• Becoming Christian, Is Raping Children All That Necessary?

    From President Trump@sdaa@sedra.org to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sat Jun 27 16:30:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Why Are American Christians So Cruel?
    The Jesus Principle
    Apr 23, 2026

    A few weeks ago, I watched a clip of self-described oBible-believingo Christians cheering a politician who promised mass deportations, expanded detention camps, and harsher treatment for asylum seekers, including
    families with children. The crowd roared like they were at a revival. Hands
    in the air. Smiles on their faces.
    Man holding microphone with 'jesus' displayed behind him.
    Photo by AMONWAT DUMKRUT on Unsplash

    I had a sick thought I couldnAt shake:

    If you muted the sound and just watched the faces, could you tell whether
    this was a worship service or a rally for state cruelty?

    Why do so many American Christians u not all, but a loud, powerful bloc u
    now seem to choose cruelty as a badge of faith? Why does the oChristian positiono in public life so often line up with the hardest, harshest, least merciful option on the table?

    The numbers behind that question arenAt pretty.
    The numbers: punishment over mercy

    This isnAt just a hunch. ItAs documented.

    Survey after survey shows that white evangelicals, in particular, stand out
    as the religious group most likely to:

    Support bans or severe limits on refugees and migrants, even when
    theyAre fleeing war and persecution.

    Back harsh olaw and ordero crackdowns, detention, and deportation policies, even when abuses are well-documented.

    Endorse militarized responses framed as holy duty, especially when
    wrapped in the language of defending oChristian civilizationo or a ochosen nation.o

    Recent polling on Christian nationalism finds that majorities of its
    strongest supporters favor expanding ICE, allowing arrests in osensitive locationso like churches and hospitals, and even detaining undocumented immigrants in internment camps. In those same surveys, they are the group
    most likely to oppose basic due process for immigrants.

    In other words, cruelty isnAt an accident at the edges. ItAs built into the way a certain slice of American Christianity thinks about law, borders, and enemies.

    So how did we get here?
    Thunder without light: an angry God, a frightened church

    One big piece is what IAd call theology by scissors, or cutting the Bible
    into usable parts and discarding the rest.

    In this cruel version of the faith, God is imagined primarily as:

    A stern lawgiver who protects ouso and punishes othem.o

    The patron of a chosen nation locked in permanent holy war.

    The cosmic enforcer whose main job is making sure people oget whatAs coming.o

    Old judgment and conquest texts are ripped from context and treated like a timeless model for how America should act now. Meanwhile, the most
    demanding teachings about loving enemies, welcoming strangers, and caring
    for the vulnerable are treated as private ideals, not public obligations.

    Preaching that fixates on eternal torment and divine rage only amplifies
    this. If your core image of God is eternal torture for most of humanity, it becomes easier to justify extreme punishment here and now. If God is
    imagined as infinitely violent toward his enemies, state cruelty looks like
    a small foretaste of justice, not a betrayal of it.

    The older scriptures themselves are not the problem; theyAre full of
    commands to love the stranger, defend the widow and orphan, and care for
    the poor. The problem is reading them as a blank check for whatever we
    already want to do, especially to people we fear.
    white page of book
    Photo by Susan Holt Simpson on Unsplash
    The passage that wonAt behave

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this kind of religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are divided into
    two groups. The criteria are devastatingly concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told theyAve done it to him. Those who didnAt are told theyAve turned away from him.

    ThereAs no clause that says ounless they crossed the border wrong.o
    No footnote that says ounless your party disapproved.o
    No escape hatch that says othis isnAt about real policy, just private charity.o

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public ethics, a lot of our current oChristiano agenda falls apart. You cannot honestly square cheering for internment camps or omaking life so hard they self-deporto with this picture of what God actually cares about.

    ThatAs why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel Christianity, turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a measuring stick for what kind of politics is even compatible with faith.
    A God who always needs enemies

    Cruelty doesnAt grow out of nowhere. It grows out of a certain picture of
    the world.

    If your God:

    Always needs a hated out-group to rally the faithful,

    Speaks mainly in terms of toughness, conquest, and oorder,o

    Is imagined as the patron of your tribe and the destroyer of everyone else,

    your faith will train you to look for people to punish.

    Christian nationalism formalizes this: oGod and countryo fused so tightly
    that whatever is said to protect our nation becomes holy by definition.

    Research on white Christian nationalism shows that the stronger a personAs attachment to this ideology, the more likely they are to hold hardline
    views on immigration, oppose multiracial democracy, and support using force
    to preserve their preferred social order. It often carries an assumption
    that oreal Americanso are white, culturally conservative Christians, and
    that others should be kept in their place.

    ThatAs how we ended up with:

    Pastors blessing harsh immigration raids and family separation as obiblical justice.o

    oPro-lifeo leaders ignoring or defending policies that predictably increase death and misery for migrants, prisoners, women,and the poor.

