I have heard rumors lately of Florida Senator Ron Desantis being a member of Skull and Bones. From what I have been able to find, DeSantis was never a member of skull and bones, but was a member of the Open Secret Society (AKA Wolf's Head) as well as Scroll and Key (https://tinyurl.com/rondsb1):

"In fact, DeSantis is actually listed as a prominent former member of the “open secret society,” having participated in 2001. Should the Florida Republican run for president in 2024 and win, he would rank as the most politically powerful member to date. He may arguably be the most high-profile member already."

It seems DeSantis may not be the angel that republicans and most truthers that I have come across are making him out to be.

I have to wonder what Trumps connection to these groups are. There are plenty of people making claims that DT has a membership with Skull and Bones, but no evidence to back it. We will see as things unfold.

I have heard from many sources that members of political leadership are preselected and installed into power, regardless of how the votes are counted (if they are actually even counted). The biden election was evidence of this. Maybe its not so much that they cheat during the elections, its that the elections are just smoke and mirrors. They're putting on a show to make you think your vote counts.

Let me know what you think.
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On 06 Nov 2022, debian said the following...

I have heard rumors lately of Florida Senator Ron Desantis being a
member of Skull and Bones. From what I have been able to find, DeSantis was never a member of skull and bones, but was a member of the Open
Secret Society (AKA Wolf's Head) as well as Scroll and Key (https://tinyurl.com/rondsb1):

Typical "Frat Brat" or something more sinister? You can hardly attend such a school without joining something.

It seems DeSantis may not be the angel that republicans and most
truthers that I have come across are making him out to be.

Does being a "Pledge" damn the person?

Does any networking advantages so completely offset personal character and ability?

Is it realistic to hold out for a pledge-free candidate to champion?

I have to wonder what Trumps connection to these groups are. There are plenty of people making claims that DT has a membership with Skull and Bones, but no evidence to back it. We will see as things unfold.

Counterfactual Proofs never exist, and therefor critics of a person feel emboldened to make claims that can not be effectively disproved.

This is a logical fallacy - Hypothesis Contrary to Fact - Logically Fallacious

I have heard from many sources that members of political leadership are preselected and installed into power, regardless of how the votes are counted (if they are actually even counted). The biden election was evidence of this. Maybe its not so much that they cheat during the elections, its that the elections are just smoke and mirrors. They're putting on a show to make you think your vote counts.

A separate set of claims which break down into:

Are Political Leaders Preselected - the most correct answer would be "partially" as their "team" selects who they feel is the most likely to succeed. That team may be so powerful as to be able to "install" a vegetable in some cases. But do the two teams have a common manager or collude? Much less established.

The disjunction between cast and counted votes has become obvious and overt. There is plenty of indicators that very strong influences are built from the cummulation of many smaller steering actions.

The show aspect of elections is claimed, but we do know that without voters it is more difficult to count votes.

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Personally many folks are not joiners of frats and other groups. It does seem that they have more of a struggle than those who join in. Part of that is because they lack the network of folk who know and trust them.

Somewhat of a paradox in ways.

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I have heard from many sources that members of political leadership are preselected and installed into power, regardless of how the votes are counted (if they are actually even counted). The biden election was evidence of this. Maybe its not so much that they cheat during the elections, its that the elections are just smoke and mirrors. They're putting on a show to make you think your vote counts.

This goes back to the beginning of our history as a country. Which technically ended with George Clinton in 1999. If you look at UCC law and the rules around bankruptcy of countries you would understand that a country can only go through 3 bankruptcies and they last 80 years each. There were 8 presidents before George Washington, but he was the first Trustee of the Bankruptcy of the United States. Just like when a company goes into receivership a trustee is put in place to run the business while in bankruptcy. Same thing with all of our presidents since George Washington was elected.

I just happened to work for a George Bush Jrs personal attorneys lawfirm in 1999-2002 or so. I was invited to run the Audio Visual for a meeting with all the CEOs of every major oil and gas company in the world at the time. A lobbiest came in and basically said from this point forward we will not pay attention to the American public when it comes to making laws. You know your business, tell us what you need to be successful and we will enact it into law.

If you paid close attention during the "hanging chad" incident every single politican evacuated out of Washington DC for 18 days. During this time they were not really counting all the ballots in Florida, they were following UCC law an enacting a new government. Luckily there was a man named Russell J Gould who was trained by Daivd Wynn Millers parents on the pomp and circumstance relating to the highest levels of all governmental institutions in the United States (and ultimately the world). During those 18 days he went to the First Post Office of the United States in Philidelphia and use masonic ritual he laid claim to the Post Office and became the Post Master General for the Postal System. UCC law is considered Maritime Law. Post Offices are there to record all legal cases and all of this ends up in Bern Switzerland at the United Postal Union which is where every single Post Office in the world ultimately reports too.

Anyway, there is so much going on and we are all sitting here fighting over who we want to tell us what to do. I am not a member of the soverign rights groups nor do I want to be a soverign. But there are definitely some amazing things you can find out there to give you the full history of exactly what happened to our country and do something to actually take our government back.

Books:
Re-Inhabited by Jean Hallahan Herlter and David Carl Hertler
Anything by Anna Von Reitz

Videos:
War Castles - Which the one that helped me the most is gone now

Either way, there is plenty of information out there. Just depends on how many people actually value their freedom compared to just want a nanny state to make all of their decisions for them. Not the biggest fan of Russell J Gould, but he did things that no other person would do for humanity.

Be careful, the rabbit hole goes deep.

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On 13 Nov 2022, killer said the following...

I have heard from many sources that members of political leadership a preselected and installed into power, regardless of how the votes are counted (if they are actually even counted). The biden election was evidence of this. Maybe its not so much that they cheat during the elections, its that the elections are just smoke and mirrors. They're putting on a show to make you think your vote counts.

This goes back to the beginning of our history as a country. Which technically ended with George Clinton in 1999. If you look at UCC law
and the rules around bankruptcy of countries you would understand that a country can only go through 3 bankruptcies and they last 80 years each. There were 8 presidents before George Washington, but he was the first Trustee of the Bankruptcy of the United States. Just like when a company goes into receivership a trustee is put in place to run the business
while in bankruptcy. Same thing with all of our presidents since George Washington was elected.

More sources please.

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killer wrote to debian <=-

This goes back to the beginning of our history as a country. Which technically ended with George Clinton in 1999.

I knew Parliament Funkadelic was at the center of the Global Cabal.


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