp6hsbu@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    a"Andrew" wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ----->>>aa https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    Or not.

    He was an ungodly atheist.
    He was pronounced dead
    by medical professionals.
    They sent his body to the morgue.

    Medical professionals have been known to be wrong.

    Yes, but there are multiple solid criteria
    to be met before one is pronounced dead.

    Such cases are rare but not unknown.a Have any of these
    "recoveries" ever happened after their heads were removed?

    This is like somehow "medical miracles" never seem to
    include missing limbs being restored.

    Just listen to his testimony. He was an atheist. But God revealed His
    'overwhelming love' to him.

    Dead people do not come back to life, hence, the guy in the video was
    not truly dead.

    Dawn

    Exactly. One test for death - does he ever move or speak?
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.atheism on Mon Aug 10 17:02:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Dawn Flood wrote:
    On 8/10/2026 1:12 PM, Andrew wrote:
    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:115b1f3$2n1sa$3@dont-email.me...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

    ------>>>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    Or not.

    He was an ungodly atheist.

    He was pronounced dead
    by medical professionals.

    They sent his body to the morgue.

    I want a news article, something in print.

    I think his medical records would be more
    authoritative.

    Why not just go to the link and hear his
    testimony?

    He was an ungodly atheist. He died and
    meet God.


    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy claimed to
    have been abducted by space aliens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident

    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his testimony; plus, they
    all passed multiple lie detector tests!!

    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Dawn

    P.S. I am not a believer in either account, the one you linked to or
    Mr. Walton's.

    P.P.S. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidences. (Note the plural.)

    Or, lacking evidence, extraordinary claims can get by on
    extraordinary conspiracy theories.
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  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.atheism on Mon Aug 10 20:07:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 11:04:58 -0700, "Andrew"
    "Attila" wrote in message news:lkhg7lhl5s37504k0tbjhh2ntgdo0ks4qh@4ax.com... >> "Andrew" wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

    ------>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    Or not.

    He was an ungodly atheist.

    He was pronounced dead
    by medical professionals.

    They sent his body to the
    morgue.

    Medical professionals have been known to be wrong.

    And medical patients have been known to make shit up.

    If there were any truth to it, we'd be hearing about it from
    the NY Times, not youtube.


    Such
    cases are rare but not unknown. Have any of these
    "recoveries" ever happened after their heads were removed?

    This is like somehow "medical miracles" never seem to
    include missing limbs being restored.

    I had a missing limb restored. It just took 3 years to grow
    back, cuz the tree was pretty healthy.
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  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.atheism on Mon Aug 10 20:17:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Samuel Spade wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:

    ...
    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy claimed to have been abducted by space aliens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident

    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his testimony; plus, they all passed multiple lie detector tests!!

    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Andrew also posted a while back about some guy in China who
    was 400 years old, and that the story was ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

    Consider the source.


    Dawn

    P.S. I am not a believer in either account, the one you linked to or
    Mr. Walton's.

    P.P.S. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidences. (Note the plural.)

    Or, lacking evidence, extraordinary claims can get by on
    extraordinary conspiracy theories.

    Opps!! I meant, lacking *evidenceS*.....
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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 11 03:44:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:115di9h$3go73$1@dont-email.me...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Dawn Flood" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

    ------>>>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    Or not.

    He was an ungodly atheist.
    He was pronounced dead
    by medical professionals.
    They sent his body to the morgue.

    I want a news article, something in print.

    I think his medical records would be more
    authoritative.

    Why not just go to the link and hear his
    testimony?

    He was an ungodly atheist. He died and
    meet God.


    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy claimed to
    have been abducted by space aliens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident

    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his testimony; plus, they
    all passed multiple lie detector tests!!

    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Dawn

    P.S. I am not a believer in either account, the one you linked to or

    Yet you are a believer in the atheistic origins
    myth, aren't you?

    Yes.

    You *believe* what you were told. Contrary
    to established empirical science, as well as to
    basic common sense! Therefore you are a ...
    *believer*.
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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 11 03:47:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Samuel Spade" wrote in message news:im4l7ldahoe8gquto3t8in744i921kjoql@4ax.com...
    Samuel Spade wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:

    ...
    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy claimed to >> > have been abducted by space aliens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident

    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his testimony; plus, they >> > all passed multiple lie detector tests!!

    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Andrew also posted a while back about some guy in China who
    was 400 years old, and that the story was ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

    What was his name please. Li Ching-Yuen was alleged to
    have been born in 1677. Died in 1933. But that would be
    only 256 years old.

    Which is nothing compored to Methuselah who live to be
    969.

    So tell us. What year were you born? And the secret to
    your longevity.





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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 11 10:49:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 03:47:10 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <L4DeS.188131$UXf1.32321@fx03.ams4> wrote:

    "Samuel Spade" wrote in message news:im4l7ldahoe8gquto3t8in744i921kjoql@4ax.com...
    Samuel Spade wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:

    ...
    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy claimed to >>> > have been abducted by space aliens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident

    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his testimony; plus, they >>> > all passed multiple lie detector tests!!

    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Andrew also posted a while back about some guy in China who
    was 400 years old, and that the story was ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

    What was his name please. Li Ching-Yuen was alleged to
    have been born in 1677. Died in 1933. But that would be
    only 256 years old.

    Which is nothing compored to Methuselah who live to be
    969.

    Unverified and open to question.

    I am amuses by how you say the China guy was "alleged" to
    be... but Methuselah "who live to be..". How is one more
    alleged than the other?


    So tell us. What year were you born? And the secret to
    your longevity.


    That's easy. He didn't die yet.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David Canzi@dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 11 13:19:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/9/26 04:06, Andrew wrote:
    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ------>>>>>>-a-a https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.
    --
    David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. |
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  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 11 10:32:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Andrew wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote in message news:im4l7ldahoe8gquto3t8in744i921kjoql@4ax.com...
    Samuel Spade wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:

    ...
    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy claimed to >> > have been abducted by space aliens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident

    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his testimony; plus, they >> > all passed multiple lie detector tests!!

    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Andrew also posted a while back about some guy in China who
    was 400 years old, and that the story was ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

    What was his name please.

    Your assertion, you tell us.

    Li Ching-Yuen was alleged to
    have been born in 1677. Died in 1933. But that would be
    only 256 years old.

    And you believed it.


    Which is nothing compored to Methuselah who live to be
    969.

    Just like you believe that story too.


    So tell us. What year were you born? And the secret to
    your longevity.

    I was born in 1676.

    I drink diet pepsi, smoke, drink and carouse with women, eat
    spaghetti, and talk like a pirate. Try it.

    How can you stay so gullible and still be alive?
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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 11 12:44:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Samuel Spade" wrote in message news:vvlm7l19m54o88dv7io2vcub0gm4jh4ebb@4ax.com...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote:
    Samuel Spade wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:

    ...
    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy claimed to
    have been abducted by space aliens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident

    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his testimony; plus, they
    all passed multiple lie detector tests!!

    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Andrew also posted a while back about some guy in China who
    was 400 years old, and that the story was ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

    What was his name please.

    Your assertion, you tell us.

    I do not recall such a thing. I thought you would have
    some evidence. Apparently not, which indicates that
    you were lying.

    Li Ching-Yuen was alleged to have been born in 1677.
    Died in 1933. But that would be only 256 years old.

    And you believed it.

    Did I say I did? No. Therefore you were lying.again!

    Jesus tells us who your father is.

    "You are of your father the devil. He abode not in the
    truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks
    a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the
    father of lies." ~ Jesus

    We have been told the final destiny of all liars.......

    "All liars, shall have their part in the lake that burns
    with fire and brimstone:which is the second death."
    ~ Revelation 21:8.

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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 11 12:45:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "David Canzi" wrote in message news:115flin$2o9p4$1@paganini.bofh.team...
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ----->>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    --
    David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. |
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Thanks David!

    I note that you actually listened to his testimony.

    Whereas the rest of our atheist friends refused to
    do so.

    Because they were afraid it would challenge their
    non-theistic religion, which they hold very dear to
    themselves.

    But you were not afraid, David. Thank you for
    your comment!


    ~Andrew






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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 11 16:30:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 13:19:18 -0400, David Canzi
    <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> in alt.atheism with message-id <115flin$2o9p4$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    On 8/9/26 04:06, Andrew wrote:
    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ------>>>>>>aa https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    Morgue staff are not qualified to determine death. That
    requires a medical test.

    Miracles don't exist.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 11 16:34:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 12:45:10 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <6ZKeS.226279$aXr.124897@fx18.ams4> wrote:

    "David Canzi" wrote in message news:115flin$2o9p4$1@paganini.bofh.team...
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ----->>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    --
    David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. | >------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Thanks David!

    I note that you actually listened to his testimony.

    How can anyone know the is not lying?


    Whereas the rest of our atheist friends refused to
    do so.

    Not much to listen to.


    Because they were afraid it would challenge their
    non-theistic religion, which they hold very dear to
    themselves.

    Atheism is not a religion just as not collecting stamps is
    not a hobby.


    But you were not afraid, David. Thank you for
    your comment!

    Afraid of what?
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
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  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 11 15:01:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote in message news:vvlm7l19m54o88dv7io2vcub0gm4jh4ebb@4ax.com...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote:
    Samuel Spade wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:

    ...
    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy claimed to
    have been abducted by space aliens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident

    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his testimony; plus, they
    all passed multiple lie detector tests!!

    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Andrew also posted a while back about some guy in China who
    was 400 years old, and that the story was ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

    What was his name please.