    Christian media personalities ridiculing empathy as weakness,
    owokeness,o or Marxism.

    Once youAve baptized the nation and your groupAs dominance as sacred,
    anything that protects that dominance u no matter how cruel u starts to
    feel righteous.
    President Donald Trump
    Photo by Library of Congress on Unsplash
    Trump as teacher: discipling against empathy

    Into that world walked Donald Trump.

    For years now, he has modeled and rewarded open contempt for empathy:

    Mocking the disabled and the grieving.

    Praising humiliation and domination as leadership.

    Treating compassion for outsiders as betrayal.

    Analysts have described how his style has helped many Christians
    reinterpret empathy itself as dangerous: something osoft,o oliberal,o or ounpatriotic.o The harsher he is to the people they fear, the more ocourageouso they find him.

    When that sensibility merges with a fearful, punitive theology, believers start to think that caring deeply about what happens to migrants,
    prisoners, or enemy civilians means ogoing soft on sino or ohating your own people.o

    WeAve reached the point where some will cheer proposals that most of their grandparentsA churches would have recognized instantly as cruel, and then insist theyAre doing it in the name of faith and country, and in the name
    of Jesus.

    That isnAt just politics. ThatAs moral formation.
    Old stories, new weapons

    Again: the older scriptures arenAt the culprit. ItAs how theyAre being
    used.

    Read ancient conquest stories as timeless blueprints instead of time-bound episodes, and youAll bless every modern war you want as a holy crusade.

    Camp out in wrath texts without letting them be challenged by the most demanding calls to mercy, and youAll assume anger should always flow
    outward at othem,o never inward at ous.o

    Treat oobey the authoritieso as the only political verse that matters, and youAll justify almost any cruelty the state labels olaw and order,o even
    when it clashes with the clearest commands to protect the vulnerable.

    The result is a kind of religion that has plenty of verses, but very little moral spine. It can always find a text to bless whatever the tribe already wants to do.
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  • From Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Mon Jun 29 02:33:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this kind of religion: >Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are divided into >two groups. The criteria are devastatingly concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told theyAve done it to him. Those who didnAt are told >theyAve turned away from him.

    ThereAs no clause that says ounless they crossed the border wrong.o
    No footnote that says ounless your party disapproved.o
    No escape hatch that says othis isnAt about real policy, just private >charity.o

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public ethics, a lot of our >current oChristiano agenda falls apart. You cannot honestly square cheering >for internment camps or omaking life so hard they self-deporto with this >picture of what God actually cares about.

    ThatAs why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel Christianity, turned >into a vague fundraising verse, not a measuring stick for what kind of >politics is even compatible with faith.
    A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty
    and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited
    me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked
    after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.A

    37 oThen the righteous will answer him, aLord, when did we see you
    hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing
    clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?A

    40 oThe King will reply, aTruly I tell you, whatever you did for one
    of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.A

    41 oThen he will say to those on his left, aDepart from me, you who
    are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his
    angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and
    you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and
    you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look
    after me.A

    44 oThey also will answer, aLord, when did we see you hungry or
    thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did
    not help you?A

    45 oHe will reply, aTruly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one
    of the least of these, you did not do for me.A

    46 oThen they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to
    eternal life.o

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&version=NIV>
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  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Mon Jun 29 13:52:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this kind of
    religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are divided
    into two groups. The criteria are devastatingly concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told theyAve done it to him. Those who didnAt are
    told theyAve turned away from him.

    ThereAs no clause that says ounless they crossed the border wrong.o
    No footnote that says ounless your party disapproved.o
    No escape hatch that says othis isnAt about real policy, just private >>charity.o

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public ethics, a lot
    of our current oChristiano agenda falls apart. You cannot honestly
    square cheering for internment camps or omaking life so hard they >>self-deporto with this picture of what God actually cares about.

    ThatAs why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel Christianity,
    turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a measuring stick for what
    kind of politics is even compatible with faith.
    A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty
    and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited
    me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked
    after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.A

    37 oThen the righteous will answer him, aLord, when did we see you
    hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing
    clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?A

    40 oThe King will reply, aTruly I tell you, whatever you did for one
    of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.A

    41 oThen he will say to those on his left, aDepart from me, you who
    are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his
    angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and
    you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and
    you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look
    after me.A

    44 oThey also will answer, aLord, when did we see you hungry or
    thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did
    not help you?A

    45 oHe will reply, aTruly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one
    of the least of these, you did not do for me.A

    46 oThen they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.o

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&version=NIV>



    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"





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  • From Skeeter@invalid@none.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Mon Jun 29 09:14:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    In article <XnsB47A58D9A5C36629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this kind of >>religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are divided
    into two groups. The criteria are devastatingly concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told they?ve done it to him. Those who didn?t are
    told they?ve turned away from him.

