• THE REAL HOLY SPIRIT

    From Beth Martin@RICKSBBS to All on Thu Mar 26 06:44:30 2026
    THE REAL HOLY SPIRIT

    In Mormonism the "Holy Ghost" is a personage, or a god, but the
    "Holy Spirit" is an impersonal force. The Mormons refer to verses that
    the Holy Spirit is symbolized by oil, fire and water and show that
    these are "impersonal". The Bible refers to the Father and the Son as
    "bread of life", "living water" and other "impersonal" terms. Again,
    we must look at the context.

    In John 16:7, our Lord is placing His emphasis on His going away
    and the Holy Spirit's being sent by the Father to replace our Lord
    himself. This change (or replacement), Jesus says, would be beneficial
    for His disciples. AN IMPERSONAL FORCE COULD HARDLY IMPROVE ON THE
    PERSONAL PRESENCE OF OUR LORD, JESUS CHRIST!

    The word in Hebrew and the word in Greek for SPIRIT and GHOST both
    mean the same, "breath or wind" and the "translators" of the King
    James Bible noted that the Greek word denoted a neuter gender and
    mistranslated to be an "IT", but they did utilize the word Ghost and
    Spirit and interchanged them on many occassions.

    The words as translated are from only ONE word in Hebrew and ONE
    word in Greek - therefore there are NOT two words for SPIRIT and
    GHOST - only ONE. Now, let's look at this ONE entity called the HOLY
    SPIRIT. In John 16:13 and 14 we see our Lord, Jesus telling us this
    about the Holy Spirit, "HE shall not speak of HIMSELF ... HE shall
    glorify me ... HE shall receive of mine ....". NOTE that our LORD
    gives PERSONALITY to the Spirit. Otherwise our Lord would have used
    the term that Mormons use "IT".

    Jesus repeatedly (John 16:7-15) uses the MASCULINE PERSONAL
    pronoun "He" when referring to the Spirit. Jesus used the term clearly
    to tell us that the Spirit had personality and intimacy.

    Ananias was struck dead for lying to the HOLY SPIRIT (Acts 5:3).
    You cannot lie to an impersonal force! It would be like walking up to
    a window box fan, turning it on and facing its "force" and then
    telling lie after lie to it - IT WOULD NOT CARE THE SLIGHTEST, WOULD
    IT? Now, you look at Ananias and, if you are not a complete idiot, you
    would not repeat his behavior, now would you? The Holy Spirit and the
    Holy Ghost are not two different items mentioned in the Bible. There
    is only one entity referred to as both HOLY GHOST and HOLY SPIRIT.

    The Holy Spirit is a person. The Spirit may be "grieved" (Ephesians
    4:30) and "sinned against" by UNFORGIVABLE blasphemy (Mark 3:29). None
    of these things are possible for an "impersonal force".

    The Holy Ghost does things which only a person COULD do.

    He SPEAKS:
    "The Spirit said unto Philip, 'Go near'" (Acts 8:29)

    He STRIVES:
    "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever" (Genesis 6:3)
    - "The Spirit also helpeth our infirmity ... [and] MAKETH
    INTERCESSION for us." (Romans 8:26)

    He REVEALS, SEARCHES, and KNOWS:
    "But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit; for the Spirit
    searcheth all things ... the things of God knoweth no man but the
    Spirit of God" (I Corinthians 2:10,11).

    Other verses can be shown in which the Spirit IDENTIFIES with
    believers (Acts 15:28), The Spirit is ETERNAL (Hebrews 9:14),
    OMNIPRESENT (Psalm 139:7-10), DOES GOD'S WORK (Genesis 1:2), INVOLVED
    IN REGENERATION (John 3:8), participates in the RESURRECTION (Romans
    8:11).

    Paul identifies the Spirit as the speaker to Isaiah. Acts 28:25-26
    and Isaiah 6:8,9. An impersonal force does not counsel, speak, feel,
    or anything resembling personality. The HOLY SPIRIT is a person - one
    of the THREE ENTITIES of the ONE TRUE GOD.

