• Please consider this Disclaimer

    From Larry Sneeringer@RICKSBBS to All on Thu Apr 23 06:14:29 2026
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    From: Ammond Shadowcraft Msg Num: 95 of 97
    To: All Date: 26 Feb 92 08:35:00
    Subj: Please consider this Disclaimer
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    Conf: Article Echo Of The MagickNet Trio ******************************************************************************* A Request From A Concerned Participant

    Please accept my apologies for this, but at this point I feel it
    necessary to ask for the sysop's consideration on a minor
    matter.

    WHEREAS: About a year and a half ago Tim Maroney wrote an article
    focusing on the Temple of Set's Order of the Trapezoid. In this
    article Tim Maroney attempts to justify his claim that the Temple of
    Set is fascist, and afterward in other forums, is also racist. When
    Tim Maroney wrote this particular article I gave Maroney the benefit
    of doubt and answered his article reasonably by saying that from my
    personal knowledge the ToS was neither fascist nor racist.
    Answering along with me was one Oz Tech, a III'd degree (Priestess),
    a black woman and a Knight of the Order of the Trapezoid. She
    responded along with me that from personal knowledge the Order was
    neither fascist nor racist. Some days later Dr. Michael Aquino, the
    High Priest of the Temple of Set, a minority himself, answered Tim's accusations by responding that the Temple of Set is not fascist (in
    fact the ToS is greatly concerned with individual rights and freedom
    of religion) and is relatively indifferent to the state. Further
    Dr. Aquino told the readers that Tim Maroney did not even extend to
    Aquino the common courtesy of letting Aquino read and comment on the
    article before Tim released it to the public.

    After eighteen months of relatively little continuing dispute the
    issue was brought up in THE_BASE_OF_SET echo whereupon I reminded
    the participants of the above facts. In this echo one Balanone, a
    high Initiate and member of the Temple of Set for over a decade,
    replied that from his personal knowledge the Temple is not fascist
    and is relatively less racist than the public at large. In point of
    fact Balanone is of Jewish heritage. I have informed the
    participants (which includes Tim Maroney) that while Tim Maroney is
    baiting the Temple via virtual (or cyberspace) defecation on Dr.
    Michael Aquino, that Dr. Aquino does not run the Temple. The Temple
    of Set is run by a duly elected Board of Directors (including women)
    of which the Head of that board is a person of minority descent--a
    Jew, and by the Priesthood (of which race is not a qualifier) at
    large. Thus Tim Maroney's allegations are proved fully wrong.

    To this date, after more than a year, Tim Maroney has neither
    offered an apology to those whose reputations he has attempted to
    damage, nor has he offered to retract his irresponsible and
    fallacious "Nazi Trapezoid" article. After watching his actions over
    the years I can only conclude that Tim Maroney is, in this
    particular matter, acting irresponsibly and/or
    obsessive/compulsively with respect to the Temple of Set.

    THEREFORE I ask the sysops to consider the idea that to continue
    to propagate an irresponsible attack upon an institution (which has
    survived federal scrutiny and personal deprivations over the years)
    would poorly serve the network and the participants of that network.

    THEREFORE I ask the sysops to consider putting a disclaimer with
    Tim Maroney's Nazi-Trapezoid article indicating something like the
    following...

    "In this article Tim Maroney alleges that the Temple of Set's
    Order of the Trapezoid is Nazi sympathetic and by extension, the
    Temple of Set is fascist. He offers as proof the fact that the
    Temple of Set's Reading List Category 14 is full of Nazi sympathetic
    works. With a few meager points Tim Maroney alleges that the Temple
    of Set is Nazi sympathetic--ie. fascist and racist.