    There?s no clause that says ?unless they crossed the border wrong.?
    No footnote that says ?unless your party disapproved.?
    No escape hatch that says ?this isn?t about real policy, just private >>charity.?

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public ethics, a lot
    of our current ?Christian? agenda falls apart. You cannot honestly
    square cheering for internment camps or ?making life so hard they >>self-deport? with this picture of what God actually cares about.

    That?s why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel Christianity, >>turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a measuring stick for what >>kind of politics is even compatible with faith.
    A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty
    and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited
    me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked
    after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.?

    37 ?Then the righteous will answer him, ?Lord, when did we see you
    hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing
    clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you??

    40 ?The King will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one
    of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.?

    41 ?Then he will say to those on his left, ?Depart from me, you who
    are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his
    angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and
    you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and
    you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look
    after me.?

    44 ?They also will answer, ?Lord, when did we see you hungry or
    thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did
    not help you??

    45 ?He will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one
    of the least of these, you did not do for me.?

    46 ?Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.?

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&version=NIV>



    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"

    Like YOU know so much.
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  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Tue Jun 30 02:16:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.44ac39c76a677cd98c332@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47A58D9A5C36629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this kind of
    religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are
    divided into two groups. The criteria are devastatingly concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told they?ve done it to him. Those who didn?t are
    told they?ve turned away from him.

    There?s no clause that says ?unless they crossed the border wrong.?
    No footnote that says ?unless your party disapproved.?
    No escape hatch that says ?this isn?t about real policy, just
    private charity.?

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public ethics, a
    lot of our current ?Christian? agenda falls apart. You cannot
    honestly square cheering for internment camps or ?making life so
    hard they self-deport? with this picture of what God actually cares
    about.

    That?s why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel
    Christianity, turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a
    measuring stick for what kind of politics is even compatible with
    faith. A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty
    and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you
    invited me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked
    after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.?

    37 ?Then the righteous will answer him, ?Lord, when did we see you
    hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing
    clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you??

    40 ?The King will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did for
    one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for
    me.?

    41 ?Then he will say to those on his left, ?Depart from me, you who
    are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his
    angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty
    and you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes
    and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not
    look after me.?

    44 ?They also will answer, ?Lord, when did we see you hungry or
    thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and
    did not help you??

    45 ?He will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for
    one of the least of these, you did not do for me.?

    46 ?Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous
    to eternal life.?

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&version=N




    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"

    Like YOU know so much.


    More than you.




    "Man is the one who went unclean
    and ate the wrong things. Man wanted
    to rule so god gave him the world
    and said live in the world and die or
    live in me and live. Man chose the
    world".
    Skeeter, Aug 15 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9rvj5k

    None of that is in the Bible.





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  • From Skeeter@invalid@none.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Mon Jun 29 20:27:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    In article <XnsB47AD71122B29629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.44ac39c76a677cd98c332@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47A58D9A5C36629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this kind of
    religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are
    divided into two groups. The criteria are devastatingly concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told they?ve done it to him. Those who didn?t are
    told they?ve turned away from him.

    There?s no clause that says ?unless they crossed the border wrong.?
    No footnote that says ?unless your party disapproved.?
    No escape hatch that says ?this isn?t about real policy, just
    private charity.?

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public ethics, a
    lot of our current ?Christian? agenda falls apart. You cannot
    honestly square cheering for internment camps or ?making life so
    hard they self-deport? with this picture of what God actually cares
    about.

    That?s why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel
    Christianity, turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a
    measuring stick for what kind of politics is even compatible with
    faith. A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty
    and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you
    invited me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked
    after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.?

    37 ?Then the righteous will answer him, ?Lord, when did we see you
    hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing
    clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you??

    40 ?The King will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did for
    one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for
    me.?

    41 ?Then he will say to those on his left, ?Depart from me, you who
    are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his
    angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty
    and you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes
    and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not
    look after me.?

    44 ?They also will answer, ?Lord, when did we see you hungry or
    thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and
    did not help you??

    45 ?He will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for
    one of the least of these, you did not do for me.?

    46 ?Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous
    to eternal life.?

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&version=N




    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"

    Like YOU know so much.


    More than you.




    "Man is the one who went unclean
    and ate the wrong things. Man wanted
    to rule so god gave him the world
    and said live in the world and die or
    live in me and live. Man chose the
    world".
    Skeeter, Aug 15 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9rvj5k

    None of that is in the Bible.

    It is.













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  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Tue Jun 30 13:10:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.44acd79877b6569d98c357@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47AD71122B29629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44ac39c76a677cd98c332@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47A58D9A5C36629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this kind of
    religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are
    divided into two groups. The criteria are devastatingly
    concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told they?ve done it to him. Those who didn?t
    are told they?ve turned away from him.

    There?s no clause that says ?unless they crossed the border
    wrong.? No footnote that says ?unless your party disapproved.?
    No escape hatch that says ?this isn?t about real policy, just
    private charity.?

