• MORE ON THE HUDSON VALLEY SIGHTINGS PART 2

    From Gary Gordon@RICKSBBS to All on Tue Sep 22 06:57:50 2026
    PART 2





    Date: 06-09Ž92 (10:39) Number: 3859 of 4132
    To: JOHN HICKS Refer#: NONE
    From: MICHAEL THOMAS Read: NO
    Subj: RE: HUDSON VALLEY SIGHTIN Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
    Conf: UFO (1) Read Type: GENERAL (+)

    Thanks for the detailed reply. But I am a little confused.

    Coverup by Phil Imbrogno

    Is this a book about the Hudson Sightings?

    Make no mistake about it,there is a real unkown object in New York's
    Hudson Valley.

    What do you mean by a "real unknown object"? Everything that you
    describe below is of terrrestrial origin. In fact while the facts are
    very interesting, I see nothing there that has to do with
    extraterrestrail craft, aliens, etc It all sounds like a CIA training
    center for operations like gun running etc. Not having military
    experience I am not sure, but "Restricted" does not seem like very high
    level secrecy or security. Many things on military bases are restricted,
    and the response to the journalist's intrusion seems completely normal
    to me, especially if the CIA is operating there. No need to introduce
    the UFO theme. Even the cattle mutilation idea is speculation. If the
    USDA is transporting infected cattle for example what better thing to
    do with them than keep them in a government area.

    I am not criticizing the research or facts, in fact I am very impressed
    by them, but I just don't see why we should assume that UFOs are
    involved, except in so far as the flights are mistaken for them.

    -- Michael Thomas

    Since the publication of NIGHT SIEGE there has been a
    regular appearance of a formation of planes over New York and Connecticut.
    Members of our research team have spotted them on numerous occasions. These
    planes were also observed in binoculars by several independent witnesses.
    We had these people draw the outline of the shapes of the planes that they
    saw. The drawings were all very similar,so we sent them to two pilots that
    we know. One is a ex-military pilot,the other a ex-commercial pilot who
    used to fly missions for the CIA.All of our aircraft experts and our two
    pilots agree that the desgin was that of an O-2 type aircraft. The O-2 is a
    medium duty aircraft with a single engine. It is made by Cessna Aircraft.
    It is capable of long range and is used by the CIA for surveillance
    missions. It has a very quiet "souped up" engine and the newer models have
    on board flight computers in them for greater stability in the air. We have
    reports that as many as eight planes were seen flying together in a tight
    formation with the winds gusting up to twenty-five miles an hour!

    They seem to be trying to fake a UFO and many people feel that it is an
    attempt to discredit the sightings and to try to convince everyone that all
    they saw was a bunch of planes. These planes have been seen only on a
    Thursday night,the official night the Airforce flies night manuvers. They
    have been seen all over Southern New York and most of Connecticut.

    They fly for about two hours and then they land,but where? They have been
    seen circling Stormville Airport in Stormville, New York giving the
    impression that they are going to land there. They then break formation and
    head West(One plane has been reported landing at Stormville then taking off
    again). On more than one occasion they have been tracked to Stewart
    International airport(an old airforce SAC base) in Newburgh New York.
    Stewart is located West of the Hudson River not far from I-84. The base is
    official operated by the Air National Guard and the Marine Corps. The
    planes then land,one at a time over a period of one hour,but not on the
    main part of the base. They seem to lad on a isolated section of Stewart
    which is a very large airport.

    Our resaerch team visted Steward airport and found an isolated fenced off
    large airfield away from the main landing area marked "RESTRICTED" The
    Restricted area had a well kept flight line and grounds. On the grounds
    were several buildings which looked like hangers large enough to harbor
    several planes of medium size. For the several hours that we were there we
    saw no activity at all.

