• Getting Safe Houses Invisible

    From warmfuzzy@700:100/37 to All on Thu Sep 8 21:55:43 2022
    I was just thinking upon how Osama Bin Laden had his residence in Pakistan a few decades ago. I thought to myself, what did OBL do right and what did he do wrong in terms of securing his sanctuary. First of all it was a compound in the middle of a military region, it had no cellular phones on site, and it was large and prominent among the other buildings in that area. So +1 for having the safe house in a large populated area, -1 for not looking like the rest of the surroundings, and +1 for not having a cell phone there. The biggest mistake was to think that he was safe in his safe house. The safe house was in an area that was surveilled by the Americans, and assuming that you are safe lowers your operational security on site. Also, there was a treasure trove of computer and video equipment. It is probable that at least some of that stuff was stored in un-encrypted format. For Linux it is recommended to use LUKS AES-256, and on Windows it is recommended to use PGP WholeDisk or VeraCrypt to secure your data. In reality though I wouldn't trust Microsoft to store my sensitive data, whether that is encrypted or not. Windows has been rumored to have hashes of certain "offensive" files that are checked whether to exist on a Windows box and if they do there is some sort of communications with Microsoft that will reveal the person who has those files with those specific signatures. The German government had a policy back in the Windows 8 day to have absolutely none of their critical systems use Windows 8 due to the fear of a yet undisclosed back door into Windows 8. Rumor has it that they're fine with Windows 10, though the status of their take on Windows 11 is unknown. Whatever the case Windows is evil and Linux is much more secure.

    Back to the commentary about safe houses, having a large concrete fort in the middle of the city with just about no one entering or leaving is suspicious.

    One thing to point out is this: if you choose to not be a terrorist, nor a criminal, nor such like that then you often don't need to worry about this sort of thing. But being innocent doesn't stop one from needing a safe house. Christian missionaries in dangerous countries need a safe house now and then. The government could be Iranian or North Korean, so in those situations even though you're a great benefit to society the government will interrogate, torture, and kill you for simply being an evangelical Christian.

    Whatever the case, weigh the positives with the negatives, stay out of trouble as far as is right in your conscience and stay safe. It is better to be proactive in terms of security setting up a safe house and maintaining it, than it is to need one and have none available.

    Cheers!
    -warmfuzzy

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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to warmfuzzy on Thu Sep 8 17:12:10 2022
    A protected refuge is something more than a safehouse. It is believed that the local intel & police were part of the protection package.

    It may be worthwhile to break down the intended use of a safe house into refuge, covert meeting, transit, communications, normal living, stay-behind, exfiltration and so on.

    Many types of safehouses are not useful a second time, or maybe usable for a different type of safehouse purpose.

    Some are unattended, some have custodians and some are protected .

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    The case in question was sort of a status-quo safehouse, where intel agencies may have known for some time the location, but chose to monitor and surveil rather than raid. Something preciptitated the raid, likely guess is a leak that the safehouse was compromised.

    Long term it is possible to fake the emmisions of normal occupancy well enough to blend in.

    Some advanced medical gear was required in this case due to health reasons, and much study was made of the detection of this gear. Snowdon's release suggests that electromechanicaly ID was studied.

    It is pretty hard to enter a safehouse a person of interest and leave it as a benign "gray man" though that sort of idea works well in movies and novels.

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  • From osito@700:100/71 to k9zw on Fri Sep 9 06:35:59 2022
    and surveil rather than raid. Something preciptitated the raid, likely

    The CIA had created a fake health clinic down the street and was covertly collecting DNA samples from all who visited. When a 'flagged' sample was detected, the raid was executed.

    osito

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