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public ethics, a
    lot of our current ?Christian? agenda falls apart. You cannot
    honestly square cheering for internment camps or ?making life so
    hard they self-deport? with this picture of what God actually
    cares about.

    That?s why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel
    Christianity, turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a
    measuring stick for what kind of politics is even compatible
    with faith. A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and
    you invited me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you
    looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.?

    37 ?Then the righteous will answer him, ?Lord, when did we see
    you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to
    drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing
    clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you??

    40 ?The King will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did for
    one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did
    for me.?

    41 ?Then he will say to those on his left, ?Depart from me, you
    who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and
    his angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed
    clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and
    you did not look after me.?

    44 ?They also will answer, ?Lord, when did we see you hungry or
    thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison,
    and did not help you??

    45 ?He will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do
    for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.?

    46 ?Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the
    righteous to eternal life.?

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&versio
    n=N IV>



    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"

    Like YOU know so much.


    More than you.




    "Man is the one who went unclean
    and ate the wrong things. Man wanted
    to rule so god gave him the world
    and said live in the world and die or
    live in me and live. Man chose the
    world".
    Skeeter, Aug 15 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9rvj5k

    None of that is in the Bible.

    It is.


    There is a reason you run away every time
    I ask you for a Bible passage proving that.



    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Skeeter@invalid@none.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Tue Jun 30 08:19:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    In article <XnsB47B51BC01321629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.44acd79877b6569d98c357@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47AD71122B29629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44ac39c76a677cd98c332@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47A58D9A5C36629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this kind of
    religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are
    divided into two groups. The criteria are devastatingly
    concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told they?ve done it to him. Those who didn?t
    are told they?ve turned away from him.

    There?s no clause that says ?unless they crossed the border
    wrong.? No footnote that says ?unless your party disapproved.?
    No escape hatch that says ?this isn?t about real policy, just
    private charity.?

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public ethics, a
    lot of our current ?Christian? agenda falls apart. You cannot
    honestly square cheering for internment camps or ?making life so
    hard they self-deport? with this picture of what God actually
    cares about.

    That?s why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel
    Christianity, turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a
    measuring stick for what kind of politics is even compatible
    with faith. A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and
    you invited me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you
    looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.?

    37 ?Then the righteous will answer him, ?Lord, when did we see
    you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to
    drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing
    clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you??

    40 ?The King will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did for
    one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did
    for me.?

    41 ?Then he will say to those on his left, ?Depart from me, you
    who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and
    his angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed
    clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and
    you did not look after me.?

    44 ?They also will answer, ?Lord, when did we see you hungry or
    thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison,
    and did not help you??

    45 ?He will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do
    for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.?

    46 ?Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the
    righteous to eternal life.?

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&versio
    n=N IV>



    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"

    Like YOU know so much.


    More than you.




    "Man is the one who went unclean
    and ate the wrong things. Man wanted
    to rule so god gave him the world
    and said live in the world and die or
    live in me and live. Man chose the
    world".
    Skeeter, Aug 15 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9rvj5k

    None of that is in the Bible.

    It is.


    There is a reason you run away every time
    I ask you for a Bible passage proving that.

    Is there? Maybe it because you are a non believer and it's
    a waste of time.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Tue Jun 30 17:39:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.44ad7e6fc0867c6798c35b@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47B51BC01321629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44acd79877b6569d98c357@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47AD71122B29629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44ac39c76a677cd98c332@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47A58D9A5C36629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this kind
    of religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are
    divided into two groups. The criteria are devastatingly
    concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told they?ve done it to him. Those who
    didn?t are told they?ve turned away from him.

    There?s no clause that says ?unless they crossed the border
    wrong.? No footnote that says ?unless your party
    disapproved.? No escape hatch that says ?this isn?t about
    real policy, just private charity.?

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public
    ethics, a lot of our current ?Christian? agenda falls apart.
    You cannot honestly square cheering for internment camps or
    ?making life so hard they self-deport? with this picture of
    what God actually cares about.

    That?s why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel
    Christianity, turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a
    measuring stick for what kind of politics is even compatible
    with faith. A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger
    and you invited me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you
    looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.?

    37 ?Then the righteous will answer him, ?Lord, when did we
    see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you
    something to drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or
    needing clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit
    you??

    40 ?The King will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did
    for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine,
    you did for me.?

    41 ?Then he will say to those on his left, ?Depart from me,
    you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the
    devil and his angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed
    clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison
    and you did not look after me.?

    44 ?They also will answer, ?Lord, when did we see you hungry
    or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in
    prison, and did not help you??

    45 ?He will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do
    for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.?

    46 ?Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the
    righteous to eternal life.?

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&ver
    sio n=N IV>



    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"

    Like YOU know so much.


    More than you.




