You're like a little child.

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In recent months the Internet Archive (archive.org) has been facing legal problems from trolls who do not accept archive.org's mission to archive everything on the Internet. Archive.org is a very reputable project that aims to not have the various sites on the net be lost to time. If archive.org goes down then all of the other archival sites go down aswell. Archive.org is the primary collection of abandoned media bar none. It is the pillar, standing strong, keeping the information from ceasing to exist in our minds and in our history. If you can spare $20, or at least something, then send your donation on to the archive.org. This is a time when they actually need this help and it can make or break the existence of a project that aims to save things from literally being lost to time, or forgotten, or even forgotten that it was forgotten. If you live in a country that isn't as brutal as the one having the DMCA on their books you would do well to make a mirror of The Archive in a country with more freedoms. Something out of the Western Internet, something without draconian restrictions... some place where the legal arm of the copyright police does not reach into. I'm thinking of Seinfeld's "no soup for you" episode. These things make a powerful nation look foolish, and thanks be to the Internet you can just host your files in some other nation that has common sense, following the principle of the law rather than the letter of the law. That makes sense, being the world's copyright police does not. And if you don't like the legal mess of some of the Western nations then just get a passport, seek a VISA in some second world country, and gain the right to do whatever you feel like doing in terms of the adoptive country's copyright privileges. In a globalized world you have options of where you want to live and set up shop. So exercize that privilege and find some place to live that isn't all crazy town. After that happens don't forget projects like archive.org. Keep them in mind and help them out, as from your new location you may enable them to preserve world history in peace.

With freedom in mind,
-warmfuzzy

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Hello warmfuzzy!

In recent months the Internet Archive (archive.org) has been facing legal problems from trolls who do not accept archive.org's mission to archive everything on the Internet. Archive.org is a very reputable project that aims to not have the various sites on the net be lost to time. ...

I understand that the "problem" that archive.org is having is
primarily because they were distributing copyrighted ebooks
without permission. That's not entirely a good thing to do.
--- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
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In recent months the Internet Archive (archive.org) has been facing lega problems from trolls who do not accept archive.org's mission to archive everything on the Internet. Archive.org is a very reputable project tha aims to not have the various sites on the net be lost to time. ...

I understand that the "problem" that archive.org is having is
primarily because they were distributing copyrighted ebooks
without permission. That's not entirely a good thing to do.

It wasn't even the 'fact' that they were distributing (or - LOANING) eBooks out. For months and years that fact was OK w/ all involved - but, during Covid, when they changed it to NO LIMITS on how many people could doso at once - and offered them as actual DOWNLOADS instead of in-browser .PDFs that they piqued the interest from the copyright holders.

We aren't talking about any texts or books that currently bring in revenue - but they just poked the bear too much. And when they decided to open the flood gates they actually POSTED a blog post about how they were going to basically allow DOWNLOADS unlimited as opposed to offering in-browser LOANS to only 3 people at a time... I just can't understand why they did that; Covid wasn't some event that changed LAWS (LOL - at least in this situation...) but archive.org acted as if it were something more than it was IMO.



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The problem is very simple. If you have an archive with someone else_s content and you distribute it, then you should not make a profit from it, and especially no excess profit. You can call any torrent an archive and also demand special treatment for it. The web archive is an ordinary pirate site that claims to be a missionary. They are no better than torrents or gopher dumpsters with files.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)
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The problem is very simple. If you have an archive with someone else_s content and you distribute it, then you should not make a profit from
it, and especially no excess profit. You can call any torrent an archive and also demand special treatment for it. The web archive is an ordinary pirate site that claims to be a missionary. They are no better than torrents or gopher dumpsters with files.

They make no profit - from the content... but they were serving the content.

The only 'profit' was donations to their cause - which I suppose you could say was profit from what they were serving - but this is data that we all wanted freed. Horrible situation.



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This organization was created by Britain's largest foundation, Arcadia, and their profits from the existence of this site amount to tens of millions of US dollars annually. No one can prove that these is only donations. As I said, this is an ordinary torrent-similar site disguised as an archive, making money on the work of others without the permission of copyright holders. Everything else is lyrics and PR.
If you want to be a civil initiative, don_t earn millions of dollars on stolen content, that's the whole logic.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)
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This organization was created by Britain's largest foundation, Arcadia, and their profits from the existence of this site amount to tens of millions of US dollars annually. No one can prove that these is only donations. As I said, this is an ordinary torrent-similar site disguised as an archive, making money on the work of others without the permission of copyright holders. Everything else is lyrics and PR.
If you want to be a civil initiative, don_t earn millions of dollars on stolen content, that's the whole logic.

Data is free.



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