• What to do?

    From poindexter FORTRAN@700:100/20 to All on Sat Feb 22 15:05:21 2025

    Not sure where the markets are going, but they're in a handbasket.

    I'm fortunate to have real estate, 401(k)s, cash and some stocks from working at a tech company. I've got a small stash of junk silver and 1 oz. rounds I purchased over the years (oh, for silver to hit $17/oz again!)

    My 401(k)s are pretty conservative. I've been thinking about overseas real estate - I'm planning to retire in England, thought about buying something as an investment to get my money out of the US early, get a foothold over there and some rental income in the process.

    With the threat of tarriffs rippling through the economy, not sure what to do next. Battening down the hatches, so to speak makes sense. Maybe buying more precious metals? Overseas index funds? Canadian stocks?
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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Feb 24 07:56:57 2025
    On 22 Feb 2025, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...


    Not sure where the markets are going, but they're in a handbasket.

    Every major admin change and every period of intensified world stress leads to maket movements.


    I'm fortunate to have real estate, 401(k)s, cash and some stocks from working at a tech company. I've got a small stash of junk silver and 1
    oz. rounds I purchased over the years (oh, for silver to hit $17/oz again!)

    Diversification is my personal strategy, given that every single category seems to have it own cycles and lurches.

    I've been fortunate enough to be able to include enough productive long term leased investments in the mix to have some income as well as investment.

    My 401(k)s are pretty conservative. I've been thinking about overseas
    real estate - I'm planning to retire in England, thought about buying something as an investment to get my money out of the US early, get a foothold over there and some rental income in the process.

    On 401(k) lacking the context of your age and anticipated retirement expectations, best I could suggest is Age-Indexed as a starter.

    Retiring to another country is a study in and of itself.

    A real primary focus to making that work seems to be having good people connections where you want to retire. Often these end up being just professionals, the mercenaries we hire to help with with life tasks.

    A premium is if you have viable family or friends where you want to end up. Viable is important, as often we have people connections that depend on us and are otherwise not going to be helpful (or lack wisdom).

    On England specific there are some very deep issues both pro and con, to work through. You have access to some native folk (Meat, Bob Worm, Cobradille among others) via the BBS world, and some like myself who have a foothold there but are USA based.

    Even with an English wife our intention at retirement is to maintain a presence in England, but not to retire there. But that is our story.

    Feel free to email me, as I'm happy to share how we've reasoned it out.

    With the threat of tarriffs rippling through the economy, not sure what
    to do next. Battening down the hatches, so to speak makes sense. Maybe buying more precious metals? Overseas index funds? Canadian stocks?

    Should one up-end a successful investment portfolio based on media inspired fears?

    A hard question, and one I too am asking my advisors.

    On advisors, I have found is highly productive to use solid advisors and keep my ill-informed meddling fingers out of what I put them in charge of. The returns have been solid, and the diversification they can acheive much better than what I had been accomplishing prior.

    Lots to your questions!

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@700:100/20 to k9zw on Mon Feb 24 09:00:23 2025
    k9zw wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    My 401(k)s are pretty conservative. I've been thinking about overseas
    real estate - I'm planning to retire in England, thought about buying something as an investment to get my money out of the US early, get a foothold over there and some rental income in the process.

    On 401(k) lacking the context of your age and anticipated retirement expectations, best I could suggest is Age-Indexed as a starter.

    Coming up on 60 this year.

    Retiring to another country is a study in and of itself.

    Yep, looking for a tax/finance/retirement professional with experience
    in all of this.

    A real primary focus to making that work seems to be having good people connections where you want to retire. Often these end up being just professionals, the mercenaries we hire to help with with life tasks.

    Yeah, we're moving near family, with younger nephews and nieces nearby.
    Looking for a smaller town with a community feeling.

    A premium is if you have viable family or friends where you want to end up. Viable is important, as often we have people connections that
    depend on us and are otherwise not going to be helpful (or lack
    wisdom).

    On England specific there are some very deep issues both pro and con,
    to work through. You have access to some native folk (Meat, Bob Worm, Cobradille among others) via the BBS world, and some like myself who
    have a foothold there but are USA based.

    Even with an English wife our intention at retirement is to maintain a presence in England, but not to retire there. But that is our story.

    Feel free to email me, as I'm happy to share how we've reasoned it out.

    Will definitely love to hear more - we haven't totally fleshed this out
    yet.