    "Man is the one who went unclean
    and ate the wrong things. Man wanted
    to rule so god gave him the world
    and said live in the world and die or
    live in me and live. Man chose the
    world".
    Skeeter, Aug 15 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9rvj5k

    None of that is in the Bible.

    It is.


    There is a reason you run away every time
    I ask you for a Bible passage proving that.

    Is there? Maybe it because you are a non believer and it's
    a waste of time.



    If you cannot back up your claims
    just say so, we are used to it now.



    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Tue Jun 30 17:08:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 08:19:48 -0600, Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote:

    In article <XnsB47B51BC01321629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44acd79877b6569d98c357@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47AD71122B29629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44ac39c76a677cd98c332@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47A58D9A5C36629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this kind of
    religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are
    divided into two groups. The criteria are devastatingly
    concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told they?ve done it to him. Those who didn?t
    are told they?ve turned away from him.

    There?s no clause that says ?unless they crossed the border
    wrong.? No footnote that says ?unless your party disapproved.?
    No escape hatch that says ?this isn?t about real policy, just
    private charity.?

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public ethics, a
    lot of our current ?Christian? agenda falls apart. You cannot
    honestly square cheering for internment camps or ?making life so
    hard they self-deport? with this picture of what God actually
    cares about.

    That?s why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel
    Christianity, turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a
    measuring stick for what kind of politics is even compatible
    with faith. A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and
    you invited me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you
    looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.?

    37 ?Then the righteous will answer him, ?Lord, when did we see
    you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to
    drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing
    clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you??

    40 ?The King will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did for
    one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did
    for me.?

    41 ?Then he will say to those on his left, ?Depart from me, you
    who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and
    his angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed
    clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and
    you did not look after me.?

    44 ?They also will answer, ?Lord, when did we see you hungry or
    thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison,
    and did not help you??

    45 ?He will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do
    for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.?

    46 ?Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the
    righteous to eternal life.?

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&versio
    n=N IV>



    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"

    Like YOU know so much.


    More than you.




    "Man is the one who went unclean
    and ate the wrong things. Man wanted
    to rule so god gave him the world
    and said live in the world and die or
    live in me and live. Man chose the
    world".
    Skeeter, Aug 15 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9rvj5k

    None of that is in the Bible.

    It is.


    There is a reason you run away every time
    I ask you for a Bible passage proving that.

    Is there? Maybe it because you are a non believer and it's
    a waste of time.

    More likely because there's no such passage and you're just full of
    shit.
    --
    Latest from the left wing rumor mill.

    It's been a weird week: Pool Around And Pond Out edition

    <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vO_jLDzuK8Q>

    MAGA: "embrace the suck".
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Jul 1 01:56:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:pvb84l1icvdjea96tkrji088rcr6hcuk12@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 08:19:48 -0600, Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote:

    In article <XnsB47B51BC01321629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44acd79877b6569d98c357@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47AD71122B29629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44ac39c76a677cd98c332@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47A58D9A5C36629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this
    kind of religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are
    divided into two groups. The criteria are devastatingly
    concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told they?ve done it to him. Those who
    didn?t are told they?ve turned away from him.

    There?s no clause that says ?unless they crossed the border
    wrong.? No footnote that says ?unless your party
    disapproved.? No escape hatch that says ?this isn?t about
    real policy, just private charity.?

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public
    ethics, a lot of our current ?Christian? agenda falls apart.
    You cannot honestly square cheering for internment camps or
    ?making life so hard they self-deport? with this picture of
    what God actually cares about.

    That?s why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel
    Christianity, turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a
    measuring stick for what kind of politics is even compatible
    with faith. A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger
    and you invited me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you
    looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.?

    37 ?Then the righteous will answer him, ?Lord, when did we
    see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you
    something to drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or
    needing clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit
    you??

    40 ?The King will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did
    for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine,
    you did for me.?

    41 ?Then he will say to those on his left, ?Depart from me,
    you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the
    devil and his angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed
    clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison
    and you did not look after me.?

    44 ?They also will answer, ?Lord, when did we see you hungry
    or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in
    prison, and did not help you??

    45 ?He will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did not
    do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.?

    46 ?Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the
    righteous to eternal life.?

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&ve
    rsio n=N IV>



    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"

    Like YOU know so much.


    More than you.




    "Man is the one who went unclean
    and ate the wrong things. Man wanted
    to rule so god gave him the world
    and said live in the world and die or
    live in me and live. Man chose the
    world".
    Skeeter, Aug 15 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9rvj5k

    None of that is in the Bible.

    It is.


    There is a reason you run away every time
    I ask you for a Bible passage proving that.

    Is there? Maybe it because you are a non believer and it's
    a waste of time.

    More likely because there's no such passage and you're just full of
    shit.


    Watch this space for the "just read your Bible" defense.