    Your assertion, you tell us.

    I do not recall such a thing.

    Apparently you do.

    I thought you would have
    some evidence. Apparently not, which indicates that
    you were lying.

    LOL. If you can't prove it, you're lying? Can I quote you
    on that?

    "I thought you would have some evidence. Apparently
    not, which indicates that you were lying."
    -Andrew, 8/11/2026

    Li Ching-Yuen was alleged to have been born in 1677.
    Died in 1933. But that would be only 256 years old.

    So I got the age wrong. It's still just as absurd.
    And you believed it.

    And you believed it.

    Did I say I did?

    Yes you did. Unless you were lying about that too.

    No. Therefore you were lying.again!

    I thought you would have some evidence. Apparently not, which
    indicates that you were lying.


    Jesus tells us who your father is.

    I thought you would have some evidence. Apparently not, which
    indicates that you were lying.

    Too bad.
    --
    "I thought you would have some evidence. Apparently
    not, which indicates that you were lying."
    -Andrew, 8/11/2026
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  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 11 15:41:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Samuel Spade wrote:
    "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote in message news:vvlm7l19m54o88dv7io2vcub0gm4jh4ebb@4ax.com...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote:
    Samuel Spade wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:

    ...
    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy claimed to
    have been abducted by space aliens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident

    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his testimony; plus, they
    all passed multiple lie detector tests!!

    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Andrew also posted a while back about some guy in China who
    was 400 years old, and that the story was ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

    What was his name please.

    Your assertion, you tell us.

    I do not recall such a thing.

    Apparently you do.

    I thought you would have
    some evidence. Apparently not, which indicates that
    you were lying.

    LOL. If you can't prove it, you're lying? Can I quote you
    on that?

    "I thought you would have some evidence. Apparently
    not, which indicates that you were lying."
    -Andrew, 8/11/2026

    Li Ching-Yuen was alleged to have been born in 1677.
    Died in 1933. But that would be only 256 years old.

    So I got the age wrong. It's still just as absurd.
    And you believed it.

    And you believed it.

    Did I say I did?

    Yes you did. Unless you were lying about that too.

    No. Therefore you were lying.again!

    I don't see any "alleged" in your posts on the subject. You
    clearly stated the story as fact, but who knows if you knew
    you were lying or not...

    ************************************
    From: "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net>
    Subject: Re: They had lots of sons and daughters
    Message-ID: <pd6ttn$1m3$1@gioia.aioe.org>


    "Yap Honghor" wrote
    Andrew wrote:

    "Adam..begat sons and daughters: And all the
    days that Adam lived were nine hundred and
    thirty years: and he died." ~ Genesis 5:4-5

    It was a lie....no biological human lived longer
    than 100, even when there were no pollution.

    Please meet *Li Ching Yuen* who lived to be 256.


    https://world.parhlo.com/256-years-old-man-breaks-silence-death-reveals-shocking-secrets-world/

    He married 23 times and fathered over 200 children.

    Since Adam lived to be 3.6 times longer than Li Ching Yuen,
    we can figure approximately how many children Adam could
    have had.

    3.6 x 200 = 720

    ************************************
    ************************************
    From: "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
    Subject: Re: They had lots of sons and daughters
    Message-ID: <pd8f4e$31ih$1@adenine.netfront.net>


    "Peter Pan" wrote
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Yap Honghor" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    "Adam..begat sons and daughters: And all the
    days that Adam lived were nine hundred and
    thirty years: and he died." ~ Genesis 5:4-5

    It was a lie....no biological human lived longer
    than 100, even when there were no pollution.

    Please meet *Li Ching Yuen* who lived to be 256.

    No he didn't.

    Born 1677 ~ died 1933. Do the math.

    He was into Chinese longevity herbs since the age of ten.
    Including: Lingzhi, goji berry, wild ginseng, he shou wu,
    gotu kola along with some others.
    ************************************
    --
    "I thought you would have some evidence. Apparently
    not, which indicates that you were lying."
    -Andrew, 8/11/2026
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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 11 18:27:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/11/2026 5:44 AM, Andrew wrote:
    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:115di9h$3go73$1@dont-email.me...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Dawn Flood" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

    ------>>>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    Or not.

    He was an ungodly atheist.
    He was pronounced dead
    by medical professionals.
    They sent his body to the morgue.

    I want a news article, something in print.

    I think his medical records would be more
    authoritative.

    Why not just go to the link and hear his
    testimony?

    He was an ungodly atheist. He died and
    meet God.


    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim.-a This guy claimed
    to have been abducted by space aliens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident

    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his testimony; plus,
    they all passed multiple lie detector tests!!

    Still not a believer??-a Why not??!

    Dawn

    P.S.-a I am not a believer in either account, the one you linked to or

    Yet you are a believer in the atheistic origins myth, aren't you?
    Yes.

    You *believe* what you were told. Contrary to established empirical
    science, as well as to
    basic common sense! Therefore you are a ...
    *believer*.

    Why won't you answer my question? (Again!)
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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 03:42:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Samuel Spade" wrote in message news:616n7lh9oq4pljldis5hv6c9b4hrce22am@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote:
    Samuel Spade wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    ...
    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy claimed to
    have been abducted by space aliens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident

    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his testimony; plus, they
    all passed multiple lie detector tests!!

    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Andrew also posted a while back about some guy in China who
    was 400 years old, and that the story was ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

    What was his name please.

    Your assertion, you tell us.

    I do not recall such a thing.

    Apparently you do.

    I thought you would have some evidence.

    Apparently not, which indicates that you were lying.

    LOL. If you can't prove it, you're lying? Can I quote you
    on that?

    "I thought you would have some evidence. Apparently
    not, which indicates that you were lying."
    -Andrew, 8/11/2026

    Li Ching-Yuen was alleged to have been born in 1677.
    Died in 1933. But that would be only 256 years old.

    So I got the age wrong. It's still just as absurd.

    So there was _no_400 year old
    man tnat you said I posted about.

    You lied.


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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 03:45:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Attila" wrote in message news:ce1n7l5de741g2aos26fl7vid2op2dc5dn@4ax.com...
    David Canzi wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ----->>>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    Morgue staff are not qualified to determine death.

    His death was determined by the medical
    professionals who sent his body to the morgue.

    That requires a medical test.

    Miracles don't exist.

    Can you prove that?

    No.you can't.


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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 03:47:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Attila" wrote in message news:ui1n7l1h6ht45r49919s4b3ac80jp8693e@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "David Canzi" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ----->>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    --
    David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. | >>------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Thanks David!

    I note that you actually listened to his testimony.

    How can anyone know the is not lying?

    You never ask that to the high priests of your
    false religion. You believe whatever they say.

    Whereas the rest of our atheist friends refused to
    do so.

    Not much to listen to.

    So you refused.

    Because they were afraid it would challenge their
    non-theistic religion, which they hold very dear to
    themselves.

    Atheism is not a religion just as not
    collecting stamps is not a hobby.

    The atheistic origins myth is an unscientific fantasy.
    Since you are a believer, it is your foolish religion!

    You have a non-theistic religion.

    But you were not afraid, David. Thank you for
    your comment!

    Afraid of what?

    Not afraid of that which could possibly challenge
    his belief system.

    If you sincerely -value- whatever the truth is, and
    if you belief you have the truth, then you are not
    afraid of any thing that could possibly challenge
    it





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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 06:30:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/12/2026 5:47 AM, Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote in message
    news:ui1n7l1h6ht45r49919s4b3ac80jp8693e@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "David Canzi" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ----->>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead.-a They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead.-a Mistakes are
    common.-a Miracles are rare.

    --
    David Canzi-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a | Eternal truths come and go. |
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Thanks David!

    I note that you actually listened to his testimony.

    How can anyone know the is not lying?

    You never ask that to the high priests of your false religion. You
    believe whatever they say.

    Whereas the rest of our atheist friends refused to do so.

    Not much to listen to.

    So you refused.

    Because they were afraid it would challenge their
    non-theistic religion, which they hold very dear to
    themselves.

    Atheism is not a religion just as not collecting stamps is not a hobby.

    The atheistic origins myth is an unscientific fantasy.
    Since you are a believer, it is your foolish religion!

    You have a non-theistic religion.
    But you were not afraid, David. Thank you for your comment!

    Afraid of what?

    Not afraid of that which could possibly challenge his belief system.

    If you sincerely -value- whatever the truth is, and
    if you belief you have the truth, then you are not afraid of any thing
    that could possibly challenge
    it

    We've been waiting on God to instantaneously heal any adult amputee, and especially, to have that healing foretold in advance by some believer,
    and to even have such occur on a live video!

    Dawn
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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 05:19:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:115hlh9$p4hh$1@dont-email.me...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "David Canzi" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

    ----->>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    --
    David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. |
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Thanks David!

    I note that you actually listened to his testimony.

    How can anyone know the is not lying?

    You never ask that to the high priests of your false
    religion. You believe whatever they say.

    Whereas the rest of our atheist friends refused
    to do so.

    Not much to listen to.

    So you refused.

    Because they were afraid it would challenge their
    non-theistic religion, which they hold very dear to
    themselves.

    Atheism is not a religion just as not collecting
    stamps is not a hobby.

    The atheistic origins myth is an unscientific fantasy.
    Since you are a believer, it is your foolish religion!

    You have a non-theistic religion.

    But you were not afraid, David. Thank you for
    your comment!

    Afraid of what?

    Not afraid of that which could possibly challenge
    his belief system.

