• Comments on Mr. Steinman's absurb statements on the subject of the "flying saucer" phenomena being the work of one of his Gods

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    * STEINMAN.REP Comments on Mr. Steinman's absurb statements on the
    subject of the "flying saucer" phenomena being the work of one of
    his Gods.



    Throughout written history women and men looked up in the sky
    and wondered at the machines they observed there. Those civilizations whose thealogy and theology supported a positive,
    benign, and gentle Creator experienced these machines, lights,
    and other constructs as friendly, and manifestations of their
    God. Those societies with a polarized deity system of Good vs
    Trickster were decidedly neutral when such manifestations
    occurred, and usually waited for near-future events to happen
    before judging if the visitation was from Good or Trickster.

    Always, superior technology has been condemned as work from a
    relatively recent newcomer to mythology, the Devil. Where the
    Trickster was not "good" or "evil," this new God was decidedly
    evil. It was a Pope who stated that the steam engine was evil,
    and instant excommunication from the Roman Catholic Church was
    the punishment for those evil sinners who used steam for work
    Using steam meant that "earning thy bread by the sweat of thy
    brow" became much easier, and thus wrong in the eyes of the
    currently adopted God.

    Now here we are in the 1989s, and technology has pretty much
    cut our sweating down to those days when the air conditioning
    fails to work in one's apartment. Pushing papers around a desk,
    and punching a keyboard, has a permanent place in today's
    society.

    So one would think that the equation "Technology = Evil"
    would have been put to rest, right?

    No. Two years ago, on national TV, a religious extremist,
    hysteric, and Fundamentalist, stated that space craft were the
    "work of the Devil," and then included as "proof" the "Occult New
    Age philosophy" in Star Trek and Star Wars.

    Then we come to William M. Steinman, the subject of this
    diatribe.

    I quote from his statement dated 01/19/89, Titled "Ultimate
    Solutions To The UFO Phenomena," as found in the text file Steinman.txt.

    "The Flying Saucers originate from an
    'eternal dimension', not subject to space
    and time, as we know it."

    Mr. Steinman courageously assumes a great deal here, the
    least of which is that "Flying Saucers" are real, either physical
    or astral in origin. While he does not clue the reader in on what
    he means by "eternal dimension," we can assume safely that he
    refers to an other worldly, etheric "plain of existence" that
    occultists, such as he, loves to speak of. The existence of such
    an astral plain is his second big assumption.

    As an occultist myself, I agree with Mr. Steinman that the
    "UFO Phenomena" is "other dimensional," and does not belong
    completely in the realm of "space and time." I do, however,
    object to the fact that he has stated his assumption as fact.

    "The Flying Saucers 'materialize' out of
    this 'eternal dimension' into our space
    time frame, and have been doing so since
    time immemorial.

    Assuming that using the term "Our space time frame" is
    valid (who knows? It could be *US* infiltrating *THEIR* space),
    he does not provide any clue here to what he means by "since time
    immemorial." The "UFO Phenomena," as we presently know it, is
    only as old as written history, which really wasn't that long
    ago. Mr. Steinman assumes an antiquity that is not supported or
    supportable.

    There is a direct relationship between
    'The Great Secret' of the Occult teachings,
    'The Mystery of Iniquity' of the Bible, and
    the Flying Saucer Phenomena.


    Mr. Steinman mentions his occult teaching, but gives us no
    clue at all to what he's talking about. As an occultist, one
    would assume I'd know what he means by "The Great Secret," but I
    have never come across such a reference once in 28 years of
    study. One wonders if Mr. Steinman knows what he's talking about.

    He also fails to mention what this "direct relationship"
    happens to be!


    The "Dark Forces" of the Occult, summed
    up as Satan (Lucifer) in the Bible, is the
    underlying source behind the Flying Saucer
    Phenomena.


    Mr. Steinman is one of the relatively few occultists who
    believes in the Christian God Satan. I have yet to see any
    reference in occult literature to such a deity.

    If we assume, as Mr. Steinman has, that such a deity as this
    Christian God exists, why would It be the "underlining source" of
    the "Flying Saucer" phenomena? And if it is, as Mr. Steinman
    states, why is it that UFOs were reported before his God was
    invented?

    I am not aware of anywhere in the Christian Bible where it
    states that their Gods chief mode of transportation are "flying
    saucers." I suppose the Pope should excommunicate these Gods:
    some UFOs appear to be steam powered!


    The "Dark Forces" are motivating and
    influencing the so called 'conspiracy
    Groups', who really control every world
    Government, through their various
    Intelligence Agencies.


    The only "Dark Forces" (note the capitals in deference to
    Mr. Steinman's fear and awe of them) here on Earth, as far as I
    can tell, and from occultist teachings, are humans, in the form
    of hate and ignorance. Mr. Steinman claims occult teachings, but
    his statements do not support his claim.


    There does exist in the United States,
    an alliance between the 'materialization'
    of these 'Dark Forces' posing as 'Alien
    Beings' and a high level Intelligence
    group, presumably 'MJ-12', who in turn
    operates through the N.S.A., C.I.A.,
    F.B.I., D.I.A., etc.


    In one sentence Mr. Steinman says that his God Satan is
    responsible for the "Conspiracy Groups," and in the next he joins
    such a group by proclaiming that the government has sold-out to
    this God. So much for consistency.

    There do exist Above-Top-Secret
    "saucer bases" in remote portions of the
    United States (and around the world), in
    which this unholy and immoral alliance
    are developing a very advanced
    Technology, based on Unified Field
    Physics, Genetic Engineering, and
    biogenic breeding in preparation for the
    ultimate "materialization" of the "Dark
    Forces" when the "Mystery of Iniquity"
    is finally culminated in "Anti-Christ"
    or "Ahriman" ("Incarnation of Satan").


    While mythology is a wonderful art form, why equate it with
    high technology? And why this fear of high technology that so
    many hysterics cling to?

    Why has he stated, flat out and with no proof or qualifiers,
    that the United States of North America's government is in
    "unholy" and "immoral" alliance with his God? This is not even
    good mythology, and nothing in occult teachings suggests such a
    belief-- why Mr. Steinman says it does is a good question.


    This entire subject matter remains
    the most highly classified and most
    closely guarded secret of all time,
    under the cloak of 'National Security'.


    Then how was he, above all others, made privy to this secret?


    Faith in God is what protects us
    against this. Paranoia is what allows
    the 'materialization' or Psycho-Physical
    manifestation of the M.I.B. (or other
    diabolical forms) to 'visit' you, If you
    know too much.


    Mr. Steinman clearly has faith in being paranoid. He does
    not state which of his Gods to "have faith" in. There has yet to
    be any such "visits" by "diabolical forms," to my knowledge, and
    I've studied such things-- all such references are generally
    understood to be allegory.

    I sincerely hope that such a "diabolical form" has come to
    take Mr. Steinman away, and thus removed one more fruit-cake from
    the field of Ufology. Such lunatics give the field a bad name,
    which it already suffers greatly under.


    -D. Rice, July 9, 1989
    
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