    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Skeeter@invalid@none.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Jul 1 07:01:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    In article <XnsB47B7F550CABD629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.44ad7e6fc0867c6798c35b@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47B51BC01321629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44acd79877b6569d98c357@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47AD71122B29629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44ac39c76a677cd98c332@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47A58D9A5C36629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this kind
    of religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are
    divided into two groups. The criteria are devastatingly
    concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told they?ve done it to him. Those who
    didn?t are told they?ve turned away from him.

    There?s no clause that says ?unless they crossed the border
    wrong.? No footnote that says ?unless your party
    disapproved.? No escape hatch that says ?this isn?t about
    real policy, just private charity.?

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public
    ethics, a lot of our current ?Christian? agenda falls apart.
    You cannot honestly square cheering for internment camps or
    ?making life so hard they self-deport? with this picture of
    what God actually cares about.

    That?s why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel
    Christianity, turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a
    measuring stick for what kind of politics is even compatible
    with faith. A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger
    and you invited me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you
    looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.?

    37 ?Then the righteous will answer him, ?Lord, when did we
    see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you
    something to drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or
    needing clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit
    you??

    40 ?The King will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did
    for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine,
    you did for me.?

    41 ?Then he will say to those on his left, ?Depart from me,
    you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the
    devil and his angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed
    clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison
    and you did not look after me.?

    44 ?They also will answer, ?Lord, when did we see you hungry
    or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in
    prison, and did not help you??

    45 ?He will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do
    for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.?

    46 ?Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the
    righteous to eternal life.?

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&ver
    sio n=N IV>



    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"

    Like YOU know so much.


    More than you.




    "Man is the one who went unclean
    and ate the wrong things. Man wanted
    to rule so god gave him the world
    and said live in the world and die or
    live in me and live. Man chose the
    world".
    Skeeter, Aug 15 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9rvj5k

    None of that is in the Bible.

    It is.


    There is a reason you run away every time
    I ask you for a Bible passage proving that.

    Is there? Maybe it because you are a non believer and it's
    a waste of time.



    If you cannot back up your claims
    just say so, we are used to it now.

    TINW
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Skeeter@invalid@none.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Jul 1 07:02:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    In article <pvb84l1icvdjea96tkrji088rcr6hcuk12@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 08:19:48 -0600, Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote:

    In article <XnsB47B51BC01321629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44acd79877b6569d98c357@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47AD71122B29629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44ac39c76a677cd98c332@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47A58D9A5C36629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this kind of >> >> >> >>religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are
    divided into two groups. The criteria are devastatingly
    concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told they?ve done it to him. Those who didn?t
    are told they?ve turned away from him.

    There?s no clause that says ?unless they crossed the border
    wrong.? No footnote that says ?unless your party disapproved.?
    No escape hatch that says ?this isn?t about real policy, just
    private charity.?

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public ethics, a >> >> >> >>lot of our current ?Christian? agenda falls apart. You cannot
    honestly square cheering for internment camps or ?making life so >> >> >> >>hard they self-deport? with this picture of what God actually
    cares about.

    That?s why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel
    Christianity, turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a
    measuring stick for what kind of politics is even compatible
    with faith. A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and >> >> >> > you invited me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you
    looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.?

    37 ?Then the righteous will answer him, ?Lord, when did we see
    you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to
    drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing
    clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you??

    40 ?The King will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did for >> >> >> > one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did
    for me.?

    41 ?Then he will say to those on his left, ?Depart from me, you
    who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and >> >> >> > his angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed
    clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and
    you did not look after me.?

    44 ?They also will answer, ?Lord, when did we see you hungry or
    thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison,
    and did not help you??

    45 ?He will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do
    for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.?

    46 ?Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the
    righteous to eternal life.?

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&versio >> >> >> > n=N IV>



    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"

    Like YOU know so much.


    More than you.




    "Man is the one who went unclean
    and ate the wrong things. Man wanted
    to rule so god gave him the world
    and said live in the world and die or
    live in me and live. Man chose the
    world".
    Skeeter, Aug 15 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9rvj5k

    None of that is in the Bible.

    It is.


    There is a reason you run away every time
    I ask you for a Bible passage proving that.

    Is there? Maybe it because you are a non believer and it's
    a waste of time.

    More likely because there's no such passage and you're just full of
    shit.

    Not worded the way I said it but if you actually read the
    bible you would plainly see it.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Skeeter@invalid@none.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Jul 1 07:03:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    In article <XnsB47BD3A05AB5F629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:pvb84l1icvdjea96tkrji088rcr6hcuk12@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 08:19:48 -0600, Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote:

    In article <XnsB47B51BC01321629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44acd79877b6569d98c357@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47AD71122B29629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44ac39c76a677cd98c332@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47A58D9A5C36629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this
    kind of religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are
    divided into two groups. The criteria are devastatingly
    concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told they?ve done it to him. Those who
    didn?t are told they?ve turned away from him.