    If you sincerely -value- whatever the truth is, and
    if you belief you have the truth, then you are not
    afraid of any thing that could possibly challenge
    it

    We've been waiting on God to instantaneously heal
    any adult amputee, and especially, to have that healing
    foretold in advance by some believer, and to even have
    such occur on a live video!

    Dawn

    Here's what happened, ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    "When the Pharisees heard that Jesus had arrived, they came
    and started to argue with him. Testing him, they demanded
    that he show them a miraculous sign from heaven to prove
    his authority.

    When he heard this, he sighed deeply in his spirit and said,
    rCLWhy do these people keep demanding a miraculous sign?
    I tell you the truth, I will not give this generation any such
    sign.rCY Mk 8:11-12

    "Only an evil, adulterous generation would demand a
    miraculous sign, " Mt 16:4




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  • From Vincent Maycock@maycock@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 09:46:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 05:19:07 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:

    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:115hlh9$p4hh$1@dont-email.me...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "David Canzi" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

    ----->>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    --
    David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. |
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Thanks David!

    I note that you actually listened to his testimony.

    How can anyone know the is not lying?

    You never ask that to the high priests of your false
    religion. You believe whatever they say.

    Whereas the rest of our atheist friends refused
    to do so.

    Not much to listen to.

    So you refused.

    Because they were afraid it would challenge their
    non-theistic religion, which they hold very dear to
    themselves.

    Atheism is not a religion just as not collecting
    stamps is not a hobby.

    The atheistic origins myth is an unscientific fantasy.
    Since you are a believer, it is your foolish religion!

    You have a non-theistic religion.

    But you were not afraid, David. Thank you for
    your comment!

    Afraid of what?

    Not afraid of that which could possibly challenge
    his belief system.

    If you sincerely -value- whatever the truth is, and
    if you belief you have the truth, then you are not
    afraid of any thing that could possibly challenge
    it

    We've been waiting on God to instantaneously heal
    any adult amputee, and especially, to have that healing
    foretold in advance by some believer, and to even have
    such occur on a live video!

    Dawn

    Here's what happened, >---------------------------------------------------------------------
    "When the Pharisees heard that Jesus had arrived, they came
    and started to argue with him. Testing him, they demanded
    that he show them a miraculous sign from heaven to prove
    his authority.

    When he heard this, he sighed deeply in his spirit and said,
    oWhy do these people keep demanding a miraculous sign?
    I tell you the truth, I will not give this generation any such
    sign.o Mk 8:11-12

    That's just an excuse for not being able to give a "sign."

    "Only an evil, adulterous generation would demand a
    miraculous sign, " Mt 16:4

    Only an evil, adulterous generation would ask for a sign that a
    defendant in a murder trial did in fact commit murder. Right?

    Also, look at this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-nvAVCkBWA

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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 11:41:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 03:47:00 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <AaYeS.138437$4Ra7.39708@fx16.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:ui1n7l1h6ht45r49919s4b3ac80jp8693e@4ax.com... >> "Andrew" wrote:
    "David Canzi" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ----->>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    --
    David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. |
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>
    Thanks David!

    I note that you actually listened to his testimony.

    How can anyone know the is not lying?

    You never ask that to the high priests of your
    false religion. You believe whatever they say.

    What "high priests" of what "false religion"? Being an
    atheist is to reject all religions.


    Whereas the rest of our atheist friends refused to
    do so.

    Not much to listen to.

    So you refused.

    To listen to unverified babble? Damn right.


    Because they were afraid it would challenge their
    non-theistic religion, which they hold very dear to
    themselves.

    Atheism is not a religion just as not
    collecting stamps is not a hobby.

    The atheistic origins myth is an unscientific fantasy.

    As far as I know there is no "atheist origin myth"
    Personally I don't address the origin question because I
    have no clue as to what happened.

    Since you are a believer, it is your foolish religion!

    I guess in your twisted world somehow not believing means I
    believe. Please stay there.


    You have a non-theistic religion.

    I see you cannot conceive of anyone actually not having any
    religion at all. Not my problem.


    But you were not afraid, David. Thank you for
    your comment!

    Afraid of what?

    Not afraid of that which could possibly challenge
    his belief system.

    If you sincerely -value- whatever the truth is, and
    if you belief you have the truth, then you are not
    afraid of any thing that could possibly challenge
    it

    In your world such a challenge is impossible.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 11:43:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 05:19:07 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <WwZeS.175604$7WX8.43506@fx08.ams4> wrote:

    if you belief you have the truth, then you are not
    afraid of any thing that could possibly challenge
    it

    We've been waiting on God to instantaneously heal
    any adult amputee, and especially, to have that healing
    foretold in advance by some believer, and to even have
    such occur on a live video!

    Dawn

    Here's what happened, >---------------------------------------------------------------------
    "When the Pharisees heard that Jesus had arrived, they came
    and started to argue with him. Testing him, they demanded
    that he show them a miraculous sign from heaven to prove
    his authority.

    When he heard this, he sighed deeply in his spirit and said,
    oWhy do these people keep demanding a miraculous sign?
    I tell you the truth, I will not give this generation any such
    sign.o Mk 8:11-12

    "Only an evil, adulterous generation would demand a
    miraculous sign, " Mt 16:4

    No, that is what you believe happened. I believe you are
    full of hot air. You have as much supporting evidence as I
    do.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 11:47:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 03:45:27 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <79YeS.18$Awy7.12@fx01.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:ce1n7l5de741g2aos26fl7vid2op2dc5dn@4ax.com... >> David Canzi wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ----->>>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    Morgue staff are not qualified to determine death.

    His death was determined by the medical
    professionals who sent his body to the morgue.

    The standard for death certification is constantly changing
    for this very reason. It can currently produce false
    results.

    BTW, exactly when did this supposedly happen? And where?


    That requires a medical test.

    Miracles don't exist.

    Can you prove that?

    No.you can't.

    Nope. I agree I cannot. However, you cannot prove they do
    so there is no reason to use the word in any conversation.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 11:41:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Attila" wrote in message news:4j4p7l1krt0ttt2tamrn35ajrc223uvfvo@4ax.com...

    Personally I don't address the origin question
    because I have no clue as to what happened.

    You refuse to address the issue because the evidence
    tells us that a super Intelligent Agent was definitely
    involved.

    Therefore you plug your ears and shut your eyes as
    you cry out, "I have no clue as to what happened"!!

    Lol!

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 12:14:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote in message news:616n7lh9oq4pljldis5hv6c9b4hrce22am@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote:
    Samuel Spade wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    ...
    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy claimed to
    have been abducted by space aliens:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident

    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his testimony; plus, they
    all passed multiple lie detector tests!!

    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Andrew also posted a while back about some guy in China who
    was 400 years old, and that the story was ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

    What was his name please.

    Your assertion, you tell us.

    I do not recall such a thing.

    Apparently you do.

    I thought you would have some evidence.

    Apparently not, which indicates that you were lying.

    LOL. If you can't prove it, you're lying? Can I quote you
    on that?

    "I thought you would have some evidence. Apparently
    not, which indicates that you were lying."
    -Andrew, 8/11/2026

    Li Ching-Yuen was alleged to have been born in 1677.
    Died in 1933. But that would be only 256 years old.

    So I got the age wrong. It's still just as absurd.
    And you believed it.

    So there was _no_400 year old
    man tnat you said I posted about.

    You lied.

    So I lied out of forgetfulness. Were you deceived?

    Butwhatabout your lies? I did repost what you originally
    said.

    You lied that the guy lived 256 years, and was born in 1677.
    You lied that he had 23 wives and 200+ children.
    (If you didn't know better, you are very weak-minded.)

    Then you lied by saying you never said you believed it, as
    below. You made the statements, which implicitly means you
    believe yourself and are asking for the reader's belief. So,
    if you didn't believe yourself, you were lying about that.

    I thought you would have some evidence of your claims.
    Apparently not, which indicates that you were lying.


    And you believed it.

    Did I say I did?

    Yes you did. Unless you were lying about that too.

    No.

    Oh yes!

    Therefore you were lying.again!

    Another lie. Keep digging.

    Jesus tells us who your father is.

    Jesus told us that your father is Satan.

    Get thee behind me, thou fetid spawn of Satan!
    --
    "I thought you would have some evidence. Apparently
    not, which indicates that you were lying."
    -Andrew, 8/11/2026
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  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 12:26:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:115hlh9$p4hh$1@dont-email.me...

    We've been waiting on God to instantaneously heal
    any adult amputee, and especially, to have that healing
    foretold in advance by some believer, and to even have
    such occur on a live video!

    Dawn

    Here's what happened, ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    "When the Pharisees heard that Jesus had arrived, they came
    and started to argue with him. Testing him, they demanded
    that he show them a miraculous sign from heaven to prove
    his authority.

    When he heard this, he sighed deeply in his spirit and said,
    oWhy do these people keep demanding a miraculous sign?
    I tell you the truth, I will not give this generation any such
    sign.o Mk 8:11-12

    "Only an evil, adulterous generation would demand a
    miraculous sign, " Mt 16:4

    So, you're saying, it's evil and adulterous not to believe
    everything you hear. And certainly it's wicked as hell to
    doubt people who claim to be the Son of God.

    Oh, wait... somebody in this conversation once said this:

    "I thought you would have some evidence. Apparently
    not, which indicates that you were lying."

