| Sysop: | Amessyroom |
|---|---|
| Location: | Fayetteville, NC |
| Users: | 42 |
| Nodes: | 6 (0 / 6) |
| Uptime: | 00:56:30 |
| Calls: | 220 |
| Calls today: | 1 |
| Files: | 824 |
| Messages: | 121,521 |
| Posted today: | 6 |
Just to demonstrate that Dave was fishing in a small,
selective pond with his last poll, I set one up in another
Facebook community - but a more diverse one and one that has
about 90,000 members. I also allowed for a range of nuanced
thoughts rather than Dave's binary view of "you must retcon it
or you're ant-Doctor Who". Engagement was fairly low (this is,
after all, very old news now) but nevertheless ...
Two days on, here is the position:
What do you now feel about the Timeless Child narrative in
Doctor Who? (583 votes total)
It was a great addition to the lore, adding mystery and
setting up opportunities for a whole lot of new stories. 37%
(214)
It could have been a great idea but it was presented poorly.
12% (64)
We didn't need it but we've got it now so let's just move on.
23% (136)
It was a bad idea. Let's try to forget it happened. 10% (53)
It was an abomination and must be rewritten out of continuity
(retconned). 15% (91)
I don't care. 2% (9)
Timeless Child? What was that again? 1% (6)
Interestingly, almost 50% of voters LIKED at least the idea of
the Timeless Child. with 37% being very positive.
25% were neutral.
25% were negative about it, but only 15% went so far as to
demand a retcon.
Very different than what the very predominantly "old school
white male fan" pool of Ian Levine's followers believe to be
the majority case.
As an aside, in the comments, more people had negative things
to say about the "bi-generation" of RTD, than about the
Timeless Child, even though this poll never even mentioned it.
Just to demonstrate that Dave was fishing in a small, selective pond
with his last poll, I set one up in another Facebook community - but a
more diverse one and one that has about 90,000 members. I also allowed
for a range of nuanced thoughts rather than Dave's binary view of "you
must retcon it or you're ant-Doctor Who". Engagement was fairly low
(this is, after all, very old news now) but nevertheless ...
Two days on, here is the position:
What do you now feel about the Timeless Child narrative in Doctor Who?
(583 votes total)
It was a great addition to the lore, adding mystery and setting up >opportunities for a whole lot of new stories. 37% (214)
It could have been a great idea but it was presented poorly. 12% (64)
We didn't need it but we've got it now so let's just move on. 23% (136)
It was a bad idea. Let's try to forget it happened. 10% (53)
It was an abomination and must be rewritten out of continuity
(retconned). 15% (91)
I don't care. 2% (9)
Timeless Child? What was that again? 1% (6)
Interestingly, almost 50% of voters LIKED at least the idea of the
Timeless Child. with 37% being very positive.
25% were neutral.
25% were negative about it, but only 15% went so far as to demand a retcon.
Very different than what the very predominantly "old school white male
fan" pool of Ian Levine's followers believe to be the majority case.
As an aside, in the comments, more people had negative things to say
about the "bi-generation" of RTD, than about the Timeless Child, even
though this poll never even mentioned it.
--
There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible >things. Things which act against everything we believe in.
They must be /fought/.
The Last Doctor wrote:
Just to demonstrate that Dave was fishing in a small,
selective pond with his last poll, I set one up in another
Facebook community - but a more diverse one and one that has
about 90,000 members. I also allowed for a range of nuanced
thoughts rather than Dave's binary view of "you must retcon it
or you're ant-Doctor Who". Engagement was fairly low (this is,
after all, very old news now) but nevertheless ...
Two days on, here is the position:
What do you now feel about the Timeless Child narrative in
Doctor Who? (583 votes total)
It was a great addition to the lore, adding mystery and
setting up opportunities for a whole lot of new stories. 37%
(214)
It could have been a great idea but it was presented poorly.
12% (64)
We didn't need it but we've got it now so let's just move on.
