• Re: Texas Fascists Dictate Christianity

    From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.atheism on Sat Jun 27 23:36:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 6/27/26 10:45, Scott Hoge wrote:
    On 2026-06-27, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:

    | Texas' education board on Friday approved a required reading
    | list for more than 5 million public school students that
    | includes Bible stories, widening conservative efforts to
    | bring Christian teachings into U.S. classrooms.
    | ...
    | The State Board of Education, which is controlled by
    | Republicans, approved the list on a 9-5 vote following weeks
    | of contentious debate that again put Texas at the center of
    | wrangling over the role of religion in public schools. Last
    | year, Texas became the largest state to require teachers to
    | hang the Ten Commandments in every classroom.
    | ...
    <https://apnews.com/article/texas-education-board-reading-list
    -bible-vote-eb6ea9e23e303da0ca2da6132889e020>

    Because, (scientifically illiterate cowboy accent), "Heee is
    the Lahw-rrrd."

    I don't have much use for Jeezus Junkies any more
    than the Jihadists. Extremes are extremes, fanatics
    are fanatics, crusaders are crusaders.

    NEVER works out well.

    Of course the jihadists are, right now, far more likely
    to KILL you if you don't bow ...

    Still ... SO interesting how some say it's a-OK to
    push the gay/tranny/anti-Xian 'religion' onto all
    the kiddies and then bitch about Christians.

    If it's divisive, creates a zillion little 'identity'
    groups and sets them at each others throats, then
    the Left just LOVES it. Been their plan since the
    early 1900s and they're STILL at it.

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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.atheism on Sun Jun 28 08:38:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 23:36:03 -0400, c186282
    <c186282@nnada.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <Hvmcnaf8Nf0lC933nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:

    On 6/27/26 10:45, Scott Hoge wrote:
    On 2026-06-27, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:

    | Texas' education board on Friday approved a required reading
    | list for more than 5 million public school students that
    | includes Bible stories, widening conservative efforts to
    | bring Christian teachings into U.S. classrooms.
    | ...
    | The State Board of Education, which is controlled by
    | Republicans, approved the list on a 9-5 vote following weeks
    | of contentious debate that again put Texas at the center of
    | wrangling over the role of religion in public schools. Last
    | year, Texas became the largest state to require teachers to
    | hang the Ten Commandments in every classroom.
    | ...
    <https://apnews.com/article/texas-education-board-reading-list
    -bible-vote-eb6ea9e23e303da0ca2da6132889e020>

    Because, (scientifically illiterate cowboy accent), "Heee is
    the Lahw-rrrd."

    I don't have much use for Jeezus Junkies any more
    than the Jihadists. Extremes are extremes, fanatics
    are fanatics, crusaders are crusaders.

    NEVER works out well.

    Of course the jihadists are, right now, far more likely
    to KILL you if you don't bow ...

    Still ... SO interesting how some say it's a-OK to
    push the gay/tranny/anti-Xian 'religion' onto all
    the kiddies and then bitch about Christians.

    If it's divisive, creates a zillion little 'identity'
    groups and sets them at each others throats, then
    the Left just LOVES it. Been their plan since the
    early 1900s and they're STILL at it.

    I wonder what will happen to it when it hits the Supreme
    Court - which it will since it is a clear case of religious
    indoctrination.
    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?


    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.
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  • From Scott Hoge@nospam@nospam.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.atheism on Mon Jun 29 02:10:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 2026-06-28, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

    On 6/27/26 10:45, Scott Hoge wrote:

    Because, (scientifically illiterate cowboy accent), "Heee is
    the Lahw-rrrd."

    I don't have much use for Jeezus Junkies any more than the
    Jihadists. Extremes are extremes, fanatics are fanatics,
    crusaders are crusaders.

    I don't see a problem with Christianity in its more charitable
    forms. Some Christians are just extremely nice people. It's the
    stupid ones who try to set the rules for everyone else who in
    doing so enable injustice on the basis of a compensating
    "afterlife."

    [...]

    Still ... SO interesting how some say it's a-OK to push the gay/tranny/anti-Xian 'religion' onto all the kiddies and then
    bitch about Christians.

    If it's divisive, creates a zillion little 'identity' groups
    and sets them at each others throats, then the Left just LOVES
    it. Been their plan since the early 1900s and they're STILL at
    it.

    That's Zuckerberg's problem. He doesn't seem to care what the
    fuck he's doing to the world.

