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https://www.foxnews.com/media/federal-employees-accuse-usda-secretary-christian-proselytizing-holiday-emails-staff

Federal employees accuse USDA secretary of 'Christian
proselytizing' in holiday emails to staff

USDA spokesperson says they 'will keep the plaintiffs in
our prayers during this process'

. . .

Not hostile ... but they still shouldn't have
sent that mail.

OTOH ... if Usha Vance had sent them a "Krishna
Saves" mail, would they have taken such action ? :-)

The USA is a country with lots of Christians, don't
expect them to hide, but it's not, never, a
"Christian nation". That's in Amendment #1.

Our Founders knew ... but others sometimes forget
that wisdom. "Islamic states" offend us. sometimes
even "Zionist states" ... yet rather too many
Christians here wonder why we don't DO that kind
of thing.

BECAUSE !!!

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c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in news:ZhWdndNQUcFIDJv3nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/federal-employees-accuse-usda-secretary-c hristian-proselytizing-holiday-emails-staff

Federal employees accuse USDA secretary of 'Christian
proselytizing' in holiday emails to staff

USDA spokesperson says they 'will keep the plaintiffs in
our prayers during this process'

. . .

Not hostile ... but they still shouldn't have
sent that mail.

OTOH ... if Usha Vance had sent them a "Krishna
Saves" mail, would they have taken such action ? :-)

The USA is a country with lots of Christians, don't
expect them to hide, but it's not, never, a
"Christian nation". That's in Amendment #1.

Our Founders knew ... but others sometimes forget
that wisdom.

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming
feature."
-- Thomas Jefferson


"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early
in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin


"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless
strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood
for centuries."
-- James Madison


As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and
is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions
of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both
Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the
most bloody religion that ever existed? -
- John Adams, letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec 27, 1816


"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for
absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept
for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole
carloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in
Christianity."
-- John Adams


"Question with boldness even the existence of God;
because, if there be one, he must more approve of the
homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
-- Thomas Jefferson


"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish,
Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human
inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and
monopolize power and profit.
-- Thomas Paine, (1737-1809)
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On Thu, 14 May 2026 23:24:21 -0400, c186282
<c186282@nnada.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <ZhWdndNQUcFIDJv3nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com> wrote:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/federal-employees-accuse-usda-secretary-christian-proselytizing-holiday-emails-staff

Federal employees accuse USDA secretary of 'Christian
proselytizing' in holiday emails to staff

USDA spokesperson says they 'will keep the plaintiffs in
our prayers during this process'

. . .

Not hostile ... but they still shouldn't have
sent that mail.

True

OTOH ... if Usha Vance had sent them a "Krishna
Saves" mail, would they have taken such action ? :-)

The USA is a country with lots of Christians, don't
expect them to hide, but it's not, never, a
"Christian nation". That's in Amendment #1.

Our Founders knew ... but others sometimes forget
that wisdom. "Islamic states" offend us. sometimes
even "Zionist states" ... yet rather too many
Christians here wonder why we don't DO that kind
of thing.

BECAUSE !!!

--


Every person in the US is here either
legally or illegally. Those that are
here illegally should be afraid.
Be very afraid. It does not matter
how long you have been here. It does
not matter why you are here. It does not
matter what you have done legally while you
were here. It does not matter what any
relative may have done while you were here.
It only matters that you are here illegally.
It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
but we will find you and we will deport you.
Be prepared.

Deport them all.

Due process:
Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
the documentation to establish that?


All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

National Socialist American Workers Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I support:

A Constitional Amendment establishing
the Freedom of Choice.

The elimination of public expression,
display or support of religion or
religious positions.
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On Fri, 15 May 2026 13:04:22 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@aol.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <XnsB44D513DA3F56629555@185.151.15.190> wrote:

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in >news:ZhWdndNQUcFIDJv3nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/federal-employees-accuse-usda-secretary-c
hristian-proselytizing-holiday-emails-staff

Federal employees accuse USDA secretary of 'Christian
proselytizing' in holiday emails to staff

USDA spokesperson says they 'will keep the plaintiffs in
our prayers during this process'

. . .

Not hostile ... but they still shouldn't have
sent that mail.

OTOH ... if Usha Vance had sent them a "Krishna
Saves" mail, would they have taken such action ? :-)

The USA is a country with lots of Christians, don't
expect them to hide, but it's not, never, a
"Christian nation". That's in Amendment #1.

Our Founders knew ... but others sometimes forget
that wisdom.

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming
feature."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early
in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless
strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood
for centuries."
-- James Madison

As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and
is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions
of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both
Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the
most bloody religion that ever existed? -
- John Adams, letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec 27, 1816

"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for
absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept
for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole
carloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in
Christianity."
-- John Adams

"Question with boldness even the existence of God;
because, if there be one, he must more approve of the
homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish,
Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human
inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and
monopolize power and profit.
-- Thomas Paine, (1737-1809)

ARTICLE 11.

"As the government of the United States of America is not in
any sense founded on the Christian Religion . . ."

