• Tip/Tutorial of the day - Simple sbuild setup tutorial

    From Phil Wyett@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 4 08:40:02 2024
    Hi all,

    To cut through the complexity of the Debian wiki and how overwhelming it can
    be for some, I have prepared a simple tutorial for installing and setting up sbuild.

    https://wiki.kathenas.org/pmwiki.php/Kathenas/Article00000002

    I hope folks find it useful.

    Regards

    Phil

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  • From Mechtilde Stehmann@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 4 10:20:02 2024
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  • From Phil Wyett@21:1/5 to Mechtilde Stehmann on Sun Aug 4 11:30:01 2024
    On Sun, 2024-08-04 at 10:18 +0200, Mechtilde Stehmann wrote:
    Hello Phil,


    Am 04.08.24 um 08:37 schrieb Phil Wyett:
    Hi all,

    To cut through the complexity of the Debian wiki and how overwhelming it can
    be for some, I have prepared a simple tutorial for installing and setting up
    sbuild.

    https://wiki.kathenas.org/pmwiki.php/Kathenas/Article00000002

    I hope folks find it useful.


    I would prefer to get the (additionally) information at wiki.debian.org/sbuild as well.

    We need more information about the difference so we are able to decide
    which way we want to go.

    Regards

    Phil


    Regards
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    Mechtilde Stehmann
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    Hi Mechtilde,

    There is nothing additional, just a distilled tutorial giving people the
    basics of what is actually needed to get up and running. I reference sbuild
    on the Debian wiki and the sbuild manual page for those who wish to go
    further.

    Regards

    Phil

    --

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    Arthur Conan Doyle - The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans

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  • From Mechtilde Stehmann@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 4 12:20:01 2024
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  • From Phil Wyett@21:1/5 to Mechtilde Stehmann on Sun Aug 4 13:00:01 2024
    On Sun, 2024-08-04 at 12:11 +0200, Mechtilde Stehmann wrote:

    Am 04.08.24 um 11:25 schrieb Phil Wyett:
    On Sun, 2024-08-04 at 10:18 +0200, Mechtilde Stehmann wrote:
    Hello Phil,


    Am 04.08.24 um 08:37 schrieb Phil Wyett:
    Hi all,

    To cut through the complexity of the Debian wiki and how overwhelming it can
    be for some, I have prepared a simple tutorial for installing and setting up
    sbuild.

    https://wiki.kathenas.org/pmwiki.php/Kathenas/Article00000002

    I hope folks find it useful.


    I would prefer to get the (additionally) information at wiki.debian.org/sbuild as well.

    We need more information about the difference so we are able to decide which way we want to go.

    Regards


    Hi Mechtilde,

    There is nothing additional, just a distilled tutorial giving people the basics of what is actually needed to get up and running.

    We already tried to make wiki.debian.org/sbuild usable also for
    newcommers. So we want to know what is missing or unclear.

    I reference sbuild
    on the Debian wiki and the sbuild manual page for those who wish to go further.
    Regards

    --
    Mechtilde Stehmann
    ## Debian Developer
    ## PGP encryption welcome
    ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899 39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F

    Hi,

    There is nothing missing if you wish to know every way of setting up and
    using sbuild. Newcomers want a simple way to get up, running and begin
    package building.

    My solution was to create what I have on my wiki that gets people up and running with a minimum of fuss.

    Regards

    Phil

    --

    "I play the game for the game’s own sake"

    Arthur Conan Doyle - The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans

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  • From jeremy theler@21:1/5 to philip.wyett@kathenas.org on Sun Aug 4 16:50:01 2024
    As a newcomer, I have to say that Phil's instructions really helped me to
    fix non-reproducible builds in my prospect package feenox [1].
    They did really remove all the "fuss" of the wiki.

    [1] https://mentors.debian.net/package/feenox/

    --
    jeremy

    On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 7:57 AM Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> wrote:

    On Sun, 2024-08-04 at 12:11 +0200, Mechtilde Stehmann wrote:
    There is nothing additional, just a distilled tutorial giving people
    the
    basics of what is actually needed to get up and running.

    We already tried to make wiki.debian.org/sbuild usable also for
    newcommers. So we want to know what is missing or unclear.

    There is nothing missing if you wish to know every way of setting up and using sbuild. Newcomers want a simple way to get up, running and begin package building.

    My solution was to create what I have on my wiki that gets people up and running with a minimum of fuss.






    <div dir="ltr"><div>As a newcomer, I have to say that Phil&#39;s instructions really helped me to fix non-reproducible builds in my prospect package feenox [1].</div><div>They did really remove all the &quot;fuss&quot; of the wiki.</div><div><br></div><
    ┬á[1] <a href="https://mentors.debian.net/package/feenox/">https://mentors.debian.net/package/feenox/</a></div><div><br></div><div>--</div><div>jeremy<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 7:57Γ
    ǻAM Phil Wyett &lt;<a href="mailto:philip.wyett@kathenas.org">philip.wyett@kathenas.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sun, 2024-08-04
    at 12:11 +0200, Mechtilde Stehmann wrote:<br>
    &gt; &gt; There is nothing additional, just a distilled tutorial giving people the<br>
    &gt; &gt; basics of what is actually needed to get up and running. <br>
    &gt; <br>
    &gt; We already tried to make <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/sbuild" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">wiki.debian.org/sbuild</a> usable also for <br>
    &gt; newcommers. So we want to know what is missing or unclear.<br>
    &gt; <br>
    There is nothing missing if you wish to know every way of setting up and<br> using sbuild. Newcomers want a simple way to get up, running and begin<br> package building.<br>

    My solution was to create what I have on my wiki that gets people up and<br> running with a minimum of fuss.<br>




    </blockquote></div></div>

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