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LAZAR9.TXT [ **] Billy Goodman interviewed on the Phone

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NOTE: Late December, 1989 phone interview between Billy Goodman
of Las Vegas based KVEG Radio, and Grant Cameron, UFO
researcher from Winnipeg, Canada. Goodman is recently
known for his nightly 3-hr radio program, "Billy Goodman's
Happening". Cameron is co-author of the soon to be publicly
released, "UFOs, MJ-12 & THE GOVERNMENT", a report centering
around the activities of a prominent Penn State President.

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<CAMERON>: "I wanted to quickly ask you about this Mr. Lazar,
you've had this guy on your show a number of times?

<GOODMAN>: "I certainly have yes."

<CAMERON>: "What's your gut feeling on this guy?"

<GOODMAN>: "My gut feeling?"

<CAMERON>: "Ya."

<GOODMAN>: "He's telling the truth."

<CAMERON>: "Is that right?"

<GOODMAN>: "Oh, ya. I probably shouldn't say that word - telling
truth. As far as I'm concerned, what he has said and
he has been on my show twice, and I've talked about it
wide open and nobody has disputed it. I have to go by
the...nobody has disputed it. It's been all over the
west coast. My show goes into ten states. If people
had any desire to dispute it they could have. No one
has. Other people have confirmed it. Some people say,
"Ya they know about it". They are saying it very non-
chalant."

<CAMERON>: "You have other people who have worked there?"

<GOODMAN>: "They are very nonchalant saying they know there is
activity there."

<CAMERON>: "Some of your tapes are circulating around, and a lot of
researchers are now working on this case."

<GOODMAN>: "Terrific. Let them circulate and let them contact me
personally and we can go from there, but you've called
me when I'm in the middle of about 9 different things.
I'm producing a special. You talk about a tape that is
going to circulate. I'll probably have the best show of
the entire year coming up New Years Eve. I'm going to
have the Best of Bob Lazar, the Best of Bill Cooper, and
the Best of Virgil Armstrong. This is going to be a tape
that the world is going to want. All of their inside
information."

<CAMERON>: "Is there anyway I can get a copy of this tape?"

<GOODMAN>: "I can give you a number. It's area code 702-564-4404.
I call the man Rodger the Dodger, but his name is Roger.
And he tapes every one of my Happenings. He has copies
of everyone of my Happenings going all the way back to
August. He can run down who we have had on, basically
what was discussed, what really outstanding information
was revealed. He has it all down pretty good - more so
that I have. So you are a UFO researcher?"

<CAMERON>: "We're dealing in a paper that deals with a very high
ranking Navy person that we are going to expose. It
will be published in 30 to 60 days."

<GOODMAN>: "Why are you going to expose him?"

<CAMERON>: "He's former President of Penn State."

<GOODMAN>: "But why do you want to expose him?"

<CAMERON>: "We want to prove there is something to this."

<GOODMAN>: "Great. Oh there's something to it my friend. What are
you talking about. We had over 200 people up in the
middle of the desert that saw it."

<CAMERON>: "You were at the test? You were on the Special?"

<GOODMAN>: "That's where I was."

<CAMERON>: "On the KLAS Special?"

<GOODMAN>: "That was me. You can imagine what we were doing up there.
We had over 200 people. You saw the busload of people.
We are talking about a lot of listeners that don't imagine
things. I'm talking about doctors and lawyers. We had
policeman there too. There's no fabrication here. Every-
body saw it."

<CAMERON>: "Have you done any pressing to get any statements from
anybody? From Groom Lake or Nellis?"

<GOODMAN>: "I've had them on my show. They're on tape with what they
saw. I've had callers policeman say, "I can't say anymore
but I was there and I saw it." It's all over the tapes.
As far as written form, no. I don't do that kind of thing."

<CAMERON>: "I was meaning the officials. They must be denying this?"

<GOODMAN>: "Well of course they're denying it. Well theirs no denying
it. No one's denying a thing. What are you talking about?
There has not been one denial. We had Senator Bryant on
here - the Senator of Nevada. He didn't deny it. He says
he can't talk about it. That's what their answer is. The
Undersecretary of Defence said its too Top Secret to even
discuss what's going on up there. Your talking about an
area where everything goes on. Anything goes on there.
Have you got my office number (gives it). If you want to
do an interview - some inside information or something.
It's all happening here - there's no question about it.
I guess you're getting the tapes. This New Year's Eve
thing will be phenomenal."

"Lazar has been on at least two times. Maybe once more
where he called in. He describes the UFO. He describes
touching them. He describes how many there are. What
do they look like inside. How their made. How they get
here. I mean its phenomenal. You call the office and
we'll do an interview and put the whole thing in pers-
pective."



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