The Barbary Treaties 1786-1816
Treaty of Peace and Friendship, Signed at Tripoli November
4, 1796

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796t.asp
--


Every person in the US is here either
legally or illegally. Those that are
here illegally should be afraid.
Be very afraid. It does not matter
how long you have been here. It does
not matter why you are here. It does not
matter what you have done legally while you
were here. It does not matter what any
relative may have done while you were here.
It only matters that you are here illegally.
It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
but we will find you and we will deport you.
Be prepared.

Deport them all.

Due process:
Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
the documentation to establish that?


All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

National Socialist American Workers Party
(NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I support:

A Constitional Amendment establishing
the Freedom of Choice.

The elimination of public expression,
display or support of religion or
religious positions.
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Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in news:0l9e0lluod9suhmlmt5sas419p6r6q24tc@4ax.com:

On Fri, 15 May 2026 13:04:22 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@aol.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <XnsB44D513DA3F56629555@185.151.15.190> wrote:

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in >>news:ZhWdndNQUcFIDJv3nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/federal-employees-accuse-usda-

secretary-c

hristian-proselytizing-holiday-emails-staff

Federal employees accuse USDA secretary of 'Christian
proselytizing' in holiday emails to staff

USDA spokesperson says they 'will keep the plaintiffs in
our prayers during this process'

. . .

Not hostile ... but they still shouldn't have
sent that mail.

OTOH ... if Usha Vance had sent them a "Krishna
Saves" mail, would they have taken such action ? :-)

The USA is a country with lots of Christians, don't
expect them to hide, but it's not, never, a
"Christian nation". That's in Amendment #1.

Our Founders knew ... but others sometimes forget
that wisdom.

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming
feature."
-- Thomas Jefferson


"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early
in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin


"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless
strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood
for centuries."
-- James Madison


As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and
is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions
of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both
Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the
most bloody religion that ever existed? -
- John Adams, letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec 27, 1816


"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for
absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept
for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole
carloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in
Christianity."
-- John Adams


"Question with boldness even the existence of God;
because, if there be one, he must more approve of the
homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
-- Thomas Jefferson


"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish,
Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human
inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and
monopolize power and profit.
-- Thomas Paine, (1737-1809)

ARTICLE 11.

"As the government of the United States of America is not in
any sense founded on the Christian Religion . . ."

The Barbary Treaties 1786-1816
Treaty of Peace and Friendship, Signed at Tripoli November
4, 1796

US anbassador in London: "America has never
been at war with Islam, why do you attack our
ships and enslave our people?"

Barbary representative: "Because that is
what the Quran orders us to do. You are
unbelievers and thus infidels, enemies of
Islam"









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On 5/15/26 10:00, Attila wrote:

On Fri, 15 May 2026 13:04:22 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@aol.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <XnsB44D513DA3F56629555@185.151.15.190> wrote:

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in
news:ZhWdndNQUcFIDJv3nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/federal-employees-accuse-usda-secretary-c
hristian-proselytizing-holiday-emails-staff

Federal employees accuse USDA secretary of 'Christian
proselytizing' in holiday emails to staff

USDA spokesperson says they 'will keep the plaintiffs in
our prayers during this process'

. . .

Not hostile ... but they still shouldn't have
sent that mail.

OTOH ... if Usha Vance had sent them a "Krishna
Saves" mail, would they have taken such action ? :-)

The USA is a country with lots of Christians, don't
expect them to hide, but it's not, never, a
"Christian nation". That's in Amendment #1.

Our Founders knew ... but others sometimes forget
that wisdom.

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming
feature."
-- Thomas Jefferson


"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early
in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin


"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless
strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood
for centuries."
-- James Madison


As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and
is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions
of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both
Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the
most bloody religion that ever existed? -
- John Adams, letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec 27, 1816


"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for
absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept
for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole
carloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in
Christianity."
-- John Adams


"Question with boldness even the existence of God;
because, if there be one, he must more approve of the
homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
-- Thomas Jefferson


"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish,
Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human
inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and
monopolize power and profit.
-- Thomas Paine, (1737-1809)

ARTICLE 11.

"As the government of the United States of America is not in
any sense founded on the Christian Religion . . ."

The Barbary Treaties 1786-1816
Treaty of Peace and Friendship, Signed at Tripoli November
4, 1796

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796t.asp

Yea ... religions seem to be naught but scary fairy
tales for grown-ups ... to keep them "in line". That
came to me as a little kid, the only 'epiphany' thing
I ever experienced.

The principal US founders were sharp guys - a lot
more sharp and wise than we see these days.

Franklin did once wonder ... seeing the state of the
average Joes ... that if they were THAT bad even WITH
nominal religion, what would they be like WITHOUT it ?

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In article <XnsB44D83E3B7594629555@185.151.15.190>,
noemail@aol.com says...

Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in news:0l9e0lluod9suhmlmt5sas419p6r6q24tc@4ax.com:

On Fri, 15 May 2026 13:04:22 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@aol.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <XnsB44D513DA3F56629555@185.151.15.190> wrote:

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in >>news:ZhWdndNQUcFIDJv3nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/federal-employees-accuse-usda-

secretary-c

hristian-proselytizing-holiday-emails-staff

Federal employees accuse USDA secretary of 'Christian
proselytizing' in holiday emails to staff

USDA spokesperson says they 'will keep the plaintiffs in
our prayers during this process'

. . .

Not hostile ... but they still shouldn't have
sent that mail.

OTOH ... if Usha Vance had sent them a "Krishna
Saves" mail, would they have taken such action ? :-)

The USA is a country with lots of Christians, don't
expect them to hide, but it's not, never, a
"Christian nation". That's in Amendment #1.

Our Founders knew ... but others sometimes forget
that wisdom.

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming
feature."
-- Thomas Jefferson


"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early
in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin


"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless
strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood
for centuries."
-- James Madison


As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and
is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions
of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both
Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the
most bloody religion that ever existed? -
- John Adams, letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec 27, 1816


"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for
absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept
for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole
carloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in
Christianity."
-- John Adams


"Question with boldness even the existence of God;
because, if there be one, he must more approve of the
homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
-- Thomas Jefferson


"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish,
Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human
inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and
monopolize power and profit.
-- Thomas Paine, (1737-1809)

ARTICLE 11.

"As the government of the United States of America is not in
any sense founded on the Christian Religion . . ."

The Barbary Treaties 1786-1816
Treaty of Peace and Friendship, Signed at Tripoli November
4, 1796

US anbassador in London: "America has never
been at war with Islam, why do you attack our
ships and enslave our people?"

Barbary representative: "Because that is
what the Quran orders us to do. You are
unbelievers and thus infidels, enemies of
Islam"

Yea and?
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c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in news:AaSdnUK3GPnsM5r3nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com:

On 5/15/26 10:00, Attila wrote:

On Fri, 15 May 2026 13:04:22 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@aol.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<XnsB44D513DA3F56629555@185.151.15.190> wrote:

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in
news:ZhWdndNQUcFIDJv3nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/federal-employees-accuse-usda-secretar
y-c hristian-proselytizing-holiday-emails-staff

Federal employees accuse USDA secretary of 'Christian
proselytizing' in holiday emails to staff

USDA spokesperson says they 'will keep the plaintiffs in
our prayers during this process'

. . .

Not hostile ... but they still shouldn't have
sent that mail.

OTOH ... if Usha Vance had sent them a "Krishna
Saves" mail, would they have taken such action ? :-)

The USA is a country with lots of Christians, don't
expect them to hide, but it's not, never, a
"Christian nation". That's in Amendment #1.

Our Founders knew ... but others sometimes forget
that wisdom.

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming
feature."
-- Thomas Jefferson


"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early
in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin


"The purpose of separation of church and state is
to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless
strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood
for centuries."
-- James Madison


As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and
is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions
of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both
Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the
most bloody religion that ever existed? -
- John Adams, letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec 27, 1816


"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for
absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept
for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole
carloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in
Christianity."
-- John Adams


"Question with boldness even the existence of God;
because, if there be one, he must more approve of the
homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
-- Thomas Jefferson


"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish,
Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human
inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and
monopolize power and profit.
-- Thomas Paine, (1737-1809)

ARTICLE 11.

"As the government of the United States of America is not in
any sense founded on the Christian Religion . . ."

The Barbary Treaties 1786-1816
Treaty of Peace and Friendship, Signed at Tripoli November
4, 1796

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796t.asp

Yea ... religions seem to be naught but scary fairy
tales for grown-ups ... to keep them "in line". That
came to me as a little kid, the only 'epiphany' thing
I ever experienced.

The principal US founders were sharp guys - a lot
more sharp and wise than we see these days.

Franklin did once wonder ... seeing the state of the
average Joes ... that if they were THAT bad even WITH
nominal religion, what would they be like WITHOUT it ?

The founding fathers were well aware of the
cruelty that a "state religion" brings and
wanted nothing to do with it.



October 27, 1659
Quakers executed for religious beliefs

William Robinson and Marmaduke Stevenson, two Quakers
who came from England in 1656 to escape religious
persecution, are executed in the Massachusetts Bay
Colony for their religious beliefs. The two had
violated a law passed by the Massachusetts General
Court the year before, banning Quakers from the
colony under penalty of death. http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history.do?action=Article&id=5472





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c186282 wrote:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/federal-employees-accuse-usda-secretary-chri >stian-proselytizing-holiday-emails-staff

Federal employees accuse USDA secretary of 'Christian
proselytizing' in holiday emails to staff

USDA spokesperson says they 'will keep the plaintiffs in
our prayers during this process'

. . .

Not hostile ... but they still shouldn't have
sent that mail.

People should be forced to accept Jesus Christ as their savior or be
arrested, detained and eventually shipped away to the central African
republic where our traitors and terrorists end up thanks to the
government's recent oAmerica First in Africa.o freedom plan.

Trump got the experts in on this one. He got the approval for the program from an African named Elon.


Strange name, but no. He's never seen Ghost Busters.


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