    Ring any bells?
    --
    "I thought you would have some evidence. Apparently
    not, which indicates that you were lying."
    -Andrew, 8/11/2026
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David Canzi@dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 17:25:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/11/26 16:30, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 13:19:18 -0400, David Canzi
    <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> in alt.atheism with message-id <115flin$2o9p4$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    On 8/9/26 04:06, Andrew wrote:
    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ------>>>>>>-a-a https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    Morgue staff are not qualified to determine death. That
    requires a medical test.

    That decision is not made at the morgue.

    Miracles don't exist.
    --
    David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. |
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 18:10:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 11:41:16 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <c73fS.177547$DOD1.141095@fx17.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:4j4p7l1krt0ttt2tamrn35ajrc223uvfvo@4ax.com...

    Personally I don't address the origin question
    because I have no clue as to what happened.

    You refuse to address the issue because the evidence
    tells us that a super Intelligent Agent was definitely
    involved.

    I have seen no such evidence. I am sure you have but that
    is your delusion, not mine.


    Therefore you plug your ears and shut your eyes as
    you cry out, "I have no clue as to what happened"!!

    Lol!
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 18:11:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 17:25:22 -0400, David Canzi
    <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> in alt.atheism with message-id <115ioc2$33idi$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    On 8/11/26 16:30, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 13:19:18 -0400, David Canzi
    <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <115flin$2o9p4$1@paganini.bofh.team> wrote:

    On 8/9/26 04:06, Andrew wrote:
    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ------>>>>>>aa https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    Morgue staff are not qualified to determine death. That
    requires a medical test.

    That decision is not made at the morgue.

    Of course not.


    Miracles don't exist.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 20:12:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Attila" wrote in message news:3orp7l99dvpor9r3mu0ibk6o9gg8gl9d7g@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:

    Personally I don't address the origin question
    because I have no clue as to what happened.

    You refuse to address the issue because the evidence
    tells us that a super Intelligent Agent was definitely
    involved.

    I have seen no such evidence.

    That would be difficult to do if you plug your ears,
    shut your eyes as you cry out....."I sse no evidence".
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Wed Aug 12 20:14:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Attila" wrote in message news:1rrp7l99m9tcpcj187n44s9qhl85o2gm8d@4ax.com...
    David Canzi wrote:
    Attila wrote:
    David Canzi wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ---->>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    Morgue staff are not qualified to determine death. That
    requires a medical test.

    That decision is not made at the morgue.

    Of course not.

    The man's death was determined by the medical
    professionals who sent his body to the morgue.

    But don't listen to his testimony, because he
    talks about his meeting with...the living God!

    I'm afraid that would make you uncomfortable,
    and nervous.





    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Thu Aug 13 06:19:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 20:12:57 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <UCafS.228780$UXf1.217130@fx03.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:3orp7l99dvpor9r3mu0ibk6o9gg8gl9d7g@4ax.com... >> "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:

    Personally I don't address the origin question
    because I have no clue as to what happened.

    You refuse to address the issue because the evidence
    tells us that a super Intelligent Agent was definitely
    involved.

    I have seen no such evidence.

    That would be difficult to do if you plug your ears,
    shut your eyes as you cry out....."I sse no evidence".

    As I said (and you clipped) that is your delusion, not mine.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Thu Aug 13 06:23:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 20:14:48 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <DEafS.452161$yWz9.358426@fx04.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:1rrp7l99m9tcpcj187n44s9qhl85o2gm8d@4ax.com... >> David Canzi wrote:
    Attila wrote:
    David Canzi wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ---->>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    Morgue staff are not qualified to determine death. That
    requires a medical test.

    That decision is not made at the morgue.

    Of course not.

    The man's death was determined by the medical
    professionals who sent his body to the morgue.

    Who have constantly evolving standards as exceptions to
    current standards are exposed. No system is perfect.

    Of course, if it became customary to remove the head
    immediately upon the declaration of death that would make
    the system foolproof.


    But don't listen to his testimony, because he
    talks about his meeting with...the living God!

    People lie, are delusional, or just plain wrong.


    I'm afraid that would make you uncomfortable,
    and nervous.


    Doesn't bother me a bit. You raised the issue.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David Canzi@dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca to alt.atheism on Thu Aug 13 12:29:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/11/26 15:45, Andrew wrote:
    "David Canzi" wrote in message news:115flin$2o9p4$1@paganini.bofh.team...
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ----->>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead.-a They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead.-a Mistakes are
    common.-a Miracles are rare.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks David!

    I note that you actually listened to his testimony.

    Whereas the rest of our atheist friends refused to do so.

    Because they were afraid it would challenge their
    non-theistic religion, which they hold very dear to
    themselves.

    But you were not afraid, David. Thank you for your comment!

    I listened to only a few minutes, found a bit more info from a web
    search.

    The story Ian McCormack tells us begins with him, an atheist, dying and
    going to Heaven. If that was true, there would be no need for you to
    post here. We don't need the product you're trying to sell us.
    --
    David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. |
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From David Canzi@dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca to alt.atheism on Thu Aug 13 15:37:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/11/26 15:44, Andrew wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote in message news:vvlm7l19m54o88dv7io2vcub0gm4jh4ebb@4ax.com...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote: > Samuel Spade wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    ...
    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim.-a This guy
    claimed to >> > have been abducted by space aliens:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident
    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his
    testimony; plus, they >> > all passed multiple lie detector tests!!
    Still not a believer??-a Why not??!
    Andrew also posted a while back about some guy in China who
    was 400 years old, and that the story was ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

    What was his name please.

    Your assertion, you tell us.

    I do not recall such a thing. I thought you would have
    some evidence. Apparently not, which indicates that you were lying.

    So asserting something without evidence is lying. Everybody
    should remember this accusation and your grounds for making it,
    and remind you of it now and then when appropriate.

    -a Li Ching-Yuen-a was alleged to have been born in 1677. -a Died in
    1933. But that would be only 256 years old.

    And you believed it.

    Did I say I did?-a No. Therefore you were lying.again!

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.atheism/c/u-hGy6y1XFk/m/g3Bjxg7KCAAJ

    You have to scroll up a little to see the name "Andrew" and the date
    "May 12, 2018, 10:32:27rC>AM"

    There is no way to beg, cajole or coerce GGroups into revealing more
    detail about the identity of the sender.

    I obtained the following information from giganews:

    From: "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net>
    Newsgroups: alt.atheism
    Subject: Re: They had lots of sons and daughters
    Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 07:32:47 -0700
    Message-ID: <pd6ttn$1m3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
    Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com alt.atheism:8639924

    Giganews is not a free news server. None of the free news servers
    I tried still have this old article.
    --
    David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. |
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Thu Aug 13 17:31:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/13/2026 5:19 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 20:12:57 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <UCafS.228780$UXf1.217130@fx03.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:3orp7l99dvpor9r3mu0ibk6o9gg8gl9d7g@4ax.com... >>> "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:

    Personally I don't address the origin question
    because I have no clue as to what happened.

    You refuse to address the issue because the evidence
    tells us that a super Intelligent Agent was definitely
    involved.

    I have seen no such evidence.

    That would be difficult to do if you plug your ears,
    shut your eyes as you cry out....."I sse no evidence".

    As I said (and you clipped) that is your delusion, not mine.


    "Come one, come all" -- this is Andrew's problem, and not ours! Many thousands of human beings out there claim to have been abducted by
    aliens, but as "twice nothing is still nothing", ei incumbit probatio
    qui dicit, non qui negat!

    Dawn
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  • From David Canzi@dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca to alt.atheism on Thu Aug 13 18:41:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/12/26 08:19, Andrew wrote:
    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:115hlh9$p4hh$1@dont-email.me...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "David Canzi" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

    ----->>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    --
    David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. |
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Thanks David!

    I note that you actually listened to his testimony.

    How can anyone know the is not lying?

    You never ask that to the high priests of your false
    -areligion. You believe whatever they say.

    Whereas the rest of our atheist friends refused
    -ato do so.

    Not much to listen to.

    So you refused.

    Because they were afraid it would challenge their
    non-theistic religion, which they hold very dear to
    themselves.

    Atheism is not a religion just as not collecting
    -astamps is not a hobby.

    The atheistic origins myth is an unscientific fantasy.
    Since you are a believer, it is your foolish religion!

    You have a non-theistic religion.

    But you were not afraid, David. Thank you for
    your comment!

    Afraid of what?

    Not afraid of that which could possibly challenge
    his belief system.

    If you sincerely -value- whatever the truth is, and
    if you belief you have the truth, then you are not
    afraid of any thing that could possibly challenge
    it

    We've been waiting on God to instantaneously heal
    any adult amputee, and especially, to have that healing
    foretold in advance by some believer, and to even have
    such occur on a live video!

    Dawn

    Here's what happened, ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    "When the Pharisees heard that Jesus had arrived, they came
    and started to argue with him. Testing him, they demanded
    that he show them a miraculous sign from heaven to prove
    his authority.

    When he heard this, he sighed deeply in his spirit and said,
    rCLWhy do these people keep demanding a miraculous sign?
    I tell you the truth, I will not give this generation any such sign.rCY-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Mk 8:11-12

    "Only an evil, adulterous generation would demand a
    -amiraculous sign, "-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Mt 16:4

    If you had evidence and valid reasoning on your side, you wouldn't
    need to resort to moral pressure. The ideas that are supported by
    moral pressure are the ones we should be most suspicious of.
    --
    David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. |
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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Thu Aug 13 17:15:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Attila" wrote in message news:nf6r7lp99343paivl30rkcp72hl3nssntv@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:

    Personally I don't address the origin question
    because I have no clue as to what happened.

    You refuse to address the issue because the evidence
    tells us that a super Intelligent Agent was definitely
    involved.

