• THOSE MYSTERIOUS MIBS

    From Christian Vondenstein@RICKSBBS to All on Fri Jun 26 06:35:13 2026
    Oklahoma MUFON Newsletter: "MUFONEWS" April 1993, A monthly
    publication for the MUFON Members in Oklahoma. Subscription
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    THOSE MYSTERIOUS MIBS

    by Richard D. Siegfried
    Oklahoma Director of Investigations

    The evolution of the comprehension of the UFO phenomenon and
    related subjects has, by April, 1993, accepted to some
    degree such extraordinary happenings as abductions, cattle
    mutilations, and even so-called Bigfoot sightings. I guess
    it is time for me to acquiesce and consider the really far-
    out subject of the infamous Men In Black. I don't like to
    think about them for I have always thought the subject not a
    little silly.

    Since 1977, the year of my great enlightenment, Men In Black
    have been mentioned to me by a few citizens. In fact, around
    1979, at an Ohio UFO Investigators public presentation in
    Cincinnati, Ohio, my friends and I may have encountered two
    of the "creatures."

    During the registration for the conference two men entered
    the lobby. They were dressed in very neat dark suits,
    sported very GI haircuts and what looked like Air Force
    regulation dress shoes. The twosome would not speak to
    anyone.

    Neither would they register, although they paid the
    admission fee. Actually I have always thought that they were
    Air Force Intelligence agents who forgot to change their
    shoes.

    But then, at the end of the program we were walking down a
    long corridor leading to our vehicles. The two mystery men
    were walking ahead of us. We were laughing and talking
    rather loudly. Both men turned and looked at us. At that
    point the corridor made a right angle turn. They rounded the
    corner. Although we were probably no more than forty or
    fifty feet behind them by the time we turned the corner the
    two men had disappeared.

    We were all astonished. We looked for a door that they could
    have ducked into and at the same time were wondering why
    they would do that. Three of us ran to the outside door and
    looked around the parking lot. They were gone. Unless they
    did duck into one of the unmarked doors what they did was
    inhuman.

    Some years later a married couple moved into an apartment
    complex just two blocks from my residence. The lady, a
    nurse, had had some very unusual experiences. Somehow she
    had found out that I was a MUFON investigator and came down
    to the house to discuss her situation. I can't remember what
    she told me.

    But, I do remember what her husband said. They had moved
    from Akron, Ohio. While there the husband became the leader
    of a rather healthy UFO group of citizens. He would rent
    part of the enormous hangar of the Goodyear Blimp and
    conduct meetings in it.

    Since it was so long ago I can't recall how the warnings
    began but eventually the Men In Black became involved in an
    attempt to scare him off. He didn't scare. That is, he
    didn't become frightened until his little giris told him
    that two men, in dark suits and hats, driving a large black
    automobile, were following them to and from school.

    The implication was clear. Either he stop his UFO activities
    or something would happen to the children. That is when the
    family moved to Dayton. The gentleman would have nothing to
    do with any UFO organization.

    There was no reason for me to doubt the authenticity of the
    story.

    Somewhere around the end of the 1970s the Men In Black were
    made known to me again. That time, I felt, the story was
    filled with humor.

    I taught a senior high school class in Anthropology. There
    were two sisters, who were my students. Their heritage was
    part Native American. In fact, their mother was a Native
    American from South America.
    Mrs. X was a citizen of Chile. During the terrible days of
    the Chilean revolution and the following years of
    dictatorship she became involved in supporting Allende, the
    legitimate Communist presidente of that suffering nation.
    Then, the Communists were thrown out of office, with what
    seems to be considerable support from the United States
    intelligence community, Mrs. X, realizing that the Communist
    leader was far better for her country than the military
    dictator, became quite vocal. Prudence dictated that they
    flee while they were still alive. They went to Brazil.

    The father and the daughters, my students, were American
    citizens and I think the wife also was a U.S. citizen.
    Peculiar things happened and they were unable to leave
    Brazil for the United States. A long time passed and finally
    they made good their exit from Brazil before the authorities
    could catch on to their plan for legally leaving Brazil.

    Both parents were professors at one of the Ohio state
    universities. Both came in and lectured to my students about
    the primitive natives of South America and other peoples of
    the world.

    One day the gentleman told me about their experience with
    Men In Black.

    At that time the family lived in a community east of Dayton.
    By the time I had met them, the mother and both daughters,
    because of their heritage, had been accepted into the local,
    urban, Shawnee Tribal Council.

    What happened to them next is what we wish would never
    happen in America. Someone was watching them. They
    discussed the problem and decided that either a foreign or
    United States intelligence organization was watching them
    and at the same time intimidating them by being obvious.
    They didn't consider the situation dangerous.

    One evening two members of the Shawnee Indian Nation visited
    the family's home. The men in that council are large, for
    the most part; very impressive physical specimens; proud
    descendants of the famous Tecumseh.

    Somewhere in the course of the conversation the one Native
    American said, "There are two guys sitting out there in the
    alley watching your house. What's going on?"

    The response was, "Oh, those two sit out there about every
    night. Don't worry about them. But they do make us nervous."

    The Shawnee replied, "Don't worry about them. We'll take
    care of it."

    The next night the black vehicle was once again parked in
    the alley, both men, clad in dark clothing, were watching
    the house. Suddenly the two Shawnee appeared, one on each
    side of the car.

    "Hey, man! What are you doing out here in the dark?"

    The car windows were rolled down and the occupants had no
    recourse but to respond. "Nothing. Just sitting here. We
    aren't doing anything."

    "Yes you are," said the deep voice of one of the Indians.
    You are bothering our friends inside the house."

    "No. We're just sitting here."

    "Look, man, we say you are. Do you know what's behind your
    car, at the end of this little alley? Well, I'll tell you.
    There is a swamp. The swamp is deep and boggy. In fact, my
    buddy and I could roll this car backwards into the swamp and
    it would sink and no one would ever find it. Get it?

    Don't ever show up here again or bother our friends again or
    you will disappear forever."

    My story teller, a college professor, mind you, laughed.
    "They took baseball bats and smashed out all of the lights
    and windows on the car. That's the last we ever saw of the
    Men In Black."

    Because of that story I never took The Men In Black very
    seriously. I was prone to think they were costumed agents of
    a paranoid government agency running amok.

    In the May 1992 edition of Lou Farish's UFO NEWSCLIPPING
    SERVICE, there is an article that is far more serious than
    what I have written. The validity of the report is
    questionable. I don't know any of the people involved,
    writers or witnesses. That isn't to say the story isn't
    true.

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