23% (136)
It was a bad idea. Let's try to forget it happened. 10% (53)
It was an abomination and must be rewritten out of continuity
(retconned). 15% (91)
I don't care. 2% (9)
Timeless Child? What was that again? 1% (6)
Interestingly, almost 50% of voters LIKED at least the idea of
the Timeless Child. with 37% being very positive.
25% were neutral.
25% were negative about it, but only 15% went so far as to
demand a retcon.
Very different than what the very predominantly "old school
white male fan" pool of Ian Levine's followers believe to be
the majority case.
As an aside, in the comments, more people had negative things
to say about the "bi-generation" of RTD, than about the
Timeless Child, even though this poll never even mentioned it.
From the people I interact with in fandom, either personally via
e-mail or on forums, DM's etc, they all had a BIG problem with
the bi-generation thing... it didn't go down well at all. The
Timless Child arc, a female 13th Doctor - or Missy even - were
generally not big issues for them at all.
So we tend to get a warped viewpoint here of what the 'issues'
with Doctor Who are because Dave and Agamemnon constantly bang
on about retconning the Timeless Child... it's rammed down our
throats so much on RADW that we are blinded by the other
'issues' some people in fandom have with the show... issues that
hardly get discussed here.
The Last Doctor wrote:
Just to demonstrate that Dave was fishing in a small, selective
pond with his last poll, I set one up in another Facebook community
- but a more diverse one and one that has about 90,000 members. I
also allowed for a range of nuanced thoughts rather than Dave's
binary view of "you must retcon it or you're ant-Doctor Who".
Engagement was fairly low (this is, after all, very old news now)
but nevertheless ...
Two days on, here is the position:
What do you now feel about the Timeless Child narrative in Doctor
Who? (583 votes total)
It was a great addition to the lore, adding mystery and setting up
opportunities for a whole lot of new stories. 37% (214)
It could have been a great idea but it was presented poorly. 12%
(64)
We didn't need it but we've got it now so let's just move on. 23%
(136)
It was a bad idea. Let's try to forget it happened. 10% (53)
It was an abomination and must be rewritten out of continuity
(retconned). 15% (91)
I don't care. 2% (9)
Timeless Child? What was that again? 1% (6)
Interestingly, almost 50% of voters LIKED at least the idea of the
Timeless Child. with 37% being very positive.
25% were neutral.
25% were negative about it, but only 15% went so far as to demand a
retcon.
Very different than what the very predominantly "old school white
male fan" pool of Ian Levine's followers believe to be the majority
case.
As an aside, in the comments, more people had negative things to
say about the "bi-generation" of RTD, than about the Timeless
Child, even though this poll never even mentioned it.
From the people I interact with in fandom, either personally via
e-mail or on forums, DM's etc, they all had a BIG problem with the bi-generation thing... it didn't go down well at all.
The Timless Child arc, a female 13th Doctor - or Missy even - were
generally not big issues for them at all.
So we tend to get a warped viewpoint here of what the 'issues' with
Doctor Who are because Dave and Agamemnon constantly bang on about
retconning the Timeless Child... it's rammed down our throats so much
on RADW that we are blinded by the other 'issues' some people in
fandom have with the show... issues that hardly get discussed here.
Blueshirt wrote on 4/12/24 9:37 pm:
From the people I interact with in fandom, either personally
via e-mail or on forums, DM's etc, they all had a BIG
problem with the bi-generation thing... it didn't go down
well at all.
As we've previously (Classic Who) seen a bi-combination
Regeneration, I didn't see much of a problem with the
Bi-generation thing!!
Blueshirt wrote on 4/12/24 9:37 pm:
The Last Doctor wrote:
Just to demonstrate that Dave was fishing in a small, selective
pond with his last poll, I set one up in another Facebook community
- but a more diverse one and one that has about 90,000 members. I
also allowed for a range of nuanced thoughts rather than Dave's
binary view of "you must retcon it or you're ant-Doctor Who".