    "Tim Maroney fails to mention that the Reading List contains a
    number of books, some written from a pro-Nazi standpoint, some
    written from anti-Nazi stand and some neutral. Tim Maroney also
    refuses to consider the fact that Dr. Aquino is a Phd. in political
    science and serves his (Aquino's) organization well by assuring the
    readers of the Reading List they have a complete view of this very
    emotional subject. Further more, four persons, Dr. Michael
    Aquino--High Priest of the Temple of Set, one Balanone--a high
    Initiate of the Temple of Set (and of Jewish descent) and member for
    over 10 years, one Oz Tech, a black Priestess (III' degree) and
    Knight of the Order of the Trapezoid, and Ammond Shadowcraft, a
    Setian I', informed Tim Maroney that from their personal experience
    *neither* the Temple of Set nor the Order of the Trapezoid is
    fascist or racist in policy or practice.

    "To this date (February 1992) after almost a year and a half,
    Tim Maroney has offered neither an apology to the Temple membership
    nor has he offered to update or retract his apparently irresponsible
    article. Therefore please be warned that this particular article is
    flawed in that the author is obviously in some adversarial
    relationship with the Temple of Set. There are two sides to this
    article. Tim presents only his side.

    "To further compound this problem Tim Maroney has uploaded the
    article on various machines on the Internet and FidoNet. Tim Maroney
    has lost control of the article and thus the Temple of Set is robbed
    of any possible reasonable response to or from the future readers of
    this article.
    Ammond Shadowcraft, Feb 1992"

    While I doubt that any legal problems could resolve from carrying
    this article it seems unethical to let such an irresponsible article
    stand alone and unanswered. Apparently Tim has uploaded this article
    on many different machines and now no one knows where these copies
    reside. Please look at your text files to see if this article is
    present and please consider disclaiming the article.

    The above disclaimer relates only to Tim Maroney's Nazi-Trapezoid
    article and none other. However should a sysop decided to delete
    the article entirely I suppose that such an action is entirely
    reasonable.

    I apologize for any inconvenience this request might incur.

    For more information please contact the Temple at the following
    address:

    TEMPLE OF SET
    Post Office Box 470307
    San Francisco, CA 94147; U.S.A.
    MCI-Mail: 314-3953
    Telex: 6503143953

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  • From Jerry Woody@RICKSBBS to All Msg #177, 26/02/92 08:35cst on Fri May 1 06:34:42 2026
    A Request From A Concerned Participant

    Please accept my apologies for this, but at this point I feel it
    necessary to ask for the sysop's consideration on a minor
    matter.

    WHEREAS: About a year and a half ago Tim Maroney wrote an article
    focusing on the Temple of Set's Order of the Trapezoid. In this
    article Tim Maroney attempts to justify his claim that the Temple of
    Set is fascist, and afterward in other forums, is also racist. When
    Tim Maroney wrote this particular article I gave Maroney the benefit
    of doubt and answered his article reasonably by saying that from my
    personal knowledge the ToS was neither fascist nor racist.
    Answering along with me was one Oz Tech, a III'd degree (Priestess),
    a black woman and a Knight of the Order of the Trapezoid. She
    responded along with me that from personal knowledge the Order was
    neither fascist nor racist. Some days later Dr. Michael Aquino, the
    High Priest of the Temple of Set, a minority himself, answered Tim's accusations by responding that the Temple of Set is not fascist (in
    fact the ToS is greatly concerned with individual rights and freedom
    of religion) and is relatively indifferent to the state. Further
    Dr. Aquino told the readers that Tim Maroney did not even extend to
    Aquino the common courtesy of letting Aquino read and comment on the
    article before Tim released it to the public.

    After eighteen months of relatively little continuing dispute the
    issue was brought up in THE_BASE_OF_SET echo whereupon I reminded
    the participants of the above facts. In this echo one Balanone, a
    high Initiate and member of the Temple of Set for over a decade,
    replied that from his personal knowledge the Temple is not fascist
    and is relatively less racist than the public at large. In point of
    fact Balanone is of Jewish heritage. I have informed the
    participants (which includes Tim Maroney) that while Tim Maroney is
    baiting the Temple via virtual (or cyberspace) defecation on Dr.
    Michael Aquino, that Dr. Aquino does not run the Temple. The Temple
    of Set is run by a duly elected Board of Directors (including women)
    of which the Head of that board is a person of minority descent--a
    Jew, and by the Priesthood (of which race is not a qualifier) at
    large. Thus Tim Maroney's allegations are proved fully wrong.

