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  • Re: Getting Python to work with Mystic

    From djdave@21:1/133 to Gryphon on Tue Jul 2 23:20:01 2024
    Hi Gryphon
    I hit this today when installing a new instance of Mystic on a fresh build of Ubuntu server (22.04 in my case)
    There seems to be a dependancy issue somewhere in the Mystic code. If you do not have Python2 installed the
    mystic-bbs library will not load, so Python3 will not work.
    May not be helpful on 24.xx, not sure if they allow Python2 to be installed from standard repositories??
    -DJDave

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to djdave on Thu Jul 4 15:23:17 2024
    Hi Gryphon
    I hit this today when installing a new instance of Mystic on a fresh
    build of Ubuntu server (22.04 in my case)
    There seems to be a dependancy issue somewhere in the Mystic code. If
    you do not have Python2 installed the
    mystic-bbs library will not load, so Python3 will not work.
    May not be helpful on 24.xx, not sure if they allow Python2 to be installed from standard repositories??
    -DJDave

    I spent a couple of days moving from win 11 to ubuntu. Started with ubuntu
    24, went to 20 and finally ended up on 18 due to not being able to get python 2.7 installed, including pip. Ubuntu 18 seems to be working fine for the
    last couple of hours.

    ogg
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  • From Gryphon@21:1/101 to Avon on Tue Jul 9 08:15:14 2024
    if you're playing with a pre-alpha it may be an issue with that - just
    not sure.

    I recall g00r00 had made some changes to the way Mystic should 'just
    work' with Python without the need to point to where libraries were installed etc.
    Perhaps it may pay to try A48 and see how you go?

    I'm running with A49 atm but I started with A48 and it still had that issue.
    In my case I have no paths specified for Python2 or 3 in my settings and fortunately it is 'just working'

    I wonder if Python2 is required whereas Python3 is optional, because I do not have python2 installed at all and it doesn't appear that it's possible to do it at all.

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  • From Gryphon@21:1/101 to The Godfather on Tue Jul 9 08:17:42 2024
    On 25 Jun 2024 at 06:44p, The Godfather pondered and said...

    I've been trying to get python to work with mystic and I'm not having any luck and I'm hoping that I can get some assistance here.
    I'm running Ubuntu 24.04LTS x86_64 and I have only python3 installed. python2 is installed. I'm running Mystic A49 L64.

    I've followed the instructions as well as I can but still can't seem get it to work.

    Hey Gryphon,

    I had the same issue. The problem was that Python 2.7.18 did not
    install the the /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpython2.7.so.1 file where I point (and I think Mystic looks for) the python libraries. libpython3.10.so.1 was there.

    installing:

    sudo apt-get install python2.7-dev

    I think that is all I needed and it did the trick. Not sure if that is your issue specifically? I also point mystic in config directly to both .s0.1 files for python 2 and 3.


    when I do sudo apt-get install python2.7-dev, I get a message that it is not found. This is Ubunto 24.04 LTS.

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  • From Accession@21:1/200 to Gryphon on Mon Jul 8 17:57:04 2024
    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 13:17:42 +1200, you wrote:

    when I do sudo apt-get install python2.7-dev, I get a message that it is not found. This is Ubunto 24.04 LTS.

    Pretty soon, you will have to compile Python 2.7 from source on every distro, as they are in the process (and have been for years, really) of phasing out 2.x for 3.x. You can get the latest "bugfix" version from 2019 here:

    https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-2716/

    Directly from that site:

    "Python 2.7 is scheduled to be the last major version in the 2.x series before it moves into an extended maintenance period. This release contains many of the features that were first released in Python 3.1."

    I brought up the fact that it would become a problem back when Python support was initially added to Mystic. But at the time, Python 3.x was fairly new and they were still calling 2.x "stable". However, whoever thought 3.x was ever going to go away is crazy. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Accession on Mon Jul 8 18:14:04 2024
    Pretty soon, you will have to compile Python 2.7 from source on every distro, as they are in the process (and have been for years, really) of phasing out 2.x for 3.x. You can get the latest "bugfix" version from
    2019 here:

    https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-2716/

    I noticed that there's a 2.7.18 release. Should I stick with 2.7.16 or go with the 2.7.18?

    ogg
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  • From Accession@21:1/200 to ogg on Tue Jul 9 19:00:00 2024
    On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 23:14:04 -0500, you wrote:

    https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-2716/

    I noticed that there's a 2.7.18 release. Should I stick with 2.7.16 or
    go with the 2.7.18?

    Guess I didn't look hard enough. You're right. Heck, there's also a release candidate after that (2.7.18rc1), but I don't know how reliable it is, since it looks like it never got turned into an actual release.

    I imagine if they're all deemed fairly stable, you should be safe going with whatever version works the best for you.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Gryphon@21:1/101 to Accession on Sat Jul 20 04:11:02 2024
    On 08 Jul 2024 at 05:57p, Accession pondered and said...

    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 13:17:42 +1200, you wrote:

    when I do sudo apt-get install python2.7-dev, I get a message that it not found. This is Ubunto 24.04 LTS.

    Pretty soon, you will have to compile Python 2.7 from source on every distro, as they are in the process (and have been for years, really) of phasing out 2.x for 3.x. You can get the latest "bugfix" version from
    2019 here:

    https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-2716/

    Thanks! I'm compiling it now.

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