• Craft of Non-Human Origin?

    From unixl0rd@700:100/71 to All on Mon Jun 5 18:11:44 2023
    I don't follow E.T stuff at all, but there is a popular post on reddit right now about U.S officials having retrieved a craft of non-human origin:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/141ch26/intelligence_officials_say_us_h as_retrieved_craft/

    Is it BS? I mean, if it weren't, it would be all over the news right now.

    ... Ignorance can be fixed, stupid is forever.

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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to unixl0rd on Mon Jun 5 23:14:55 2023
    On 05 Jun 2023, unixl0rd said the following...

    I don't follow E.T stuff at all, but there is a popular post on reddit right now about U.S officials having retrieved a craft of non-human origin:

    One of the congress critters is saying there are such craft.

    There is also a miltary feeling that some of these UAP (UFO) are "natural" of our planet, but not of the space/time continum we occupy.

    What that means, I don't really know, except that at some level the military folk feel they have it figured out.

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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to unixl0rd on Tue Jun 6 07:05:47 2023
    Check out https://thedebrief.org/ article Intelligence Officals Say US has Retrieved Crafts of Non-Human Origin

    An interesting take away is "why the extreme prolonged secrecy?"

    The whistleblowers state that the USA is only one of several countries to have such craft/materials in their posession.

    Yet they ALL hide it?

    Why?

    They all know each other has some, so hiding from each other isn't a big deal.

    Are they hiding it from the masses? Maybe, but the level of secrecy is so extreme there might be bigger reasons.

    Is the secrecy to allow exploitation (make money)? That would be more about ready access than secrecy, which could be controlled less dramtically.

    Or are we all hiding this (and likely more) from someone/something else?

    Is keeping the "finds" against "the rules" or agreements?

    Extreme secrecy is expensive, possibly even bloody efforts taken to protect national interests.

    So what is going on here?

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  • From nethius@700:100/37 to k9zw on Tue Jun 6 20:18:54 2023

    Over the last few months we?ve seen a lot of chatter from the UFO world. Now, I?m convinced some of these folks are just grifters in it for the money. People like Tom delong, Jacques Valee, and Louis Elizando come to mind here. They always have something breaking, and it?s a huge flop.

    But recently we?ve seen testimony before Congress that there are definitely unidentified things out there. Most curiously, they released images of a sphere type craft allegedly seen throughout the world, but heavily in the Middle East combat areas.

    Just this week news broke of Jonathan Grey, a current US intelligence official at the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (Nasic), wherein he (attempted to )confirmed the existence of ?exotic materials? to the Debrief, adding: ?We are not alone.?

    The Debrief reported that Grusch?s knowledge of non-human materials and vehicles was based on ?extensive interviews with high-level intelligence officials?. He said he had reported the existence of a UFO material ?recovery program? to Congress.

    ?David Grusch said that the craft recovery operations are ongoing at various levels of activity and that he knows the specific individuals, current and former, who are involved,? the Debrief reported in their article Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin - The Debrief

    If these craft are undead being recovered I can?t imagine what technology they?re carrying. But I?d also ask why are they crashing, and why are we the only ones recovering them?

    I have a lot of questions I?d love to see answers to. Are they being manufactured at some secret location here? Is there an undersea facility? Is it underground? Are they even from our reality/universe? How are these things kept secret? and why are they kept secret?

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  • From warmfuzzy@700:100/37 to k9zw on Wed Jun 7 03:14:28 2023
    The whistleblowers state that the USA is only one of several countries
    to have such craft/materials in their posession.
    Yet they ALL hide it?
    Why?

    The reason it is kept secret is that if one country had alien tech in their possession and others did not could see the country holding that foreign tech to be an existential threat to their national interests. They would see it as having a next level insight into the state-of-the-galactic-art of how things work. Perhaps the most highly classified materials would not be in their technology per-se but rather their organic bodies which could be mapped for making a genome of the species. THAT would be a major problem for a country that was lacking such insight. It would be worth much much more than gold or silver, it would be having a genetic rosetta stone, with genetic materials that could make for super-men. There are rumors of genetic material that is much more heavily dense than human DNA, by having several strands being attached to other strands, hooked together rather than in a ribbon, the genetic materials is rumored to be like a column of genetic material, which looks something like a tube of genes.

    This could be why the American national debt keeps rising... if a country knew about alien species it would be profoundly important to understand more and more about it, which could easily suck in several hundred billion dollars per year.

    Cheers!
    -warmfuzzy

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