    Although I consider myself a leftist, I don't think leftists
    should huddle together in their echo chambers and kick out anyone
    who disagrees with them. If you think someone's wrong, you might
    as well step forward and not be a coward about it.

    -- Scott Hoge
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.atheism on Mon Jun 29 00:36:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 6/28/26 08:38, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 23:36:03 -0400, c186282
    <c186282@nnada.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <Hvmcnaf8Nf0lC933nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:

    On 6/27/26 10:45, Scott Hoge wrote:
    On 2026-06-27, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:

    | Texas' education board on Friday approved a required reading
    | list for more than 5 million public school students that
    | includes Bible stories, widening conservative efforts to
    | bring Christian teachings into U.S. classrooms.
    | ...
    | The State Board of Education, which is controlled by
    | Republicans, approved the list on a 9-5 vote following weeks
    | of contentious debate that again put Texas at the center of
    | wrangling over the role of religion in public schools. Last
    | year, Texas became the largest state to require teachers to
    | hang the Ten Commandments in every classroom.
    | ...
    <https://apnews.com/article/texas-education-board-reading-list
    -bible-vote-eb6ea9e23e303da0ca2da6132889e020>

    Because, (scientifically illiterate cowboy accent), "Heee is
    the Lahw-rrrd."

    I don't have much use for Jeezus Junkies any more
    than the Jihadists. Extremes are extremes, fanatics
    are fanatics, crusaders are crusaders.

    NEVER works out well.

    Of course the jihadists are, right now, far more likely
    to KILL you if you don't bow ...

    Still ... SO interesting how some say it's a-OK to
    push the gay/tranny/anti-Xian 'religion' onto all
    the kiddies and then bitch about Christians.

    If it's divisive, creates a zillion little 'identity'
    groups and sets them at each others throats, then
    the Left just LOVES it. Been their plan since the
    early 1900s and they're STILL at it.

    I wonder what will happen to it when it hits the Supreme
    Court - which it will since it is a clear case of religious
    indoctrination.

    Mmmmmm ... might depend on the details of how it's
    all implemented.

    Noting that religions exist, quoting various 'scriptural'
    lines and historical info that clarify their positions on
    things ... that is 'education'.

    Texas ... MORE likely to trend towards 'indoctrination'
    however. Still lots of people who think the USA is a
    "Christian Nation" rather than a nation that just happens
    to have a lot of Christians.

    Our Founders were wise about this - had seen all sorts of
    evils. Modern westerners have never experienced religious
    imperialism, no Inquisition and 'jihad' is "over there"
    somewhere. Little girls being hung from cranes in the
    Tehran public square ... won't make the MSM or, even
    worse, be heavily 'revised' and 'sanitized'.

    SOME know about Soviet efforts to obliterate religions so
    the State would be the Highest Moral Authority.

    In short you can easily go nuts with indoctrination OR
    anti-indoctrination. Extremism creeps in from both ends.

    Hey, if this was an EASY balance then it'd have all been
    solved hundreds or thousands of years ago.

    As for the USSC ... despite political bullshit the majority
    stick fairly close to 'original intent' - which means that
    anything that looks like an indoctrination program will
    have to go or be seriously modified. Govt should just
    stay out of the religion biz.

    OR were you even interested in the Bigger Picture stuff here ?
    Just looking to throw shit at the USSC maybe ? Gotta wonder
    these days.

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.atheism on Mon Jun 29 00:59:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On 6/28/26 22:10, Scott Hoge wrote:
    On 2026-06-28, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

    On 6/27/26 10:45, Scott Hoge wrote:

    Because, (scientifically illiterate cowboy accent), "Heee is
    the Lahw-rrrd."

    I don't have much use for Jeezus Junkies any more than the
    Jihadists. Extremes are extremes, fanatics are fanatics,
    crusaders are crusaders.

    I don't see a problem with Christianity in its more charitable
    forms.
    Ummm ... the 'charitable forms' are only a RECENT
    trend.

    Going Full Xian Jihad was the norm for a long time.
    Read up on what the Jesuits did in S.America, on
    what the Good Christians did to US Native kids.
    "Christianization" via threat and lash was just
    accepted as a Good Thing, even by US courts and
    authorities, up into the 1950s.

    Read up on what Xian/Mormon 'missionaries' are still
    doing in rural India.

    Any pressures, or slack, and the 'recent trend' can
    easily REVERSE. The modern slack in the USA and EU
    only happened because the countries became rich and
    fat and content - felt safe.

    But 'evangelical' religions - Their Truth is the ONLY
    Truth and you WILL be converted even if it kills you.
    Christianity wasn't SUPPOSED to be that way, but very
    quickly DID.