    To this date, after more than a year, Tim Maroney has neither
    offered an apology to those whose reputations he has attempted to
    damage, nor has he offered to retract his irresponsible and
    fallacious "Nazi Trapezoid" article. After watching his actions over
    the years I can only conclude that Tim Maroney is, in this
    particular matter, acting irresponsibly and/or
    obsessive/compulsively with respect to the Temple of Set.

    THEREFORE I ask the sysops to consider the idea that to continue
    to propagate an irresponsible attack upon an institution (which has
    survived federal scrutiny and personal deprivations over the years)

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    From: Ammond Shadowcraft
    To: All Msg #178, 26/02/92 08:37cst Subject: Please consider this disclaimer, 2 of 3

    would poorly serve the network and the participants of that network.

    THEREFORE I ask the sysops to consider putting a disclaimer with
    Tim Maroney's Nazi-Trapezoid article indicating something like the
    following...

    "In this article Tim Maroney alleges that the Temple of Set's
    Order of the Trapezoid is Nazi sympathetic and by extension, the
    Temple of Set is fascist. He offers as proof the fact that the
    Temple of Set's Reading List Category 14 is full of Nazi sympathetic
    works. With a few meager points Tim Maroney alleges that the Temple
    of Set is Nazi sympathetic--ie. fascist and racist.
    Tim Maroney fails to mention that the Reading List contains a
    number of books, some written from a pro-Nazi standpoint, some
    written from anti-Nazi stand and some neutral. Tim Maroney also
    refuses to consider the fact that Dr. Aquino is a Phd. in political
    science and serves his (Aquino's) organization well by assuring the
    readers of the Reading List they have a complete view of this very
    emotional subject. Further more, four persons, Dr. Michael
    Aquino--High Priest of the Temple of Set, one Balanone--a high
    Initiate of the Temple of Set (and of Jewish descent) and member for
    over 10 years, one Oz Tech, a black Priestess (III' degree) and
    Knight of the Order of the Trapezoid, and Ammond Shadowcraft, a
    Setian I', informed Tim Maroney that from their personal experience
    *neither* the Temple of Set nor the Order of the Trapezoid is
    fascist or racist in policy or practice.
    To this date (February 1992) after almost a year and a half,
    Tim Maroney has offered neither an apology to the Temple membership
    nor has he offered to update or retract his apparently irresponsible
    article. Therefore please be warned that this particular article is
    flawed in that the author is obviously in some adversarial
    relationship with the Temple of Set. There are two sides to this
    article. Tim presents only his side.
    To further compound this problem Tim Maroney has uploaded the
    article on various machines on the Internet and FidoNet. Tim Maroney
    has lost control of the article and thus the Temple of Set is robbed
    of any possible reasonable response to or from the future readers of
    this article.
    Ammond Shadowcraft, Feb 1992"

    While I doubt that any legal problems could resolve from carrying
    this article it seems unethical to let such an irresponsible article
    stand alone and unanswered. Apparently Tim has uploaded this article
    on many different machines and now no one knows where these copies
    reside. Please look at your text files to see if this article is
    present and please consider disclaiming the article.

    The above disclaimer relates only to Tim Maroney's Nazi-Trapezoid
    article and none other. However should a sysop decided to delete
    the article entirely I suppose that such an action is entirely
    |AaY+}+

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    From: Ammond Shadowcraft
    To: All Msg #179, 26/02/92 08:37cst Subject: Please consider this disclaimer, last

    reasonable.

    I apologize for any inconvenience this request might incur.

    For more information please contact the Temple at the following
    address:

    TEMPLE OF SET
    Post Office Box 470307
    San Francisco, CA 94147; U.S.A.
    MCI-Mail: 314-3953
    Telex: 6503143953

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    Jerry
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    http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
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