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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Feb 24 15:20:36 2025
    On 24 Feb 2025, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

    On 401(k) lacking the context of your age and anticipated retirement expectations, best I could suggest is Age-Indexed as a starter.

    Coming up on 60 this year.

    Think age index if you intend to retire at the normal, you could split to take on more risk if you have enough other assets or if you intend to work longer.

    Retiring to another country is a study in and of itself.

    Yep, looking for a tax/finance/retirement professional with experience
    in all of this.

    There are some organizations/websites that can help with basic research.

    After those I have looked to paid professionals that service the people working for potential destination locations multinationals, and also try to establish some on the ground presence.

    A real primary focus to making that work seems to be having good peop connections where you want to retire. Often these end up being just professionals, the mercenaries we hire to help with with life tasks.

    Yeah, we're moving near family, with younger nephews and nieces nearby. Looking for a smaller town with a community feeling.

    Is that in England or stateside or? (I guess my family is spread out in four or five countries, so I have to ask about yours)

    Even with an English wife our intention at retirement is to maintain presence in England, but not to retire there. But that is our story.

    Feel free to email me, as I'm happy to share how we've reasoned it ou

    Will definitely love to hear more - we haven't totally fleshed this out yet.

    Fire away with questions. If England is a place you are targetting you need some feet-on-the-ground time there to figure stuff out. Maybe you already have an NHS number and qualify, and have a UK DL, Banking, Address?

    What I don't have an insight into I can find you resources to find out.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@700:100/20 to k9zw on Wed Feb 26 06:06:41 2025
    k9zw wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Yeah, we're moving near family, with younger nephews and nieces nearby. Looking for a smaller town with a community feeling.

    Is that in England or stateside or? (I guess my family is spread out in four or five countries, so I have to ask about yours)

    In England. We're not very close to our US family.

    Fire away with questions. If England is a place you are targetting you need some feet-on-the-ground time there to figure stuff out. Maybe you already have an NHS number and qualify, and have a UK DL, Banking, Address?

    My wife is going over there for a month in September to sort a lot of
    this out and look at a few more towns. We should hopefully be able to
    get the DL, banking and a mailing address sorted out then.

    Although she's worried about driving on the other side of the road. I
    drove in England for the first time last summer, I plan on getting a ridiculously small car when I live there. Driving a mid-sized crossover
    on the wrong side of the road was harrowing.



    What I don't have an insight into I can find you resources to find out.

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  • From Mortar@700:100/16 to k9zw on Sun Mar 9 16:21:00 2025
    Re: Re: Retiring to England - Was: What to do?
    By: k9zw to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Feb 24 2025 15:20:36

    There are some organizations/websites that can help with basic research.

    And those would be...?
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  • From k9zw@700:100/37 to Mortar on Mon Mar 10 12:10:59 2025
    On 09 Mar 2025, Mortar said the following...

    There are some organizations/websites that can help with basic research

    And those would be...?

    Research [Your Country of Present Residency/Origin] moving to [Intended Destination]

    Example "moving from usa to uk" gives everything from official UK Gov websites to services, to general guidance websites. US Gov even offers resources.

    Videos, forums... they all await.

    73

    Steve
    K9ZW

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@700:100/37 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Mar 20 13:53:59 2025
    On 22 Feb 2025, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

    I'm planning to retire in England

    A brave man, everyone who has any money is looking to get out asap lol.
    If I could get out I would.

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  • From k9zw@700:100/37 to MeaTLoTioN on Thu Mar 20 14:51:49 2025
    On 20 Mar 2025, MeaTLoTioN said the following...

    On 22 Feb 2025, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

    I'm planning to retire in England

    A brave man, everyone who has any money is looking to get out asap lol.
    If I could get out I would.

    Meat - what would be your top three or four possible locations?

    I have English classmates that are in some places I hadn't much thought of - Gibraltar, Channel Islands, Thailand, Florida, ... well I guess Florida is real popular for the aged crowd.

    My EU friends/family have picked places like Romania, Tunis, Florida again, Belize...

    Family friends here seem to pick retirement friendly states - Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, North Carolina - or mostly Caribbean destinations. Three have flats/houses in France, but as second homes. On second homes Canada is well represented, one has an apartment building in Russia, another a flat in Tokyo... kind of all over.

    Personally we have the idea of spending more time in England once retired, but not reestablishing residency by any means. I feel we have lost to age and death much of the human-capital that would have made England more attractive, and the economics & social-rights situation has dampened enthusiasm.

    So what are thinking?

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