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dblmr,

On Sunday, August 25, 2024 8:38:31 AM MST dblmr wrote:

Good Morning,

I have a good familiarity with basic operation of emacs and git, and have dabbled in various programming languages including Perl, Shell scripting, Python and many others. My Spanish is very good, and English is my native language. I could certainly do menial programming tasks, or help with documentation or editing web pages. I love Debian software and values. If anyone would like to discuss ways I could potentially help out, feel free to email me directly.

I’m excited to read your email. It is wonderful when users of Debian want to
contribute to the project. That’s how I got started.

I would recommend that you start by looking for some aspect of Debian that you use that needs some help. For example, there may be a package that is lagging behind the upstream releases. Or, there may be some documentation on the a Debian website that needs to be improved. Or a translation that needs help.

In the case of a package, you can contact the current maintainers and ask if they would like some help. Having someone to guide you is a good way to get started. If the current maintainers are not responsive (orphaned or needing to be adopted), ask on this list for assistance with the package.

In the case of websites, many of them are Wikis, so you can get started improving them by just creating an account.

In general, I have found that working on Debian is most fulfilling when I am improving some aspect that I actively use myself.

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Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org
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On Monday, August 26th, 2024 at 2:39 PM, Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> wrote:

dblmr,

On Sunday, August 25, 2024 8:38:31 AM MST dblmr wrote:

Good Morning,

I have a good familiarity with basic operation of emacs and git, and have dabbled in various programming languages including Perl, Shell scripting, Python and many others. My Spanish is very good, and English is my native language. I could certainly do menial programming tasks, or help with documentation or editing web pages. I love Debian software and values. If anyone would like to discuss ways I could potentially help out, feel free to
email me directly.

I’m excited to read your email. It is wonderful when users of Debian want to
contribute to the project. That’s how I got started.

I would recommend that you start by looking for some aspect of Debian that you
use that needs some help. For example, there may be a package that is lagging behind the upstream releases. Or, there may be some documentation on the a Debian website that needs to be improved. Or a translation that needs help.

In the case of a package, you can contact the current maintainers and ask if they would like some help. Having someone to guide you is a good way to get started. If the current maintainers are not responsive (orphaned or needing to be adopted), ask on this list for assistance with the package.

In the case of websites, many of them are Wikis, so you can get started improving them by just creating an account.

In general, I have found that working on Debian is most fulfilling when I am improving some aspect that I actively use myself.

--
Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org

Thank you very much for the suggestions. I think they will get me going in the right direction. I think I might like to take over an orphaned package, if I could learn enough to do it. Could you give me some links to peruse, so I can get an idea of what
it takes, and whether I might be able to bring my skills up to a sufficient level to get started?

Thanks,
Mark Opie

Mark Opie

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To: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org

On Monday, August 26, 2024 7:57:56 PM MST Phil Wyett wrote:

Thank you very much for the suggestions. I think they will get me going in the right direction. I think I might like to take over an orphaned

package,

if I could learn enough to do it. Could you give me some links to peruse, so I can get an idea of what it takes, and whether I might be able to

bring

my skills up to a sufficient level to get started?

Thanks,
Mark Opie

Mark Opie

Hi,

A few to get you going.

https://www.debian.org/devel/

https://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals

https://wiki.debian.org/how-can-i-help

https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/

Regards

Phil

Phil probably assumes you have already found it because you posted to the Mentors mailing list, but in case you haven’t, you should check out the Debian
Mentors website:

https://mentors.debian.net/

--
Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org
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On Mon, 2024-08-26 at 20:43 -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:

On Monday, August 26, 2024 7:57:56 PM MST Phil Wyett wrote:

Thank you very much for the suggestions. I think they will get me going in
the right direction. I think I might like to take over an orphaned

package,

if I could learn enough to do it. Could you give me some links to peruse, so I can get an idea of what it takes, and whether I might be able to

bring

my skills up to a sufficient level to get started?

Thanks,
Mark Opie

Mark Opie

Hi,

A few to get you going.

https://www.debian.org/devel/

https://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals

https://wiki.debian.org/how-can-i-help

https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/

Regards

Phil

Phil probably assumes you have already found it because you posted to the Mentors mailing list, but in case you haven’t, you should check out the Debian
Mentors website:

https://mentors.debian.net/

Soren,

Yes, my bad on that one. :-) The Mentors site and mailing list you should
find very useful. In all your reading and experimenting, please do not
hesitate to ask questions if something requires clarification or you require general help.

Regards

Phil

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On 25/08/2024 16:38, dblmr wrote:

.... My Spanish is very good, and English is my native language. I
could certainly do menial programming tasks, or help with
documentation or editing web pages. ....

Hi Mark,

its very likely that the Spanish translation team could do with more help.
You could introduce yourself here. https://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-spanish/


Also see
https://ddtp.debian.org/ddtss/index.cgi/es


Regards,
Peter

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On 28/08/2024 09:35, dblmr wrote:

wouldn't I just find a git repository and clone it these days?

You can clone the git repository from here https://salsa.debian.org/debian/png23d


Regards,
Peter

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Copy: dblmr@proton.me (dblmr)

On Wednesday, August 28, 2024 1:35:06 AM MST dblmr wrote:

at the end of the install messages. Then I went back to the instructions,

and

it said to get the upstream source code in the form of a tar.gz file. My question is this, wouldn't I just find a git repository and clone it these days?

As was already mentioned in a different email, the source for this package is on Salsa (most Debian packages are moving that direction, but not all yet).

More generally, you can look up a package on the Debian Package Tracker, which will tell you on the left where the source code resides (if it knows).

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/png23d

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Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 08:35:06AM +0000, dblmr wrote:

So then I decided to forge ahead. I found the latest orphaned package, which was

png23d

and installed it, which seemed to work, maybe. I got the following:

Processing triggers for man-db (2.11.2-2) ...
====== How can you help? (doc: https://wiki.debian.org/how-can-i-help ) ======

New packages where help is needed, including orphaned ones (from WNPP):
- png23d - https://bugs.debian.org/1079265 - O (Orphaned)
----- Show old opportunities as well as new ones: how-can-i-help --old -----

at the end of the install messages. Then I went back to the instructions, and it said to get the upstream source code in the form of a tar.gz file. My question is this, wouldn't I just find a git repository and clone it these days?

No, Debian source packages still must include orig tarballs, and while you
can clone the upstream repo to get one it's usually suboptimal.
Also it looks like you are reading instructions for creating a new package
from scratch, which is not relevant here.

--
WBR, wRAR

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