    I have seen no such evidence.

    That would be difficult to do if you plug your ears,
    shut your eyes as you cry out..."I sse no evidence".

    As I said (and you clipped) that is your delusion,
    not mine.

    The "evidence" I refer to is no "delusion". But rather
    rock solid science.


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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Thu Aug 13 17:17:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "David Canzi" wrote in message news:115krch$3cnvb$1@paganini.bofh.team...
    Andrew wrote:
    "David Canzi" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God
    ----->>> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    True story.

    The man claims that, after he woke up in the morgue, morgue
    staff told him that he had been dead for 15 to 20 minutes.
    They would not have said that he had been dead. They would
    have said that he had been mistaken for dead. Mistakes are
    common. Miracles are rare.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Thanks David!

    I note that you actually listened to his testimony.

    Whereas the rest of our atheist friends refused to do so.

    Because they were afraid it would challenge their
    non-theistic religion, which they hold very dear to
    themselves.

    But you were not afraid, David. Thank you for your comment!

    I listened to only a few minutes, . . .

    It appears that I was mistaken when
    I said, ~~ "you were not afraid".

    found a bit more info from a web search.

    The story Ian McCormack tells us begins with him, an atheist, dying and
    going to Heaven. If that was true, there would be no need for you to
    post here.

    Why not? Atheists are my friends; and they
    are all going to die, and meet their Maker..
    ......> the living God.

    Here is someone [an atheist] who actually
    had that experience! Don't you think tthat
    atheists whould be interested?

    ---->> https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr





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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Thu Aug 13 17:27:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "David Canzi" wrote in message news:115l6dq$3de51$1@paganini.bofh.team...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote:
    Samuel Spade wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    ...
    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy
    claimed to >> > have been abducted by space aliens:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident
    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his
    testimony; plus, they >> > all passed multiple lie detector tests!!
    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Andrew also posted a while back about some guy in China who
    was 400 years old, and that the story was ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

    That was a deliberate lie. I never posted about any, "400 yeear old guy".

    What was his name please.

    Your assertion, you tell us.

    I do not recall such a thing. I thought you would have
    some evidence. Apparently not, which indicates that
    you were lying.

    So asserting something without evidence is lying.

    He stated that, I posted it. That was a deliberate lie.

    He never apologized.

    Nevertheless, I forgive the old man.

    Everybody
    should remember this accusation and your grounds for making it,
    and remind you of it now and then when appropriate.

    Li Ching-Yuen was alleged to have been born in 1677.
    Died in 1933. But that would be only 256 years old.

    And you believed it.

    Did I say I did? No. Therefore you were lying.again!

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.atheism/c/u-hGy6y1XFk/m/g3Bjxg7KCAAJ

    You have to scroll up a little to see the name "Andrew" and the date
    "May 12, 2018, 10:32:27rC>AM"

    There is no way to beg, cajole or coerce GGroups into revealing more
    detail about the identity of the sender.

    I obtained the following information from giganews:

    From: "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net>
    Newsgroups: alt.atheism
    Subject: Re: They had lots of sons and daughters
    Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 07:32:47 -0700
    Message-ID: <pd6ttn$1m3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
    Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com alt.atheism:8639924

    Giganews is not a free news server. None of the free news servers
    I tried still have this old article.

    All this work you went through, but still
    no 400 year old man that he said I posted..

    Thank you, David!




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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 02:37:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 17:15:29 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <v6tfS.326151$KyJ1.116028@fx13.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:nf6r7lp99343paivl30rkcp72hl3nssntv@4ax.com... >> "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:

    Personally I don't address the origin question
    because I have no clue as to what happened.

    You refuse to address the issue because the evidence
    tells us that a super Intelligent Agent was definitely
    involved.

    I have seen no such evidence.

    That would be difficult to do if you plug your ears,
    shut your eyes as you cry out..."I sse no evidence".

    As I said (and you clipped) that is your delusion,
    not mine.

    The "evidence" I refer to is no "delusion". But rather
    rock solid science.


    Isn't it odd that only you can see it?

    I suspect we have different definitions for "rock solid".
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    I support Flock.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 02:38:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 17:17:28 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <n8tfS.185728$xpxd.40636@fx14.ams4> wrote:

    Here is someone [an atheist] who actually
    had that experience! Don't you think tthat
    atheists whould be interested?

    No.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    I support Flock.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.atheism on Thu Aug 13 23:41:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Andrew" wrote:
    "David Canzi" wrote in message news:115l6dq$3de51$1@paganini.bofh.team...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:
    "Samuel Spade" wrote:
    Samuel Spade wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    ...
    No, he is just someone who is making an odd claim. This guy
    claimed to >> > have been abducted by space aliens:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Walton_incident
    Not only him, but his crew also substantiated his
    testimony; plus, they >> > all passed multiple lie detector tests!!
    Still not a believer?? Why not??!

    Andrew also posted a while back about some guy in China who
    was 400 years old, and that the story was ABSOLUTELY TRUE!

    That was a deliberate lie. I never posted about any, "400 yeear old guy".

    What was his name please.

    Your assertion, you tell us.

    I do not recall such a thing. I thought you would have
    some evidence. Apparently not, which indicates that
    you were lying.

    So asserting something without evidence is lying.

    In Andrewland, these things have situational relativism. If
    Andrew asserts, you can't contradict him without evidence. If
    you do the asserting, you need beaucoup of evidence.

    I sneezed this morning. I don't have any evidence, so I
    guess I must be lying. Damn!


    He stated that, I posted it. That was a deliberate lie.

    He never apologized.

    So I had his age wrong. Spank me.
    How many things did you lie about, Andrew?

    To repeat myself from upthread, in a post you ran away from:

    You lied that the guy lived 256 years, and was born in 1677.
    You lied that he had 23 wives and 200+ children.
    (If you didn't know better, you are very weak-minded.)

    Then you lied by saying you never said you believed it, as
    shown below. You made the statements, which implicitly means
    you believe yourself and are asking for the reader's belief.
    So, if you didn't believe yourself, you were lying about
    that.


    Nevertheless, I forgive the old man.

    No, you really don't. You are pissed because you were caught
    making shit up, and you'll never get over it once, let alone
    70 times 7.

    Don't worry about all that, Andrew. Everyone already knows
    you're a chronic bullshitter. One more porky is just a
    raindrop in the ocean.

    Everybody
    should remember this accusation and your grounds for making it,
    and remind you of it now and then when appropriate.

    Li Ching-Yuen was alleged to have been born in 1677.
    Died in 1933. But that would be only 256 years old.

    And you believed it.

    Did I say I did? No. Therefore you were lying.again!

    See? You lied about that, Andrew. You believed it, or at
    least you wanted everyone else to believe it.

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.atheism/c/u-hGy6y1XFk/m/g3Bjxg7KCAAJ

    You have to scroll up a little to see the name "Andrew" and the date
    "May 12, 2018, 10:32:27?AM"

    There is no way to beg, cajole or coerce GGroups into revealing more
    detail about the identity of the sender.

    I obtained the following information from giganews:

    From: "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net>
    Newsgroups: alt.atheism
    Subject: Re: They had lots of sons and daughters
    Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 07:32:47 -0700
    Message-ID: <pd6ttn$1m3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
    Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com alt.atheism:8639924

    Giganews is not a free news server. None of the free news servers
    I tried still have this old article.

    Blocknews (a near-free NSP) still has that article, and
    another one from Andrew in the thread,

    Message-ID: <pd8f4e$31ih$1@adenine.netfront.net>
    --
    "I thought you would have some evidence. Apparently
    not, which indicates that you were lying."
    -Andrew, 8/11/2026
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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 07:54:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/14/2026 1:38 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 17:17:28 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <n8tfS.185728$xpxd.40636@fx14.ams4> wrote:

    Here is someone [an atheist] who actually
    had that experience! Don't you think tthat
    atheists whould be interested?

    No.


    LOL! (It's called "opportunity cost".)
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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 07:53:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/13/2026 7:15 PM, Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote in message
    news:nf6r7lp99343paivl30rkcp72hl3nssntv@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    Personally I don't address the origin question because I have no
    clue as to what happened.

    You refuse to address the issue because the evidence tells us that
    a super Intelligent Agent was definitely involved.

    I have seen no such evidence.

    That would be difficult to do if you plug your ears, shut your eyes
    as you cry out..."I sse no evidence".

    As I said (and you clipped) that is your delusion,
    -anot mine.

    The "evidence" I refer to is no "delusion". But rather
    rock solid science.



    You have no peer-reviewed scientific papers that you can point to,
    though! And, you refuse to publish, even though you can do so at
    absolutely no charge right here:

    https://arxiv.org/

    Just by registering! But, of course, you won't and you never will; I
    have, of course, asked you to do this before.

    Dawn
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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 06:24:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:115n33k$2hof4$1@dont-email.me...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    Personally I don't address the origin question because I have no >>>>>>> clue as to what happened.

    You refuse to address the issue because the evidence tells us that >>>>>> a super Intelligent Agent was definitely involved.

    I have seen no such evidence.

    That would be difficult to do if you plug your ears, shut your eyes
    as you cry out..."I sse no evidence".

    As I said (and you clipped) that is your delusion,
    not mine.

    The "evidence" I refer to is no "delusion". But rather
    rock solid science.

    You have no peer-reviewed scientific papers that you can point to,
    though! And, you refuse to publish, even though you can do so at
    absolutely no charge right here:

    https://arxiv.org/

    Just by registering! But, of course, you won't and you never will; I
    have, of course, asked you to do this before.

