On 19 Aug, druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

No doubt fixing it involves some buggering around with the Windows
registry, but I haven't got around to spending several hours looking at search results with obviously wrong solutions (by AI), or even wrongerer solutions (by MSVPs).

The truth is out there - somewhere.

Possibly not. A Windows update may have screwed with the security
settings.

My Windows 11 PC connects quite happily to my Pi5 and my Pi4 based RISC OS device.

Fairly (!) simple to check on Windows 11:

1. Go to Control Panel
2. Open Network and Sharing Centre
3. In the left column, click on Changed Advanced Sharing settings
4. Make sure firstly that sharing is enabled
5. Expand the All Networks section

I have the Encryption set to 40- or 56-bit, but Windows may have defaulted
to 128-bit. I don't know enough about older Pis as per the OP, but it's probably worth exploring the above settings on the Windows side.
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Brian Howlett
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Procrastinate tomorrow!

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I have little experience with networked file sharing, such as using old
Wins such as XP and W7.

Phase I

Desktop, bios '11, 8G ram, AMD Athlon II, SSD Ventoy/ed, booting live
Linux Mint Cinn 23. Install Webmin & samba, use its network samba
function to share a connected USB. I'm able to access the USB from a
similar desktop running LM installed on its SSD.

Phase II

Pi 3B, 1G ram, running '25 May Raspbian ie Deb 12 LXDE/OB from SD.
Install Webmin/samba and similarly used that to share a USB connected hd
sata spinner. I am NOT able to access that external hd from my LAN w/
such as the above installed LM desktop; that is, I can /see/ it, but the authentication window step fails and just repeats.

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Mike Easter


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On 2026-08-19, druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

On 19/08/2026 19:50, Mike Easter wrote:

Pi 3B, 1G ram, running '25 May Raspbian ie Deb 12 LXDE/OB from SD.
Install Webmin/samba and similarly used that to share a USB connected hd
sata spinner.ÿ I am NOT able to access that external hd from my LAN w/
such as the above installed LM desktop; that is, I can /see/ it, but the
authentication window step fails and just repeats.

I've got exactly the same problem, all my devices connect to my Pi NAS
(aka a Pi 5 with an USB to SATA SSD) via NFS with no problem, but my
wife who still uses Microslop gets the same error when trying to connect
to the Samba shares from Windows 11. It's a fairly recent M$ breakage as
it was all working a couple of months ago before we moved house.

No doubt fixing it involves some buggering around with the Windows
registry, but I haven't got around to spending several hours looking at search results with obviously wrong solutions (by AI), or even wrongerer solutions (by MSVPs).

The truth is out there - somewhere.

I'm getting deja vu. M$ brought out a service pack for Windows 2000
which included a patch that made its SMB server issue an invalid command
to clients trying to connect, and then check the error message that came
back. If the error message returned by the client (in this case Samba)
wasn't worded exactly the way an M$ client would do it, then the server
would refuse to connect.

(I might have server and client backwards here, it was a long time ago.)

It took the Samba authors about two days to fix that one, and
I continued happily connecting to Windows shares from my Amiga.

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On 19/08/2026 23:54, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

On 2026-08-19, druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

On 19/08/2026 19:50, Mike Easter wrote:

Pi 3B, 1G ram, running '25 May Raspbian ie Deb 12 LXDE/OB from SD.
Install Webmin/samba and similarly used that to share a USB connected hd >>> sata spinner.ÿ I am NOT able to access that external hd from my LAN w/
such as the above installed LM desktop; that is, I can /see/ it, but the >>> authentication window step fails and just repeats.

I've got exactly the same problem, all my devices connect to my Pi NAS
(aka a Pi 5 with an USB to SATA SSD) via NFS with no problem, but my
wife who still uses Microslop gets the same error when trying to connect
to the Samba shares from Windows 11. It's a fairly recent M$ breakage as
it was all working a couple of months ago before we moved house.

No doubt fixing it involves some buggering around with the Windows
registry, but I haven't got around to spending several hours looking at
search results with obviously wrong solutions (by AI), or even wrongerer
solutions (by MSVPs).

The truth is out there - somewhere.

I'm getting deja vu. M$ brought out a service pack for Windows 2000
which included a patch that made its SMB server issue an invalid command
to clients trying to connect, and then check the error message that came back. If the error message returned by the client (in this case Samba) wasn't worded exactly the way an M$ client would do it, then the server
would refuse to connect.

(I might have server and client backwards here, it was a long time ago.)

It took the Samba authors about two days to fix that one, and
I continued happily connecting to Windows shares from my Amiga.

I just don't get this stuff. I have a Win 11 pro workstation, 4 Pis, and
two mini PCS, one Intel, one AMD - both with Ubuntu LTS

I have samba on all and I don't have any problems at all. OK if I want
linux to linux comms, I would just use NFS

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Chris

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druck wrote:

Mike Easter wrote:

Pi 3B, 1G ram, running '25 May Raspbian ie Deb 12 LXDE/OB from SD.
Install Webmin/samba and similarly used that to share a USB connected
hd sata spinner.ÿ I am NOT able to access that external hd from my LAN
w/ such as the above installed LM desktop; that is, I can /see/ it,
but the authentication window step fails and just repeats.

I've got exactly the same problem, all my devices connect to my Pi NAS
(aka a Pi 5 with an USB to SATA SSD) via NFS with no problem, but my
wife who still uses Microslop gets the same error when trying to connect
to the Samba shares from Windows 11. It's a fairly recent M$ breakage as
it was all working a couple of months ago before we moved house.

I'm not a commandline smarty, but I was wondering if there were a way to
try to access the share from the commandline instead of the GUI file
manager, then when the authentication failed, there might be some kind
of failure message that could be useful.

Or, maybe I should look at the situation of the desired share w/o using
the Webmin, so I could tell if there were something 'wrong w/ it' - the
share condition.

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Mike Easter

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On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 13:26:11 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:

I'm not a commandline smarty, but I was wondering if there were a
way to try to access the share from the commandline instead of the
GUI file manager, then when the authentication failed, there might
be some kind of failure message that could be useful.

There are quite a few useful tools at the client end to test
connections, authentication etc: nmblookup, smbtree, and in particular smbclient.

E.g. to get a listing of shares visible to a given username/password:

smbclient -U ®username¯%®password¯ -L ®server-addr¯

Specify domain as well:

smbclient -U ®username¯%®password¯ -W ®domain¯ ...

Access a particular share:

smbclient //®server/®share-name¯ -U ®username¯ ®password¯

(Hmm, there might be a typo in my notes ... might need a ?%? instead
of a blank between ®username¯ and ®password¯.)

Here?s a tip for troublesome Windows clients: they could be trying to
use an obsolete connection protocol version or authentication protocol
version that your Samba server is not configured to allow.

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On 20/08/2026 11:20, druck wrote:

On 19/08/2026 21:30, ??Jacek Marcin Jaworski?? wrote:

W dniu 19.08.2026 oÿ21:48, druck pisze:

we moved house

I see something like this years ago on Discovery. Must be expensive.

Expensive and tiring, all that pushing.

---druck

But at least you can leave all your stuff inside.

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