    We filed a Freedom Of Information Act request(FOIA) with the CIA to find
    out if the CIA was in fact using this area for some type of operation using
    small aircraft.We received an answer several weeks later from the CIA. In a
    lenthly double talking letter the CIA denied our request for information
    about their activities at Stewart. The reason they gave was National
    Security. This denial in our eyes is an admission that the planes do in
    fact belong to the CIA. It is also apparent that the pilots who fly these
    planes are expert military type pilots with years of experience in
    formation flying.

    What was going on in this restricted area? I was contacted by a member of
    the local Newburgh New York media. This person told me that about six
    months before our visit to Stewart he found the restricted area on the
    base, became curious and started to walk toward the inside perimeter.
    Out of nowhere a jeep came screaming to a halt and three military
    police (Airforce) got out of the jeep and took him by force to a building
    just inside the gate. He was placed in a room that was dimly lite with just
    a table and chair. After about fifteen minutes two men entered the room
    dresssed in dark suits and began to question him. They had a computer print
    out in their hands and it had his name on it. He told me that they knew
    everything about him.

    After about one hour of questions,they then called his supervisor at his
    Job to pick him up. They then placed him in a jeep and took him to the
    public area of Stewart Airfield. This member of the media is a newsperson
    in the Newburgh area and does not want his name used at all in regards to
    the experience he had at the restricted area at Stewart. He is still
    fearful that who ever they were that questioned him might be keeping an eye
    on him. He told me that he felt they were with the CIA and they meant
    business.

    During our investigation concerning this restricted area at Stewart we
    found out that the base now harbors several C-5A's the largest transport
    jet that our Airforce has. We also found out from personnel at the base
    that these C-5A's landed on the restricted airfield several years ago and
    cargo was unloaded. We also found out through a document search that the
    Ait National Guard is no longer officialy running the un-restricted area of
    the base. It is now under the command of the Navy and the Marines are
    running it and have been since 1973! This was strange since when we visted
    Stewart we saw Airforce personnel there and even had a talk with a
    Master Sergent.

    We also found out that the Department of Agriculture was also using a
    section of the restricted area. After a great deal of getting the run
    around we found out that they are using the area for a holding place for
    animals. We found out that a great deal of cattle and other animals were
    flown in to this area. We are still waiting for documents from the USDA
    explaining where the animals are coming from, why cattle and where are
    they going from there. Of course when we found out that cattle were being
    flown into this area the thought of cattle mutilations crossed our minds.
    What was the strange conection with the mutilations and the UFOS. What was
    the connection between the restricted area at Stewart, the CIA, the
    mystery planes and the USDA and the cattle.

    Origin: The FORUM BBS, Ithaca, NY 607-272-1371 1:260/460 (1:260/460)
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    Date: 06-10Ž92 (06:40) Number: 4013 of 4132
    To: JOHN HICKS Refer#: NONE
    From: RANDY HASKIN Read: NO
    Subj: RE: HUDSON VALLEY SIGHTIN Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
    Conf: UFO (1) Read Type: GENERAL (+)

    ]pilots agree that the desgin was that of an O-2 type aircraft. The O-2 is a ]medium duty aircraft with a single engine. It is made by Cessna Aircraft.
    ]It is capable of long range and is used by the CIA for surveillance
    ]missions. It has a very quiet "souped up" engine and the newer models have
    ]on board flight computers in them for greater stability in the air.We have ]reports that as many as eight planes were seen flying together in a tight formation with the winds gusting up to twenty-five miles an hour!

    Keep in mind that the O-2 is actually a twin engine aircraft. It is the military version of the Cessna "Skymaster" with one engine mounted in the
    nose, and one mounted pointing aft, between the two tail booms. It is not a high-tech aircraft at all, but merely a utility/liason aircraft used for Forward Air Control duties in Vietnam. An on-board flight computer for "stability" is highly unlikely, although the type of formation flying
    discussed in this article could be accomplished with NO PROBLEM by any proficient military pilot, especially in an aircraft flying at moderate
    speeds
    (such as would be flown in the O-2 - well under 300 mph).
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