Hey Mark!

<Esc>:read /proc/version
Linux version 7.1.7 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 16.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.47.20260726) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Aug 10 17:31:23 UTC 2026

It took just over 68 minutes with all 8 penguins contributing to this most noble cause.

Life is good,
Maurice

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... Eall on muðe þæt on mode.
All in the mouth that's in the mind.
--- GNU bash, version 5.3.15(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
* Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.64222)

Hej Maurice!

It took just over 68 minutes with all 8 penguins contributing to this
most noble cause.

Made it to the Netherlands and back.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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... God ger byþ þonne se hund þam hrefne gyfeð.
It's a good year when the dog gives to the raven.
--- GNU bash, version 5.3.15(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
* Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint @ (2:280/464.113)

Hey Maurice!

Made it to the Netherlands and back.

I got your reply (ref: MSGID: 2:280/464.113 8fcaac6f) via Penticton. Appears to me that we know what we're doing despite the fact that the machines in question are less than a meter apart and share a network switch. Gotta love technology eh?

Дуже груви,
Maurice

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... Þæs ofereode, þisses swa mæg.
That passed away; so will this.
--- GNU bash, version 5.3.15(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
* Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)

Hey Maurice!

On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 21:31:46 +0000, you wrote:

<Esc>:read /proc/version
Linux version 7.1.7 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 16.2.0, GNU ld (GNU
Binutils) 2.47.20260726) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon Aug 10 17:31:23 UTC
2026

Finally, the fellas over at Archlinux finally came through for me, a couple days after you!

Linux version 7.1.8-arch1-3 (linux@archlinux) (gcc (GCC) 16.2.1 20260810, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.47) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue, 11 Aug 2026 09:16:08 +0000

Three machines updated and rebooted in about 3 minutes (I did them all about the same time). ;)

Regards,
Nick

... Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20260425
* Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)

Hej Nick!

Finally, the fellas over at Archlinux finally came through for me,
a couple days after you!

Only if you count my kv-7.1.7 build. I just upgraded to kv-7.1.8 on the EuroPoint.

<Esc>:read /proc/version
Linux version 7.1.8 (root@europoint) (gcc (GCC) 16.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.47.20260726) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Aug 12 22:42:26 UTC 2026

That puts me behind Archlinux by 134778 seconds. Mind you kv-7.1.8 wasn't available when I first upgraded to the new gcc-16.2.0 release, which happened on the 9th. Given that I am just one person I honestly believe that puts my builds more or less up to speed with the fellas at Archlinux.

Three machines updated and rebooted in about 3 minutes (I did them
all about the same time). ;)

Yes but that is cheating. I am more impressed with the fellas over at Archlinux. They did all the hard work so that you could update and reboot in 3 minutes. It took me literally days to build 3 systems each from scratch. I have one more to go but am taking a break. Mind you that one only requires the good stuff (ie no gui and it's greedy apps) so it won't take too long to bring up to speed. :-)

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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/) /) (\ (\ /) /) /) (\ /) (\ /) /) /) (\ /) /)
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
... Sorg ond slæp somod ætgædre earmne anhogan oft gebindað.
Sorrow and sleep both together often bind the wretched solitary person.
--- GNU bash, version 5.3.15(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
* Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint @ (2:280/464.113)

Hey Maurice!

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 00:08:28 , you wrote:

Given that I am just one person I honestly believe that puts my builds
more or less up to speed with the fellas at Archlinux.

I mentioned that I caught up because of gcc, mainly. You definitely are ahead of the game, usually, unless you don't update right away.

Yes but that is cheating.

I don't consider it cheating, just eliminating the time it takes to compile so I can do other things, instead!

I am more impressed with the fellas over at Archlinux. They did all the hard work so that you could update and reboot in 3 minutes.

I agree, and so am I! I love the fact that I don't have to do the "hard work". :)

It took me literally days to build 3 systems each from scratch. I have
one more to go but am taking a break. Mind you that one only requires
the good stuff (ie no gui and it's greedy apps) so it won't take too
long to bring up to speed. :-)

Yikes, days is way too long for me. But you're retired. You probably have a lot more free time than I do (and it's great to keep your mind active after you retire). Mayhaps, when I'm retired I can go back to doing things the hard way, but that's not any time soon... and probably not!