    Dawn

    Hello Dawn. [you precious thing]. Please
    let me ask you this.And please answer me.

    Do not run away!

    Who wrote the instructions that are contained
    in the genetic code in the DNA of every living
    thing?

    They are instructions for the synthesis of every
    living thing. They are in the DNA...in a digital
    code format.

    So answer please. Who wrote this code, with
    out which we would not be?

    Thank you, Dawn!




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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 10:18:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 06:24:14 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <XFEfS.1388$BAea.857@fx01.ams4> wrote:

    Who wrote the instructions that are contained
    in the genetic code in the DNA of every living
    thing?

    Why do you assume any such code was deliberately written by
    some intelligence?
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    I support Flock cameras.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 10:20:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 07:54:07 -0500, Dawn Flood
    <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <115n35f$2hof4$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 8/14/2026 1:38 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 17:17:28 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <n8tfS.185728$xpxd.40636@fx14.ams4> wrote:

    Here is someone [an atheist] who actually
    had that experience! Don't you think tthat
    atheists whould be interested?

    No.


    LOL! (It's called "opportunity cost".)

    He is crazy if he thinks I am going to follow an
    unidentified link anywhere.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    I support Flock cameras.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 10:57:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Attila" wrote in message news:lq8u7llt3bnlmr7vekcb3fi1edc5eueqk9@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Who wrote the instructions that are contained
    in the genetic code in the DNA of every living
    thing?

    Why do you assume any such code was deliberately
    written by some intelligence?

    No other way. Look up the Laws of Information.

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 11:08:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Attila" wrote in message news:lv8u7ldf1c6ug41jeor7lkqpjplrg3gcu8@4ax.com...
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    Attila wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Here is someone [an atheist] who actually
    had that experience! Don't you think tthat
    atheists whould be interested?

    No.

    LOL! (It's called "opportunity cost".)

    He is crazy if he thinks I am going to
    follow an unidentified link anywhere.

    I think I warned you about going there since
    it would likely make you uncomfortable.

    And, it could be too much for you to handle.

    Although it was a true account of an atheist
    who had a remarkable experience.


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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 14:15:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 10:57:15 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <0GIfS.197518$4Ra7.135593@fx16.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:lq8u7llt3bnlmr7vekcb3fi1edc5eueqk9@4ax.com... >> "Andrew" wrote:

    Who wrote the instructions that are contained
    in the genetic code in the DNA of every living
    thing?

    Why do you assume any such code was deliberately
    written by some intelligence?

    No other way. Look up the Laws of Information.

    I see nothing that supports you.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    I support Flock cameras.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 14:16:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 11:08:58 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <%QIfS.691076$yWz9.30282@fx04.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:lv8u7ldf1c6ug41jeor7lkqpjplrg3gcu8@4ax.com... >> Dawn Flood wrote:
    Attila wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Here is someone [an atheist] who actually
    had that experience! Don't you think tthat
    atheists whould be interested?

    No.

    LOL! (It's called "opportunity cost".)

    He is crazy if he thinks I am going to
    follow an unidentified link anywhere.

    I think I warned you about going there since
    it would likely make you uncomfortable.

    Or virus infected.


    And, it could be too much for you to handle.

    Although it was a true account of an atheist
    who had a remarkable experience.


    Unsupported claims don't count.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    I support Flock cameras.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 19:07:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Attila" wrote in message news:oomu7lpi03c75shttn56ijn1dovhtslmmh@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Who wrote the instructions that are contained
    in the genetic code in the DNA of every living
    thing?

    Why do you assume any such code was deliberately
    written by some intelligence?

    No other way. Look up the Laws of Information. <-----

    I see nothing that supports you.

    Since you_refuse_to look.


    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 22:32:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/14/2026 1:16 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 11:08:58 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <%QIfS.691076$yWz9.30282@fx04.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:lv8u7ldf1c6ug41jeor7lkqpjplrg3gcu8@4ax.com... >>> Dawn Flood wrote:
    Attila wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Here is someone [an atheist] who actually
    had that experience! Don't you think tthat
    atheists whould be interested?

    No.

    LOL! (It's called "opportunity cost".)

    He is crazy if he thinks I am going to
    follow an unidentified link anywhere.

    I think I warned you about going there since
    it would likely make you uncomfortable.

    Or virus infected.


    And, it could be too much for you to handle.

    Although it was a true account of an atheist
    who had a remarkable experience.


    Unsupported claims don't count.


    I once awoke during a waking dream and saw this small 3 or 4-foot brown creature with very rough skin at the foot of my bed with an oval mouth
    that had straight teeth who was glaring at me through somewhat narrow
    eyes. I thought, "Oh, I am having a waking dream and went back to sleep."

    Dawn
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 22:42:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/14/2026 8:24 AM, Andrew wrote:
    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:115n33k$2hof4$1@dont-email.me...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    Personally I don't address the origin question because I have no >>>>>>>> clue as to what happened.

    You refuse to address the issue because the evidence tells us
    that a super Intelligent Agent was definitely involved.

    I have seen no such evidence.

    That would be difficult to do if you plug your ears, shut your eyes >>>>> as you cry out..."I sse no evidence".

    As I said (and you clipped) that is your delusion,
    not mine.

    The "evidence" I refer to is no "delusion". But rather
    rock solid science.

    You have no peer-reviewed scientific papers that you can point to,
    though!-a And, you refuse to publish, even though you can do so at
    absolutely no charge right here:

    https://arxiv.org/

    Just by registering!-a But, of course, you won't and you never will; I
    have, of course, asked you to do this before.

    Dawn

    Hello Dawn. [you precious thing]. Please let me ask you this.And please answer me.

    Do not run away!
    Who wrote the instructions that are contained
    in the genetic code in the DNA of every living
    thing?
    They are instructions for the synthesis of every
    living thing. They are in the DNA...in a digital
    code format.
    So answer please. Who wrote this code, with
    out which we would not be?

    Thank you, Dawn!


    The entity who wrote the instructions for I-cell disease:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusion-cell_disease

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Sat Aug 15 01:11:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 19:07:12 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <lRPfS.338108$h9f1.174569@fx02.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:oomu7lpi03c75shttn56ijn1dovhtslmmh@4ax.com... >> "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Who wrote the instructions that are contained
    in the genetic code in the DNA of every living
    thing?

    Why do you assume any such code was deliberately
    written by some intelligence?

    No other way. Look up the Laws of Information. <-----

    I see nothing that supports you.

    Since you_refuse_to look.

    I scanned it. Nothing there about any intelligence kicking
    everything off.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    I support Flock cameras.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.atheism on Fri Aug 14 22:45:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Dawn Flood wrote:
    On 8/14/2026 1:16 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 11:08:58 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <%QIfS.691076$yWz9.30282@fx04.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:lv8u7ldf1c6ug41jeor7lkqpjplrg3gcu8@4ax.com...
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    Attila wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Here is someone [an atheist] who actually
    had that experience! Don't you think tthat
    atheists whould be interested?

    No.

    LOL! (It's called "opportunity cost".)

    He is crazy if he thinks I am going to
    follow an unidentified link anywhere.

    I think I warned you about going there since
    it would likely make you uncomfortable.

    Or virus infected.


    And, it could be too much for you to handle.

    Although it was a true account of an atheist
    who had a remarkable experience.


    Unsupported claims don't count.


    I once awoke during a waking dream and saw this small 3 or 4-foot brown creature with very rough skin at the foot of my bed with an oval mouth
    that had straight teeth who was glaring at me through somewhat narrow
    eyes. I thought, "Oh, I am having a waking dream and went back to sleep."

    Dawn

    According to Andrew's just-invented Law of Evidence, if you
    can't show us evidence this really happened then you must be
    lying.

    As the Author of the Law, Andrew of course is exempted. You
    must prove him wrong, or be a liar.
    --
    "I thought you would have some evidence. Apparently
    not, which indicates that you were lying."
    -Andrew's Law Of Evidence, 8/11/2026
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Sat Aug 15 04:30:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:115on76$326ki$1@dont-email.me...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Dawn Flood" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    Personally I don't address the origin question because I have no >>>>>>>>> clue as to what happened.

    You refuse to address the issue because the evidence tells us >>>>>>>> that a super Intelligent Agent was definitely involved.

    I have seen no such evidence.

    That would be difficult to do if you plug your ears, shut your eyes >>>>>> as you cry out..."I sse no evidence".

    As I said (and you clipped) that is your delusion,
    not mine.

    The "evidence" I refer to is no "delusion". But rather
    rock solid science.

    You have no peer-reviewed scientific papers that you can point to,
    though! And, you refuse to publish, even though you can do so at
    absolutely no charge right here:

    https://arxiv.org/

    Just by registering! But, of course, you won't and you never will; I
    have, of course, asked you to do this before.

    Dawn

    Hello Dawn. [you precious thing]. Please
    let me ask you this.And please answer me.

    Do not run away!

    Who wrote the instructions that are contained
    in the genetic code in the DNA of every living
    thing?

    They are instructions for the synthesis of every
    living thing. They are in the DNA...in a digital
    code format.

    So answer please. Who wrote this code, with
    out which we would not be?

    Thank you, Dawn!

    I kindly asked Dawn to please answer. But no
    atheist can or will answer. Because the answer
    does not concur with their unscientific fantasies.

    Therefore they remain under deception even to
    this very day.

    Nevertheless, God loves them. Yes, every single
    one of them!