    There?s no clause that says ?unless they crossed the border
    wrong.? No footnote that says ?unless your party
    disapproved.? No escape hatch that says ?this isn?t about
    real policy, just private charity.?

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public
    ethics, a lot of our current ?Christian? agenda falls apart.
    You cannot honestly square cheering for internment camps or
    ?making life so hard they self-deport? with this picture of
    what God actually cares about.

    That?s why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel
    Christianity, turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a
    measuring stick for what kind of politics is even compatible
    with faith. A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger
    and you invited me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you
    looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.?

    37 ?Then the righteous will answer him, ?Lord, when did we
    see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you
    something to drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or
    needing clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit
    you??

    40 ?The King will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did
    for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine,
    you did for me.?

    41 ?Then he will say to those on his left, ?Depart from me,
    you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the
    devil and his angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed
    clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison
    and you did not look after me.?

    44 ?They also will answer, ?Lord, when did we see you hungry
    or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in
    prison, and did not help you??

    45 ?He will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did not
    do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.?

    46 ?Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the
    righteous to eternal life.?

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&ve
    rsio n=N IV>



    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"

    Like YOU know so much.


    More than you.




    "Man is the one who went unclean
    and ate the wrong things. Man wanted
    to rule so god gave him the world
    and said live in the world and die or
    live in me and live. Man chose the
    world".
    Skeeter, Aug 15 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9rvj5k

    None of that is in the Bible.

    It is.


    There is a reason you run away every time
    I ask you for a Bible passage proving that.

    Is there? Maybe it because you are a non believer and it's
    a waste of time.

    More likely because there's no such passage and you're just full of
    shit.


    Watch this space for the "just read your Bible" defense.

    Ublike the BUTWHATABOUT?
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Wed Jul 1 17:38:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.44aebdd072e5b9e198c363@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <pvb84l1icvdjea96tkrji088rcr6hcuk12@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 08:19:48 -0600, Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote:

    In article <XnsB47B51BC01321629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44acd79877b6569d98c357@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47AD71122B29629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44ac39c76a677cd98c332@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47A58D9A5C36629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this
    kind of religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People
    are divided into two groups. The criteria are
    devastatingly concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told they?ve done it to him. Those who
    didn?t are told they?ve turned away from him.

    There?s no clause that says ?unless they crossed the
    border wrong.? No footnote that says ?unless your party
    disapproved.? No escape hatch that says ?this isn?t about
    real policy, just private charity.?

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public
    ethics, a lot of our current ?Christian? agenda falls
    apart. You cannot honestly square cheering for internment
    camps or ?making life so hard they self-deport? with this
    picture of what God actually cares about.

    That?s why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel
    Christianity, turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a
    measuring stick for what kind of politics is even
    compatible with faith. A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I
    was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a
    stranger and you invited me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you
    looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit
    me.?

    37 ?Then the righteous will answer him, ?Lord, when did we
    see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you
    something to drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or
    needing clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit
    you??

    40 ?The King will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you
    did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of
    mine, you did for me.?

    41 ?Then he will say to those on his left, ?Depart from
    me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for
    the devil and his angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed
    clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in
    prison and you did not look after me.?

    44 ?They also will answer, ?Lord, when did we see you
    hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick
    or in prison, and did not help you??

    45 ?He will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did not
    do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.?

    46 ?Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the
    righteous to eternal life.?

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&
    versio n=N IV>



    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"

    Like YOU know so much.


    More than you.




    "Man is the one who went unclean
    and ate the wrong things. Man wanted
    to rule so god gave him the world
    and said live in the world and die or
    live in me and live. Man chose the
    world".
    Skeeter, Aug 15 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9rvj5k

    None of that is in the Bible.

    It is.


    There is a reason you run away every time
    I ask you for a Bible passage proving that.

    Is there? Maybe it because you are a non believer and it's
    a waste of time.

    More likely because there's no such passage and you're just full of
    shit.

    Not worded the way I said it but if you actually read the
    bible you would plainly see it.


    You have never read the Bible, that is
    why you cannot cite any passage backing
    up your claim.




    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Thu Jul 2 01:46:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 07:03:03 -0600, Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote:

    In article <XnsB47BD3A05AB5F629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:pvb84l1icvdjea96tkrji088rcr6hcuk12@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 08:19:48 -0600, Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote:

    In article <XnsB47B51BC01321629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44acd79877b6569d98c357@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47AD71122B29629555@185.151.15.109>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.44ac39c76a677cd98c332@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB47A58D9A5C36629555@185.151.15.118>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:oc444lt0bc8olem5a4a675vbc7t18ubfe4@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 16:30:03 -0000 (UTC), President Trump
    <sdaa@sedra.org> wrote:

    There is one passage, though, that keeps blowing up this
    kind of religion: Matthew 25.

