• MORE ON THE INTRUDERS 15-Jun-92

    From John Short@RICKSBBS to All on Wed Sep 23 07:38:02 2026
    Message #2075 "CONTACT: Abductee/Contact Echo"
    Date: 15-Jun-92 17:23
    From: Dave Roscoe
    To: John Stepkowski
    Subj: Re: Intruders
    Previous Reply is Message #1991.

    Hi there!

    >> I have moved a portion of your message to Mike Christol
    >> about the Intruders and answered it here in case you don't get
    >> it on SPACE_LINK...

    Thanks for going to that trouble; the message did not appear in
    the SPACE_LINK echo (at least not down here).

    I suspected as much. No problem! :)

    But if they have this great skill and knowledge, why torment
    'contactees' by allowing them to remember the experience?
    Wouldn't it be kinder to "zap" peoples' minds so that they
    wouldn't remember all of this terribly intrusive tinkering?

    John, memories cannot really be erased. The greys are actually
    only removing conscious awareness of it. The conscious awareness
    is created and controlled by the ego.[...]
    It can never be erased because it exists as energy,
    and energy cannot be destroyed.

    I see where you're coming from with this, Dave, and I agree
    with you as far as "conventional" brainwashing techniques are
    concerned. However, the point I was trying to make is that
    these "entities" are supposed to have extra-ordinary abilities
    to manipulate the human mind and body. (check out Mike's quote
    above).

    That is a good point John. I do not have an answer, just a
    speculation. Perhaps they do not wish to actualy alter the
    brain physically because they use the abductees several times over
    the course of years. If they were to alter the brains physically,
    maybe it would hamper their mission, whatever that may be. Also,
    as advanced as they are, they are still messing with a human brain.
    Any brain is complicated beyond compare, but a human brain is
    high up on the impossibly complicated list. They may know alot
    about their own brains, but it may not be possible for them to know
    that much about ours. Just a guess, though.

    It is possible to "physically" destroy or interrupt the
    mechanisms of memory. If you look at stroke victims or people
    who have had severe head injuries, some suffer irretrievable
    memory loss. A family friend received head injuries in a
    traffic accident. She was on the way to a "surprise" birthday
    party when she was hit by a speeding car. For some nine years
    she couldn't recall the accident or anything that happened
    about two months before the accident. (Two weeks before the
    accident, she attended the christening of her grandson, and a
    few weeks before that her other daughter had an engagement
    party. Even though she had pictures and home movie footage of
    both events, she wasn't able to remember any of it. She died
    about two years ago and always said that when she watched
    movies of herself at the events, it was like looking at a total stranger).

    I have heard of that. I have also heard of certain traumas
    triggering recall in individuals who have forgotten a
    traumatic event such as abuse or an accident.

    So if "memory" itself can't be destroyed, the mechanism of
    recollection can be. I was just speculating; if these
    "entities" are as advanced and compassionate as some would have
    us believe, why can't they somehow permanently disconnect the
    memory of the event? Of course, this raises many more
    questions, ranging from whether "they" truly want the event to
    be forgotten, all the way to whether this really is a genuine
    "physical" occurrence.

    Again, your guess on that one is as good as mine. Maybe there
    are some governing laws we don't know about in the Cosmos. :)

    If statistics hold any value at all in this phenomenon, then
    there are MILLIONS of abductess all over the world. If that is
    correct, then the people actually remembering are comparibly small.

    True, but you know what they say about statistics!
    I've read that CBS, in relation to the publicity releases for "Intruders," put the number of "abductees" at 1 in 50! That's
    over 2 million people in the US alone!! How did they get these
    numbers? Was "Have You Ever Been Abducted by Aliens?" a
    question on the last census form? <g>

    You mean that question wasn't on YOURS?!?!?! Wow!


    The fact that some people suffer no ill effects from the knowledge of
    being
    abducted, etc,. and actually view it as the incredible experience that
    it
    is...
    Uh-huh. I'll tell you what, Dave. If the Greys ever come
    a'calling, offering me the chance to be a part of this
    "incredible experience", how about I decline the invitation
    and give them your name instead? <grin>

    Please do! They won't find enough brain left to erase, never mind
    study! :)

    I appreciate the variety and depth of opinions about this whole
    abduction/examination phenomenon, but the inescapabale fact is
    that there are people who are emotionally scarred and
    traumatised by whatever it is they believe they've
    experienced. Why some appear to react "better" than others is
    the subject of a lot of speculation, but the bottom line is
    whether the answers are to be found in the "abductees"
    themselves or in the actions of some outside agency.

    If all this is merely the "grey guys" trying to earn their
    Eagle Scout badges in animal (human) physiology, there're going
    to be an awful lot of p*ssed off people out there.
    ("Greetings, Mr Strieber! We come in Peace from a Galaxy far,
    far away. Now kindly drop your trousers and bend over...")

    Betty Andreasson Luca is an example of this in action.

    Thanks for this pointer. I'll certainly try and look into it.
    Thanks again for your message, Dave!


    John

    Take it easy John!

    Peace,
    Dave

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