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    For more information see below:

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  • From Wes Thomas@RICKSBBS to All on Sat Mar 28 07:22:59 2026
    THE REAL HOLY SPIRIT


    In Mormonism the "Holy Ghost" is a personage, or a god, but the
    "Holy Spirit" is an impersonal force. The Mormons refer to verses that
    the Holy Spirit is symbolized by oil, fire and water and show that these
    are "impersonal". The Bible refers to the Father and the Son as "bread
    of life", "living water" and other "impersonal" terms. Again, we must
    look at the context.

    In John 16:7, our Lord is placing His emphasis on His going away and
    the Holy Spirit's being sent by the Father to replace our Lord himself.
    This change (or replacement), Jesus says, would be beneficial for His disciples. AN IMPERSONAL FORCE COULD HARDLY IMPROVE ON THE PERSONAL
    PRESENCE OF OUR LORD, JESUS CHRIST!

    The word in Hebrew and the word in Greek for SPIRIT and GHOST both
    mean the same, "breath or wind" and the "translators" of the King James
    Bible noted that the Greek word denoted a neuter gender and was
    mistranslated to be an "IT," but they did utilize the word Ghost and
    Spirit and interchanged them on many occasions. The words as translated
    are from only ONE word in Hebrew and ONE word in Greek - therefore there
    is NOT two words for SPIRIT and GHOST - only ONE. Now, let's look at
    this ONE entity called the HOLY SPIRIT. In John 16:13 and 14 we see our
    Lord Jesus telling us this about the Holy Spirit, "HE shall not speak of HIMSELF ... HE shall glorify me ... HE shall receive of mine ....". NOTE
    that our LORD gives PERSONALITY to the Spirit. Otherwise our Lord would
    have used the term that Mormons use "IT."

    Jesus repeatedly (John 16:7-15) uses the MASCULINE PERSONAL pronoun
    "He" when referring to the Spirit. Jesus used the term clearly to tell
    us that the Spirit had personality and intimacy. Ananias was struck dead
    for lying to the HOLY SPIRIT (Acts 5:3). You cannot lie to an impersonal force! It would be like walking up to a window box fan, turning it on
    and facing its "force" and then telling lie after lie to it - IT WOULD
    NOT CARE THE SLIGHTEST, WOULD IT? Now, you look at Ananias and, if you
    are not a complete idiot, you would not repeat his behavior, now would
    you? The Holy Spirit and the Holy Ghost are not two different items
    mentioned in the Bible. There is only one entity referred to as both
    HOLY GHOST and HOLY SPIRIT.

    The Holy Spirit is a person. The Spirit may be "grieved" (Ephesians
    4:30) and "sinned against" by UNFORGIVABLE blasphemy (Mark 3:29). None
    of these things are possible for an "impersonal force".
    The Holy Ghost does things which only a person COULD do.

    He SPEAKS:
    "The Spirit said unto Philip, 'Go near'" (Acts 8:29)

    "The Spirit also helpeth our infirmity ... [and] MAKETH INTERCESSION
    for us." (Romans 8:26)

    He STRIVES:
    "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever" (Genesis 6:3)

    He REVEALS, SEARCHES, and KNOWS:
    "But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit; for the Spirit
    searcheth all things ... the things of God knoweth no man but the Spirit
    of God" (I Corinthians 2:10,11).

    Other verses can be shown that the Spirit IDENTIFIES with believers
    (Acts 15:28), The Spirit is ETERNAL (Hebrews 9:14), OMNIPRESENT (Psalm 139:7-10), DOES GOD'S WORK (Genesis 1:2), INVOLVED IN REGENERATION (John
    3:8), participates in the RESURRECTION (Romans 8:11). Paul identifies
    the Spirit as the speaker to Isaiah. Acts 28:25-26 and Isaiah 6:8-9. An impersonal force does not counsel, speak, feel, or anything resembling personality. The HOLY SPIRIT is a person - one of the THREE ENTITIES
    of the ONE TRUE GOD.

    For more information see below:

    This file has been brought to you by the ministry of the;

    Southern Maryland Christian Information Service BBS, (SMCIS)
    (301) 862-3160 HST

    P.O. Box 463
    California, MD 20619

    Sysop: Buggs Bugnon



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