    Hindu used to be pretty tolerant - UNTIL the Moslems
    started invading. NOW it's much more militant.

    Buddhism is not really 'evangelical' - indeed it some
    ways it's not even a 'religion ... more a proposed
    How-To guide to 'enlightenment'. Most of the old
    Chinese religions were not 'evangelical' either.

    OR are you not really interested in any Big Picture stuff ?

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  • From Attila@prochoice@here.now to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.atheism on Mon Jun 29 05:13:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 00:36:00 -0400, c186282
    <c186282@nnada.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <VaKcnStYBtSFa9z3nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:

    On 6/28/26 08:38, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 23:36:03 -0400, c186282
    <c186282@nnada.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <Hvmcnaf8Nf0lC933nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:

    On 6/27/26 10:45, Scott Hoge wrote:
    On 2026-06-27, Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:

    | Texas' education board on Friday approved a required reading
    | list for more than 5 million public school students that
    | includes Bible stories, widening conservative efforts to
    | bring Christian teachings into U.S. classrooms.
    | ...
    | The State Board of Education, which is controlled by
    | Republicans, approved the list on a 9-5 vote following weeks
    | of contentious debate that again put Texas at the center of
    | wrangling over the role of religion in public schools. Last
    | year, Texas became the largest state to require teachers to
    | hang the Ten Commandments in every classroom.
    | ...
    <https://apnews.com/article/texas-education-board-reading-list
    -bible-vote-eb6ea9e23e303da0ca2da6132889e020>

    Because, (scientifically illiterate cowboy accent), "Heee is
    the Lahw-rrrd."

    I don't have much use for Jeezus Junkies any more
    than the Jihadists. Extremes are extremes, fanatics
    are fanatics, crusaders are crusaders.

    NEVER works out well.

    Of course the jihadists are, right now, far more likely
    to KILL you if you don't bow ...

    Still ... SO interesting how some say it's a-OK to
    push the gay/tranny/anti-Xian 'religion' onto all
    the kiddies and then bitch about Christians.

    If it's divisive, creates a zillion little 'identity'
    groups and sets them at each others throats, then
    the Left just LOVES it. Been their plan since the
    early 1900s and they're STILL at it.

    I wonder what will happen to it when it hits the Supreme
    Court - which it will since it is a clear case of religious
    indoctrination.

    Mmmmmm ... might depend on the details of how it's
    all implemented.

    If it requires one religion it is illegal. All must be
    equally available as well as none.


    Noting that religions exist, quoting various 'scriptural'
    lines and historical info that clarify their positions on
    things ... that is 'education'.

    Texas ... MORE likely to trend towards 'indoctrination'
    however. Still lots of people who think the USA is a
    "Christian Nation" rather than a nation that just happens
    to have a lot of Christians.

    The D of L is frequently quoted but that document has
    nothing to do with organizing the structure of the US. The
    Constitution says nothing about any particular superstition
    other than to ban a state religion.


    Our Founders were wise about this - had seen all sorts of
    evils. Modern westerners have never experienced religious
    imperialism, no Inquisition and 'jihad' is "over there"
    somewhere. Little girls being hung from cranes in the
    Tehran public square ... won't make the MSM or, even
    worse, be heavily 'revised' and 'sanitized'.

    SOME know about Soviet efforts to obliterate religions so
    the State would be the Highest Moral Authority.

    In short you can easily go nuts with indoctrination OR
    anti-indoctrination. Extremism creeps in from both ends.

    Hey, if this was an EASY balance then it'd have all been
    solved hundreds or thousands of years ago.

    As for the USSC ... despite political bullshit the majority
    stick fairly close to 'original intent' - which means that
    anything that looks like an indoctrination program will
    have to go or be seriously modified. Govt should just
    stay out of the religion biz.

    That is what the Constitution requires. Which would include
    any government function including education. No part of any
    particular superstition should be encouraged or required by
    any law.


    OR were you even interested in the Bigger Picture stuff here ?
    Just looking to throw shit at the USSC maybe ? Gotta wonder
    these days.
    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. Those that are
    here illegally should be afraid.
    Be very afraid. It does not matter
    how long you have been here. It does
    not matter why you are here. It does not
    matter what you have done legally while you
    were here. It does not matter what any
    relative may have done while you were here.
    It only matters that you are here illegally.
    It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
    but we will find you and we will deport you.
    Be prepared.

    Deport them all.

    Due process:
    Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
    the documentation to establish that?


    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2