• A NEST OF INFO ON GULBREEZE UFOs FILE: UFO1649

    From Ricky Sutphin@RICKSBBS/TIME to All on Wed Dec 31 03:17:21 2025
    PART 35




    Message #5717 - UFO
    Date: 11-11-91 13:09
    From: Jim Speiser
    To: All
    Subject: Ed and the model
    Replies: -> #5721

    One of the reasons I reject Ed Walters' claims regarding his
    photographs of the Gulf Breeze object is the sheer NUMBER of
    little controversies surrounding the photos and events there. One of
    those controversies, of course, is the model that was found in Ed's
    former residence. Ed has been very good at putting out fires, by
    misdirecting people's attention to little details that would seem to
    exonerate him. But now there is another controversy arising out of the
    model, and that is the apparent attempt by someone to "go back in time"
    and change the relevant evidence, or get rid of it altogether.

    The evidence hinges on the house plans made by Ed Walters which appear
    on the inside of the UFO model. Ed claims the plans were drawn up in
    September of 1989, two years after his first UFO photos were made
    public. But, according to Phil Klass' "Skeptics UFO Newsletter", July
    1991 issue....

    <<

    It can now be revealed that in early January, 1987, Walters and Russ
    McElhinney decided to build a a house "on speculation" at 712 Jamestown
    Drive which would have a Living Area of 1740 sq. ft. and whose garage
    entrance would be PARALLEL to the long dimension of the house -- as in
    the UFO-model house plan. On Jan. 16, 1987, Walters and McElhinney filed
    a building permit request with the Gulf Breeze City Hall and 12 days
    later, on Jan. 28, they filed a building permit reqeust with Santa Rosa
    County ... However, the Slab Area shown does NOT match the 2393 sq. ft.
    visible on the UFO-model drawing.

    But if one calculates the Slab Area for the Thomas house plan, it does
    not total 2393 either. When I pointed this out to Maccabee, he replied
    that "the term `slab area' does not mean just the area where there is
    concrete slab. How Ed arrived at the [2393] number is a straightforward caluclation for him, even though it may seem strange to you (and me)."
    (The "Spec House" was never built. A short time later, Mr./Mrs. Gerald
    Folkers contracted with Ed to build a somewhat different design at 712 Jamestown Drive.)

    Soon after the small UFO-model was discovered, Ed Walters visited the
    owners of his former residence to inspect the model they had found. A
    short time later, Ed and his wife Frances visited City Hall to examine
    house plans. Later it was discovered that the lower right corner of the
    "spec" house drawing - where the Living Area and Slab Area figures
    normally are shown - had been torn off by some "person unknown."

    WHO WOULD HAVE ANY REASON TO VISIT THE GULF BREEZE CITY HALL AND TEAR
    OFF THE CORNER OF THE "SPEC HOUSE" PLAN THAT SHOWED ITS LIVING/SLAB AREA FIGURES? Several potential suspects come to mind: The KGB, The Pope,
    Dolly Parton, Barbara Bush, Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, Saddam Hussein,
    Donald Trump, and VP Dan Quayle. If you can think of any other possible suspects, please submit name(s) to SUN.



    I plan to scan the 1/28/87 building permit application into the system
    and will distribute it. Again, not the smoking gun, but just another of
    those "little controversies" that mar this case.

    Jim Speiser

    Note: This message originally appeared on ParaNet a few months ago. I'm reposting it here because the controversy over the plans has come up here recently and I wanted to try and clarify a few things.
    JS

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    Message #5721 - UFO
    Date: 11-12-91 10:14
    From: John Hicks
    To: Jim Speiser
    Subject: Ed and the model
    Replies: #5717 <-

    WHO WOULD HAVE ANY REASON TO VISIT THE GULF BREEZE CITY HALL AND TEAR
    OFF THE CORNER OF THE "SPEC HOUSE" PLAN THAT SHOWED ITS LIVING/SLAB AREA FIGURES?

    Hee hee!
    Also, I've been told that round about the same time, Gulf Breeze Mayor Ed Grey visited the planning & zoning dept. (or whatever they call it) for the very first time, all by himself. Unknown whether that was before or after the Walters' visit.

    jbh

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