• EVIL 3.0

    From Scott Baron@RICKSBBS to All on Sat Jul 18 06:32:47 2026
    Mon 6 Apr 92 2:17
    By: Robin Gober
    To: John Stepkowski
    Re: Evil 3.0
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    Evil 3.0


    To recap. Some Contactees, who believe that we create our own
    reality, don't like discussions about the possibility of Evil aspects
    of the Phenomenon, because they seem to believe that this might
    _influence_ other Contactees and create Evil encounters. Some
    Contactees don't even like to discuss this subject in public because
    even talking about the possibility of influencing a Contactee might be
    enough to influence the Contactee. The general thinking seems to be
    that We will simply keep this matter private and not worry your little
    heads about it. After all you are not enlightened are you? So how can
    you possibly understand such things. It wouldn't be fair to you at all.

    My own feelings, perceptions and personal experience about this
    subject of influence is like everything else, complicated.

    My own perception of my own personal experience seems to be that one
    can affect the phenomenon by how one thinks about it. Now that is only
    my own personal belief. I could be way wrong. If I were a standard
    Abductee and someone told me that the reason I was having such a hard
    time with my Abductions was because I wouldn't let myself believe that
    the Greys or Nords were really great fellows, I believe I would STOMP
    that person into the ground! I feel out of respect to struggle of
    Abductees that I need to say that. I am limited in my experience in
    that I am not an Abductee. I have however had negative experiences, so
    I feel that gives me a more balanced approach to the issue than the
    Contactee who has never had a bad experience.

    So it seems that the Contactees I am talking about may be right. I
    may be able to influence a Contactee. But lets look at that a little
    closer. Every day each and every one of us are bombarded with issues
    and techniques designed to influence our thinking. Some of these do
    influence us, some don't. When you get right down to it anything that
    influences me, affects me, because at some level I allow it to happen.
    Most of this is done on a subliminal level, but still some part of me
    says "Yes!". I alone am responsible for what is inside my head. It's my
    job to check out my head, keep what I like and deal with the rest. At
    present I don't seem to be able to think of any other reasonable
    answer.

    Is the phenomenon EVIL? Many Contactees have asked themselves that
    question from time to time. I believe that just about any thinking
    Contactee might want to ask themselves that question. It seems like a
    fair question to me.

    This can be a touchy topic for a lot of Contactees. Some Contactees
    identify themselves to a large degree with the Phenomenon. So it's sort
    of a "love me, love my Phenomenon." So to these Contactees, to question
    the Phenomenon is to question _them_. My usual response to that is
    this, "What ever the Phenomenon is, it certainly seems capable of
    taking care of itself. If I got a problem with you, that is between me
    and you. If I got a problem with the Phenomenon that's between me and
    the Phenomenon. So unless you are the Phenomenon, how about minding you
    own affairs while the Phenomenon and I work this out?"

    The knee jerk defense of the Phenomenon is something one can see on
    the echoes from time to time. When speaking about Abductions someone
    might point out that taking people against their will and subjecting
    them to examinations just might be a little unethical. THEN the
    rationalization starts:

    "They aren't from around here so they don't have the same ethics we
    do."

    (They have been here for about forty years, seems like they could
    learn our ethics.)

    "Just think of what we would do if we caught one of them."

    (Most Abductees have NEVER caught a Grey.)

    "Think of all the times we have shot at their ships."

    (Most Abductees have NEVER shot at a ship.)

    "Look at our society, all the killing."

    (Most Abductees aren't Killers.)

    "Think of all the bugs you have stepped on in your life."

    (With all due respect, I don't believe bugs are capable of
    suffering the same sort of emotional trauma that Abductees go through.)

    "They are here to help us."

    (How do you know that?)

    "Because they TOLD me."

    (With all due respect, you could make just about any statement you
    wanted to about the Phenomenon and find a Contactee somewhere who could
    tell you in all honesty that is what they TOLD him.)

    Ah yes, but is the Phenomenon Evil? The truth is I don't know. I wish
    I could come up with some way to decide one way or the other. One of
    the points that Vallee makes is that when ever one encounters the
    phenomenon there is a sort of "Reality Exchange".

    "Rather than a physical occurrence inside a spacecraft, did they
    experience a temporary translation of their consciousness into an
    altered reality followed by visions of archetypal creatures? Is it
    possible to promote coincidences and peculiar effects of apparently
    paranormal nature by creating physical structures shielded from
    everyday noise and serving as informational singularities?"
    _Dimensions_ Jacques Vallee 1988 ISBN 0-345-36002-8


    That is all well and good but it isn't something I can prove, is it?
    Whatever side one takes, and I question why someone should be required
    to pick a side at all, you can make some good agurments for your case.
    How- ever I don't believe any one can prove it either way.

    What's a poor Contactee to do? I guess I could just wait an other
    forty years and hope that the U.F.O. researchers will settle that one
    for me, but the reality is I have a life to live and I can't really
    wait. I'll give you my answer to the puzzle.

    Is the Phenomenon Evil? I don't know, have no way of knowing, may
    never have a way of knowing. I am still not sure what the Phenomenon
    is, or how much self deremation it might pocess. At present I bleieve,
    at least in my own life, that how I think about the process, seems to
    affect the encounter, but I have no way of knowing what the degree of
    that affection might be.

    So here is my resolution to the question.

    If the Phenomenon is good, than the best response to that is a live
    well lived. I must take responibility for my own actions and take steps
    to make sue that I am not a burden to those around me. I must be part
    of the answer, not part of the problem.

    If the Phenomenon is Evil, then the best response is still a live
    well lived. I can't allow evil to infect my life and destory my
    happiness. I must strive for my wholeness.

    If the Phenomenon is neither good or evil, or part good, part evil or
    even netural, then the best response is STILL a live well lived. For me
    it answers the challange in the most productive manner. Think back to
    the quote on Vasation. James Sr. was told it could be used for the
    perpous of Transformation. That is the "out" for all Contactees. Use
    it, don't abuse it, or be abused by it, or allow others to abuse you
    because of it.

    I am not sure if this was the sort of response you were looking for
    John, but it is honestly the best one I could come up with. Thank you
    for asking my opinnion and thank you for reading all of this.

    take care!
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