    The entity who wrote the instructions for I-cell disease:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusion-cell_disease

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Sat Aug 15 09:40:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 04:30:25 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <m5YfS.462778$aXr.438127@fx18.ams4> wrote:

    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:115on76$326ki$1@dont-email.me...
    Andrew wrote:
    "Dawn Flood" wrote:
    Andrew wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    Personally I don't address the origin question because I have no >>>>>>>>>> clue as to what happened.

    You refuse to address the issue because the evidence tells us >>>>>>>>> that a super Intelligent Agent was definitely involved.

    I have seen no such evidence.

    That would be difficult to do if you plug your ears, shut your eyes >>>>>>> as you cry out..."I sse no evidence".

    As I said (and you clipped) that is your delusion,
    not mine.

    The "evidence" I refer to is no "delusion". But rather
    rock solid science.

    You have no peer-reviewed scientific papers that you can point to,
    though! And, you refuse to publish, even though you can do so at
    absolutely no charge right here:

    https://arxiv.org/

    Just by registering! But, of course, you won't and you never will; I
    have, of course, asked you to do this before.

    Dawn

    Hello Dawn. [you precious thing]. Please
    let me ask you this.And please answer me.

    Do not run away!

    Who wrote the instructions that are contained
    in the genetic code in the DNA of every living
    thing?

    They are instructions for the synthesis of every
    living thing. They are in the DNA...in a digital
    code format.

    So answer please. Who wrote this code, with
    out which we would not be?

    Thank you, Dawn!

    I kindly asked Dawn to please answer. But no

    atheist can or will answer. Because the answer
    does not concur with their unscientific fantasies.

    I have answered your delusions several times but you prefer
    to ignore me. I see no reason to think any intelligence was
    involved.


    Therefore they remain under deception even to
    this very day.

    Nevertheless, God loves them. Yes, every single
    one of them!

    Which god? Thee seems to be so many of them.

    http://www.godchecker.com/




    The entity who wrote the instructions for I-cell disease:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusion-cell_disease

    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    I support Flock cameras.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Sat Aug 15 18:22:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Samuel Spade" wrote in message news:88bt7lh04pakugqp5a64tio0eu21gftqdk@4ax.com...

    So I had his age wrong.

    So simply apologize for your lying about me.

    Whether you do or not-> I have forgiven you.

    Spank me.

    No, you were forgiven; besides, you are a
    very old man.

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Sat Aug 15 18:23:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Attila" wrote in message news:krq08lh8n17pq1sht059kvtomjkvneo1pv@4ax.com...

    I see no reason to think any intelligence was involved.

    You think digital codes having specified instructions
    that are in DNA of all living things wrote themselves!

    And fail to see that your belief system is based upon
    ~~~~ unscientific fantasies~~~~

    I'm talking to all of you folk out there!. Wake up!!!!
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 02:17:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote in news:Gi8gS.512437$aXr.273187@fx18.ams4:

    "Attila" wrote in message
    news:krq08lh8n17pq1sht059kvtomjkvneo1pv@4ax.com...

    I see no reason to think any intelligence was involved.

    You think digital codes having specified instructions
    that are in DNA of all living things wrote themselves!



    Who wrote the DNA code for polio?

    Who wrote the DNA code for smallpox?

    Who wrote the DNA code for leprosy?


    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Sat Aug 15 19:56:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsB4A9D852E3A6B629555@185.151.15.109...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:

    I see no reason to think any intelligence was involved.

    You think digital codes having specified instructions
    that are in DNA of all living things wrote themselves!

    Who wrote the DNA code for polio?

    Who wrote the DNA code for smallpox?

    Who wrote the DNA code for leprosy?

    Devolution happened ~ after the Fall.

    Read the Bible. Tells all about it.

    But there is a plan of Salvation.

    Learn about it now.

    Before you. . . . .

    Drop dead.




    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 01:01:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 18:23:50 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <Gi8gS.512437$aXr.273187@fx18.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:krq08lh8n17pq1sht059kvtomjkvneo1pv@4ax.com...

    I see no reason to think any intelligence was involved.

    You think digital codes having specified instructions
    that are in DNA of all living things wrote themselves!

    They were a result of random selection.


    And fail to see that your belief system is based upon
    ~~~~ unscientific fantasies~~~~

    It is better than guesswork based upon fear of the unknown.


    I'm talking to all of you folk out there!. Wake up!!!!
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    I support Flock cameras.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 01:04:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 19:56:54 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <WF9gS.341226$h9f1.182459@fx02.ams4> wrote:

    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsB4A9D852E3A6B629555@185.151.15.109...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:

    I see no reason to think any intelligence was involved.

    You think digital codes having specified instructions
    that are in DNA of all living things wrote themselves!

    Who wrote the DNA code for polio?

    Who wrote the DNA code for smallpox?

    Who wrote the DNA code for leprosy?

    Devolution happened ~ after the Fall.

    According to your silly superstition. I have no such fear
    of the unknown.


    Read the Bible. Tells all about it.

    Unverified guesswork and hopeful thinking.


    But there is a plan of Salvation.

    Whatever that is. It seems to vary a lot except it is
    always vague as to details.


    Learn about it now.

    Before you. . . . .

    Drop dead.

    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    I support Flock cameras.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.atheism on Sat Aug 15 22:20:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:

    "Samuel Spade" wrote in message news:88bt7lh04pakugqp5a64tio0eu21gftqdk@4ax.com...

    So I had his age wrong.
    How many things did you lie about, Andrew?

    To repeat myself from upthread, in a post you ran away from:

    You lied that the guy lived 256 years, and was born in 1677.
    You lied that he had 23 wives and 200+ children.
    (If you didn't know better, you are very weak-minded.)

    Then you lied by saying you never said you believed it, as
    shown below. You made the statements, which implicitly means
    you believe yourself and are asking for the reader's belief.
    So, if you didn't believe yourself, you were lying about
    that.

    Well, Andrew?

    Are you ready to stop crying and apologize to everyone?

    Nevertheless, I forgive the old man.

    No, you really don't. You are pissed because you were caught
    making shit up, and you'll never get over it once, let alone
    70 times 7.

    So simply apologize for your lying about me.

    You've got to be kidding.

    Are you still trying to convince us this guy lived 256 years?

    Spank me.

    No, you were forgiven; besides, you are a
    very old man.

    But i'm not 256 yet. Are you?
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 02:55:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Attila" wrote in message news:4vg28ldtoo9puqudafpbvg55iq5mcvkge4@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:

    I see no reason to think any intelligence was involved.

    You think digital codes having specified instructions
    that are in DNA of all living things wrote themselves!

    They were a result of random selection.

    Would that be based on observable science, OR..
    merely based on your ~~ unscientific fantasy~~?

    You fail to see that your belief system is based
    upon ~unscientific fantasies~ and NOT science.


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  • From Ordatious@order@order.invalid to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 11:36:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:12:06 -0700, Andrew wrote:

    He was an ungodly atheist. He died and meet God.

    Two quotes that have been attributed to the following:

    "Positive claims require positive evidence.
    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

    --Carl Sagan

    "What can be asserted without evidence,
    can be dismissed without evidence."

    --Christopher Hitchens

    Hearsay is definitely not evidence, neither are assertions which can not
    be repeated or be investigated in a proper, scientific manner.

    Or are you saying you are willing to be put to death and come back to
    prove a point?

    Good luck with that! Let me know when you return.

    I claim bullshit on that story.
    --
    Order! Order in the group!
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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 09:30:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 02:55:20 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <cOfgS.725481$yWz9.167370@fx04.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:4vg28ldtoo9puqudafpbvg55iq5mcvkge4@4ax.com... >> "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:

    I see no reason to think any intelligence was involved.

    You think digital codes having specified instructions
    that are in DNA of all living things wrote themselves!

    They were a result of random selection.

    Would that be based on observable science, OR..
    merely based on your ~~ unscientific fantasy~~?

    Based upon the current biological knowledge as far as I
    know. I do know science has never said any mysterious
    intelligence ws involved with anything anywhere.


    You fail to see that your belief system is based
    upon ~unscientific fantasies~ and NOT science.


    Your's is based upon belief and you think if you believe
    hard enough that will create reality It won't.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    I support Flock cameras.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
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  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 14:06:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote in news:cOfgS.725481$yWz9.167370@fx04.ams4:

    "Attila" wrote in message
    news:4vg28ldtoo9puqudafpbvg55iq5mcvkge4@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:

    I see no reason to think any intelligence was involved.

    You think digital codes having specified instructions
    that are in DNA of all living things wrote themselves!

    They were a result of random selection.

    Would that be based on observable science, OR..
    merely based on your ~~ unscientific fantasy~~?

    You fail to see that your belief system is based
    upon ~unscientific fantasies~ and NOT science.





    "The vast bulk of real scientists in the world
    know that the "goo to you" story is a phantasy."
    Andrew, unproven claim, Nov 5, 2016
    http://tinyurl.com/gtw66jf
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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 10:16:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Attila" wrote in message news:3me38ld2dq05pjmg0dqs971jj4m92bg6d1@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:

    I see no reason to think any intelligence was involved.

    You think digital codes having specified instructions
    that are in DNA of all living things wrote themselves!

    They were a result of random selection.

    Would that be based on observable science, OR..
    merely based on your ~~ unscientific fantasy~~?

    Based upon the current biological knowledge
    as far as I know.

    Unfortunately you are unable to cite anything
    based on observable science. So you revert to
    unscientific fantasy.

    I do know science has never said any mysterious
    intelligence ws involved with anything anywhere.

    So you think that although the Apollo Project sent
    humans to the Moon, "no intelligence was involved"
    to accomplish this!