Regards,
Nick

... Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20260425
* Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)

Hey Nick!

just eliminating the time it takes to compile so I can do other
things, instead!

Do you mean like your nano patch etc? Although I don't use nano I am still impressed with what you did with it way back when.

I love the fact that I don't have to do the "hard work". :)

Appanrently I live for that. Not sure what I would do otherwise. The 'need' for it has increased that is for sure.

You probably have a lot more free time than I do

Probably.

but that's not any time soon... and probably not!

You'll probably become a minion to AI. ;-)

Life is good,
Maurice

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... Is seo forðgesceaft digol and dyrne; drihten ana wat.
The course of the future is hidden and secret; God alone knows.
--- GNU bash, version 5.3.15(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
* Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)

Hey Maurice!

On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 00:23:10 , you wrote:

Do you mean like your nano patch etc? Although I don't use nano I am
still impressed with what you did with it way back when.

I'm still using it as my external editor (including this message) for multiple applications to this day! Now that I look back, I'm actually kind of surprised it didn't have the proper softwrapping before I said anything about it.

Appanrently I live for that.

So I've noticed!

You'll probably become a minion to AI. ;-)

Doubtful. I'm not a programmer by any means, and I don't work in the industry that is pretty much forcing their employees to use it. I think I've cursed at AI more than I've actually gotten anything done successfully with it, besides getting more specific with search engines. *shrug*

Regards,
Nick

... Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20260425
* Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)

Hey Nick!

Now that I look back, I'm actually kind of surprised it didn't have
the proper softwrapping before I said anything about it.

I think you woke them up. I haven't checked lately but wasn't it sponsored by the U of Washington? If I am not mistaken they were using it as the default editor for alpine, formerly pine, which was an email client thingy they came up with way back when, except the editor was called pico. nano was the replacement for that for reasons that escape me. I recall using pine back in my solaris daze. That was a long, long time ago in a land far, far away.

Appanrently I live for that.

So I've noticed!

I am a sucker for punishment. :-/

pretty much forcing their employees to use it

What employees? I doubt there are any real human employees ... or at least anymore. Elon took a chainsaw to them from what I've heard.

I think I've cursed at AI more than I've actually gotten anything
done successfully with it

Back in my heyday it was known as neural networking. Nothing really intellegent about it that I ever saw. Still isn't methinks, despite the 'I' in 'AI'.

Life is good,
Maurice

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... Ne do ðu nauðer: ne ðe sylfne ne here, ne ðe sylfne ne leah.
Don't do either of these things: praise yourself or criticise yourself.
--- GNU bash, version 5.3.15(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
* Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)

Hey Maurice!

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 21:17:46 , you wrote:

I think you woke them up.

I doubt that. Nano has been in constant development (version 9.2 currently) since your description below..

I haven't checked lately but wasn't it sponsored by the U of Washington?
If I am not mistaken they were using it as the default editor for
alpine, formerly pine, which was an email client thingy they came up
with way back when, except the editor was called pico. nano was the replacement for that for reasons that escape me. I recall using pine
back in my solaris daze. That was a long, long time ago in a land far,
far away.

What employees? I doubt there are any real human employees ... or at
least anymore. Elon took a chainsaw to them from what I've heard.

There are still plenty of "programmers" employed everywhere, however.. in order to make them produce as a much faster rate, they are basically being forced to use AI. Will they some day be called "AI auditors" since they're not the ones actually writing the code?

Regards,
Nick

... Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20260425
* Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)

Hey Nick!

Will they some day be called "AI auditors" since they're not the
ones actually writing the code?

I refer to "I Think We're All Bozos On This Bus" (Firesign Theatre) who at some point claim, "understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head." If you haven't heard it yet I highly recommend giving it a listen. You won't be sorry despite it taking 40-ish minutes out of your life.

Life is good,
Maurice

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... Se ðe ear gifeð and eft oftihð... bysmer he gewyrceð.
He who gives and takes it back again does a shameful thing.
--- GNU bash, version 5.3.15(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
* Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)