Engagement was fairly low (this is, after all, very old news now)
but nevertheless ...
Two days on, here is the position:
What do you now feel about the Timeless Child narrative in Doctor
Who? (583 votes total)
It was a great addition to the lore, adding mystery and setting up
opportunities for a whole lot of new stories. 37% (214)
It could have been a great idea but it was presented poorly. 12%
(64)
We didn't need it but we've got it now so let's just move on. 23%
(136)
It was a bad idea. Let's try to forget it happened. 10% (53)
It was an abomination and must be rewritten out of continuity
(retconned). 15% (91)
I don't care. 2% (9)
Timeless Child? What was that again? 1% (6)
Interestingly, almost 50% of voters LIKED at least the idea of the
Timeless Child. with 37% being very positive.
25% were neutral.
25% were negative about it, but only 15% went so far as to demand a
retcon.
Very different than what the very predominantly "old school white
male fan" pool of Ian Levine's followers believe to be the majority
case.
As an aside, in the comments, more people had negative things to
say about the "bi-generation" of RTD, than about the Timeless
Child, even though this poll never even mentioned it.
From the people I interact with in fandom, either personally via
e-mail or on forums, DM's etc, they all had a BIG problem with the
bi-generation thing... it didn't go down well at all.
As we've previously (Classic Who) seen a bi-combination Regeneration, I >didn't see much of a problem with the Bi-generation thing!!
The Timless Child arc, a female 13th Doctor - or Missy even - were
generally not big issues for them at all.
Nor should they have been.
So we tend to get a warped viewpoint here of what the 'issues' withYeap. Yeap. Yeap.
Doctor Who are because Dave and Agamemnon constantly bang on about
retconning the Timeless Child... it's rammed down our throats so much
on RADW that we are blinded by the other 'issues' some people in
fandom have with the show... issues that hardly get discussed here.
--
Daniel
Daniel70 wrote:
Blueshirt wrote on 4/12/24 9:37 pm:
From the people I interact with in fandom, either personally
via e-mail or on forums, DM's etc, they all had a BIG
problem with the bi-generation thing... it didn't go down
well at all.
As we've previously (Classic Who) seen a bi-combination
Regeneration, I didn't see much of a problem with the
Bi-generation thing!!
I don't think we've ever seen two people come from one person by
being 'pulled out' though have we? (As well as a second TARDIS
generated by banging the TARDIS with a hammer?!)
So I can see why some people thought it was a bit silly...
In article <xn0ou76eb16bsj2001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
Blueshirt wrote on 4/12/24 9:37 pm:
From the people I interact with in fandom, either personally
via e-mail or on forums, DM's etc, they all had a BIG
problem with the bi-generation thing... it didn't go down
well at all.
As we've previously (Classic Who) seen a bi-combination
Regeneration, I didn't see much of a problem with the
Bi-generation thing!!
I don't think we've ever seen two people come from one person by
being 'pulled out' though have we? (As well as a second TARDIS
generated by banging the TARDIS with a hammer?!)
So I can see why some people thought it was a bit silly...
Still the real 13th Doctor and the Real 14th Doctor exist.
The Doctor wrote on 5/12/24 11:14 pm:
In article <xn0ou76eb16bsj2001@post.eweka.nl>,Yes, Gobble-de-gook JodieDoctor *DOES* exist!!
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
Blueshirt wrote on 4/12/24 9:37 pm:
From the people I interact with in fandom, either personally
via e-mail or on forums, DM's etc, they all had a BIG
problem with the bi-generation thing... it didn't go down
well at all.
As we've previously (Classic Who) seen a bi-combination
Regeneration, I didn't see much of a problem with the
Bi-generation thing!!
I don't think we've ever seen two people come from one person by
being 'pulled out' though have we? (As well as a second TARDIS
generated by banging the TARDIS with a hammer?!)
So I can see why some people thought it was a bit silly...
Still the real 13th Doctor and the Real 14th Doctor exist.
--
Daniel