    In that chapter, Jesus describes a final sorting. People are
    divided into two groups. The criteria are devastatingly
    concrete:

    Did you feed the hungry?

    Did you give water to the thirsty?

    Did you welcome the stranger?

    Did you clothe the poorly dressed?

    Did you visit the sick and the imprisoned?

    Those who did are told they?ve done it to him. Those who
    didn?t are told they?ve turned away from him.

    There?s no clause that says ?unless they crossed the border
    wrong.? No footnote that says ?unless your party
    disapproved.? No escape hatch that says ?this isn?t about
    real policy, just private charity.?

    If you put that text at the center of Christian public
    ethics, a lot of our current ?Christian? agenda falls apart.
    You cannot honestly square cheering for internment camps or
    ?making life so hard they self-deport? with this picture of
    what God actually cares about.

    That?s why Matthew 25 tends to be sidestepped in cruel
    Christianity, turned into a vague fundraising verse, not a
    measuring stick for what kind of politics is even compatible
    with faith. A God who always needs enemies

    35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger
    and you invited me in,

    36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you
    looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.?

    37 ?Then the righteous will answer him, ?Lord, when did we
    see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you
    something to drink?

    38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or
    needing clothes and clothe you?

    39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit
    you??

    40 ?The King will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did
    for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine,
    you did for me.?

    41 ?Then he will say to those on his left, ?Depart from me,
    you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the
    devil and his angels.

    42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was
    thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

    43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed
    clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison
    and you did not look after me.?

    44 ?They also will answer, ?Lord, when did we see you hungry
    or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in
    prison, and did not help you??

    45 ?He will reply, ?Truly I tell you, whatever you did not
    do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.?

    46 ?Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the
    righteous to eternal life.?

    <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&ve
    rsio n=N IV>



    Biblegateway is a great site, especially when the
    religious fanatics try to pass off an embarrassing
    Bible passage as "just an allegory" or a "translation
    error"

    Like YOU know so much.


    More than you.




    "Man is the one who went unclean
    and ate the wrong things. Man wanted
    to rule so god gave him the world
    and said live in the world and die or
    live in me and live. Man chose the
    world".
    Skeeter, Aug 15 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/2p9rvj5k

    None of that is in the Bible.

    It is.


    There is a reason you run away every time
    I ask you for a Bible passage proving that.

    Is there? Maybe it because you are a non believer and it's
    a waste of time.

    More likely because there's no such passage and you're just full of
    shit.


    Watch this space for the "just read your Bible" defense.

    Ublike the BUTWHATABOUT?

    Looks like he went for the fifth of Jack instead.
    --
    No I don't want a cowboy I want a cowman
    Nobody give a yeehaw like he can
    More Southern than a Georgia pecan
    Don't want a cowboy
    I want a cowman
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDcHBgVsGvE>
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Thu Jul 2 02:11:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 07:02:32 -0600, Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote: >governor.swill@gmail.com says...
    On Tue, 30 Jun Skeeter <invalid@none.com> wrote:
    noemail@aol.com says...
    <snip>
    There is a reason you run away every time
    I ask you for a Bible passage proving that.

    Is there? Maybe it because you are a non believer and it's
    a waste of time.

    More likely because there's no such passage and you're just full of
    shit.

    Not worded the way I said it but if you actually read the
    bible you would plainly see it.

    I've read it sequentially twice and read within it much, much more.

    It's a lot of words, about three quarters of a million. It takes
    weeks, even months to read it all the way through. It's said that you
    can prove almost anything by the Bible. Your problem is *you* can't
    do that. You just invoke the word "Bible" as if somehow that will
    sanctify the latest spew of sewage from your pie hole.

    I was raised Fundamentalist. Ours was a so-called "Holy Roller"
    church and though we didn't handle snakes, there were two enormous
    snake skins nailed to the wall above the pulpit. I was told they were
    pythons. Above them in the "V", God in His crimson and purple robes
    throws a thunderbolt against a backdrop of dark clouds looking not
    unlike Charleton Heston (I snit you not). Below, Jesus, surrounded by
    His indigo and golden aura, offers His hands that we might inspect
    them, presumably to make sure it's really Him.

    The Holy Trinity doesn't really work with an elongated X shape but
    human ingenuity prevailed on the right side of the skins with a puff
    of flame for the Holy Spirit and on the left with the Star of
    Bethlehem.

    When a woman fell on the floor speaking in tongues, it was not enough
    that she was wearing an ankle length skirt, over-the-calf thick socks
    and "sensible" shoes; an usher would rush forward flapping open a lap
    robe to cover her with.

    Yeah, I've read the Bible a good bit. So, what is this Bible passage
    you keep running from?
    --
    No I don't want a cowboy I want a cowman
    Nobody give a yeehaw like he can
    More Southern than a Georgia pecan
    Don't want a cowboy
    I want a cowman
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDcHBgVsGvE>
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2