    The truth is that, intelligence was indeed required in
    every step of the process..Which means that you have
    been woefully deceived!!

    You fail to see that your belief system is based
    upon ~unscientific fantasies~ and NOT science.

    Your's is based upon belief and you think if you believe
    hard enough that will create reality It won't.

    Evidence tells us that an intelligence would be required
    to place the specified instructions to synthesize a living
    thing, inside of a DNA molecule.









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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 10:35:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Ordatious" wrote in message news:qhhgS.53575$BAea.21887@fx01.ams4...
    Andrew wrote:

    He was an ungodly atheist. He died and meet God.

    Two quotes that have been attributed to the following:

    "Positive claims require positive evidence.
    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

    --Carl Sagan

    "What can be asserted without evidence,
    can be dismissed without evidence."

    --Christopher Hitchens

    Hearsay is definitely not evidence, neither are assertions which can not
    be repeated or be investigated in a proper, scientific manner.

    Or are you saying you are willing to be put to death and come back to
    prove a point?

    No, I simply posted his testimony.

    https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr

    He was an ungodly atheist.

    He was pronounced dead
    by medical professionals.

    They sent his body to the
    morgue

    He claims to have met the
    Living God..after he died!

    If this is too heavy for you,
    then just don't listen to it!

    No atheist here has had
    enough courage to listen
    to the whole thing!

    It was just too much for
    them.

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  • From Vincent Maycock@maycock@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 14:44:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 10:16:23 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:3me38ld2dq05pjmg0dqs971jj4m92bg6d1@4ax.com... >> "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:

    I see no reason to think any intelligence was involved.

    You think digital codes having specified instructions
    that are in DNA of all living things wrote themselves!

    They were a result of random selection.

    Would that be based on observable science, OR..
    merely based on your ~~ unscientific fantasy~~?

    Based upon the current biological knowledge
    as far as I know.

    Unfortunately you are unable to cite anything
    based on observable science. So you revert to
    unscientific fantasy.

    You are unable to cite any observable evidence of your fantasized
    imaginary friend Jesus creating anything at all. If he creates
    things, why don't we ever see him creating them?

    I do know science has never said any mysterious
    intelligence ws involved with anything anywhere.

    So you think that although the Apollo Project sent
    humans to the Moon, "no intelligence was involved"
    to accomplish this!

    We could see astronauts propelling the Apollo rockets into space. We
    see no such thing with your Jesus. And metal and rocket fuel don't
    evolve on their own, unlike living things.

    The truth is that, intelligence was indeed required in
    every step of the process..Which means that you have
    been woefully deceived!!

    Some things require intelligence. You have not shown that living
    things are among them.

    You fail to see that your belief system is based
    upon ~unscientific fantasies~ and NOT science.

    Your's is based upon belief and you think if you believe
    hard enough that will create reality It won't.

    Evidence tells us

    What evidence "tells us" this?

    that an intelligence would be required
    to place the specified instructions to synthesize a living
    thing, inside of a DNA molecule.

    No, specified instructions can evolve quite easily, as long as there's selection pressure for that to occur.
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  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 13:13:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Ordatious" wrote in message news:qhhgS.53575$BAea.21887@fx01.ams4...
    Andrew wrote:

    He was an ungodly atheist. He died and meet God.

    Two quotes that have been attributed to the following:

    "Positive claims require positive evidence.
    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

    --Carl Sagan

    "What can be asserted without evidence,
    can be dismissed without evidence."

    --Christopher Hitchens

    Hearsay is definitely not evidence, neither are assertions which can not be repeated or be investigated in a proper, scientific manner.

    Or are you saying you are willing to be put to death and come back to prove a point?

    No, I simply posted his testimony.

    https://tinyurl.com/3v4pubrr


    Do you believe all the testimony presented in the video?



    He was an ungodly atheist.

    He was pronounced dead
    by medical professionals.

    They sent his body to the
    morgue

    He claims to have met the
    Living God..after he died!

    If this is too heavy for you,
    then just don't listen to it!

    No atheist here has had
    enough _______ to listen
    to the whole thing!


    Multiple choice fill-in-the-blank quiz!

    a. gullibility
    b. courage
    c. curiousity
    d. time to waste
    e. vulnerability to ~fantasy~


    It was just too much for
    them.
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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 17:49:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 10:16:23 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <HfmgS.443783$la89.285080@fx06.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:3me38ld2dq05pjmg0dqs971jj4m92bg6d1@4ax.com... >> "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:

    I see no reason to think any intelligence was involved.

    You think digital codes having specified instructions
    that are in DNA of all living things wrote themselves!

    They were a result of random selection.

    Would that be based on observable science, OR..
    merely based on your ~~ unscientific fantasy~~?

    Based upon the current biological knowledge
    as far as I know.

    Unfortunately you are unable to cite anything
    based on observable science. So you revert to
    unscientific fantasy.

    No, I simply don't bother keeping up with all new
    discoveries. So little time so much to do.

    Absence of proof that something exists does not suggest that
    it does exist


    I do know science has never said any mysterious
    intelligence ws involved with anything anywhere.

    So you think that although the Apollo Project sent
    humans to the Moon, "no intelligence was involved"
    to accomplish this!

    I don't recall any mysterious intelligence claims.


    The truth is that, intelligence was indeed required in
    every step of the process..Which means that you have
    been woefully deceived!!

    Just ordinary human intelligence. Nothing from outside.


    You fail to see that your belief system is based
    upon ~unscientific fantasies~ and NOT science.

    Your's is based upon belief and you think if you believe
    hard enough that will create reality It won't.

    Evidence tells us that an intelligence would be required
    to place the specified instructions to synthesize a living
    thing, inside of a DNA molecule.


    Or random chance created the instructions that resulted in
    life. Since it was successful it is still around. There is
    nothing to indicate outside influence was involved.
    --

    DSA - Demented Suicidal Absurd

    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?

    I support ending birthright citizenship

    I support Flock cameras.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    AA 966
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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 18:46:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/15/2026 9:56 PM, Andrew wrote:
    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsB4A9D852E3A6B629555@185.151.15.109...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    I see no reason to think any intelligence was involved.

    You think digital codes having specified instructions
    that are in DNA of all living things wrote themselves!

    -a Who wrote the DNA code for polio?

    -a Who wrote the DNA code for smallpox?

    -a Who wrote the DNA code for leprosy?

    Devolution happened ~ after the Fall.

    Read the Bible. Tells all about it.

    But there is a plan of Salvation.

    Learn about it now.

    Before you. . . . .

    Drop dead.


    When did the Fall happen? Was it before or after the demise of the
    (large) dinosaurs?
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  • From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 18:48:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 8/15/2026 12:45 AM, Samuel Spade wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    On 8/14/2026 1:16 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 11:08:58 -0700, "Andrew"
    <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <%QIfS.691076$yWz9.30282@fx04.ams4> wrote:

    "Attila" wrote in message news:lv8u7ldf1c6ug41jeor7lkqpjplrg3gcu8@4ax.com...
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    Attila wrote:
    "Andrew" wrote:

    Here is someone [an atheist] who actually
    had that experience! Don't you think tthat
    atheists whould be interested?

    No.

    LOL! (It's called "opportunity cost".)

    He is crazy if he thinks I am going to
    follow an unidentified link anywhere.

    I think I warned you about going there since
    it would likely make you uncomfortable.

    Or virus infected.


    And, it could be too much for you to handle.

    Although it was a true account of an atheist
    who had a remarkable experience.


    Unsupported claims don't count.


    I once awoke during a waking dream and saw this small 3 or 4-foot brown
    creature with very rough skin at the foot of my bed with an oval mouth
    that had straight teeth who was glaring at me through somewhat narrow
    eyes. I thought, "Oh, I am having a waking dream and went back to sleep." >>
    Dawn

    According to Andrew's just-invented Law of Evidence, if you
    can't show us evidence this really happened then you must be
    lying.

    As the Author of the Law, Andrew of course is exempted. You
    must prove him wrong, or be a liar.



    I feel like I am being gaslighted! (LOL!)

    Dawn

    P.S. Not by you, of course!
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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Sun Aug 16 17:50:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:m5148l1epe5offfqmjb8725rdvdkor7aou@4ax.com...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    <<>>
    Evidence tells us that an intelligence would be required
    to place the specified instructions to synthesize a living
    thing, inside of a DNA molecule.

    No, specified instructions can evolve quite easily, as
    long as there's selection pressure for that to occur.

    But they must exist before they can do any evolving..
    Only in your unscientific fantasies could they evolve
    themselves into existence.


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  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to alt.atheism on Mon Aug 17 02:31:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in news:115ti4c$iv2g$2@dont- email.me:

    On 8/15/2026 9:56 PM, Andrew wrote:
    "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
    news:XnsB4A9D852E3A6B629555@185.151.15.109...
    "Andrew" wrote:
    "Attila" wrote:
    I see no reason to think any intelligence was involved.

    You think digital codes having specified instructions
    that are in DNA of all living things wrote themselves!

    -a Who wrote the DNA code for polio?

    -a Who wrote the DNA code for smallpox?

    -a Who wrote the DNA code for leprosy?

    Devolution happened ~ after the Fall.

    Read the Bible. Tells all about it.

    But there is a plan of Salvation.

    Learn about it now.

    Before you. . . . .

    Drop dead.


    When did the Fall happen? Was it before or after the demise of the
    (large) dinosaurs?



    Watch this space for the usual
    "It's in the Bible somewhere, read
    your Bible" non-response.


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