• Re: The US national debt

    From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to IB Joe on Wed Aug 26 23:48:32 2026
    Hey Joe,

    What you just said is not true. It was a Biden thing. The US runs a little different... Though there are 50 states in the United States they are almost like 50 different countries doing their own thing... kinda.

    I have spent 7 years of my life in the US ... I understand how things tick overthere.

    Better management might help them, but COVID was a hoax and all they
    wanted to do is get people worked up enough to get rid of Trump.

    I spent weeks in isolation in a hospital room. The only thing which I saw were green, blue and yellow gnomes. Not a single face. Just voices to get aquainted to. I pulled through which was miraculous in view of my medical situation then. Don't even try to tell me Coid19 was a hoax, I had it, the worst of all the illnesses I ever had.

    What I said was true. Trump has said several times over the last 18
    months or so that he is focused on growing the economy more than he is focused on the debt. He has said this several times...

    Trump says a lot of things.

    Tariffs are working...

    No, they're not because "you" (meaning the American consumers) are the ones paying the tariffs ... the foreign producer pays nothing ... so tariffs are not a real income, it's shifting money from your left pocket to your right.

    ... Toyota didn't want to pay a tariff so
    it moved a manufacturing plant from Mexico to the US.

    The simplicity of your statements hurts my eyes to read them...Toyota announced a 3.6 billion investment increase in a San Antonio facility, something which had been planned before "47", for logistical reasons.

    The country is big and there are differences as you cross it. Alberta, a western province of Canada is looking to hold a referendum to leave Canada... Not because of Trump but rather the idiots back east in Ottawa.

    I like Alberta a lot. I just love flying in and out of Calgary.

    About what Europeans think of America... and we saw their shock when they came for the World Cup... they said it was a lot different and better
    than what they were told it was going to be like.

    I think the US is a great country, really I do. I enjoy going there. There were a lot of desilusioned people ... especially Americans after the 4-1 smackeroo they got from Belgium. (after the 5-2 American defeat in a friendly earlier in the year)

    About Greenland... Trump wants a military base in the north to protect
    the west from Russia and China... With the 10s of thousands of Americas who lost their lives defending freedom in Europe and the trillions of
    money spent defending your freedom in Europe... Just let him build the
    base and protect your freedoms.

    The US at one point had 7 bases in Greenland, they abandoned 5 I believe so they still have 2.

    Do something to help yourself.

    I bought several jumbo-packages of toilet paper. Does that count?

    I want the US to pull out of NATO...

    Google says on NATO spending

    United States: ~$1.03 trillion

    Confusing total military spending for the whole USA with the NATO-budget.

    The Total Budget: NATO's common-funded budget for 2026 (split between civil and military headquarters, commands, and infrastructure) is estimated at 5.3 billion Euro (US$ $6.06 billion).

    The U.S. portion amounts to approximately $933 million for the year. Not 1.03 trillion ... The expense for maintaining 11 active carrier strike groups has got nothing to do with NATO ... same for your troops all over the world.

    This covers physical infrastructure, joint military exercises, and the operation of NATO headquarters

    You're more than 1,000% off the target ...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ward Dossche on Thu Aug 27 11:42:20 2026
    On 26 Aug 2026, Ward Dossche said the following...


    Hey Joe,


    I spent weeks in isolation in a hospital room. The only thing which I
    saw were green, blue and yellow gnomes. Not a single face. Just voices
    to get aquainted to. I pulled through which was miraculous in view of my medical situation then. Don't even try to tell me Coid19 was a hoax, I
    had it, the worst of all the illnesses I ever had.


    Well, as you have heard... Dr. Fauci needed a Presidential Pardon because of COVID.

    There were a few reasons. Most, if not all, were based on lies.

    The pardon dates back to 2014 and goes forward. The reason it goes back to 2014 is because Fauci funded the COVID research and hence he's responsible for the cause of it.

    Fauci knew the mRNA vaccines weren't working as described and the vaccines may have been worse than the virus itself.

    If you look at the deaths in States that locked down and those that did, like California and Florida you'll note that the shut down didn't save lives, or the vaccine mandate. California had more deaths but they have more population. Florida has an older population and may have been prone to the virus.

    In the US there were 0 death from flu... 0... Everything was COVID. In the US if you tried to rob a bank and someone shot you in the face because you shouldn't ron banks... AND you tested positive for COVID they marked you down as a COVID death, state was paid 30K for each COVID death... so everything was COVID even if your death was caused by a car accident, just that you tested positive.

    Had it not been an election year for Trump COVID might have hit the street and it might have been a busier than usual Flu season.

    Like past pandemics we would have built immunities up and it would have passed just 1918 Spanish version.

    COVID was a hoax in that it was built up to be worse than it was, and the treatment may have been worse than the infection.


    Tariffs are working...

    No, they're not because "you" (meaning the American consumers) are the ones paying the tariffs ... the foreign producer pays nothing ... so tariffs are not a real income, it's shifting money from your left pocket to your right.


    Tariffs are working... and I gave you an example and I see you didn't get it.

    Toyota was going to, or was in the middle of, building a manufacturing plant in Mexico. They scrapped that idea and are now building it in the US.

    BECAUSE... This is important... BECAUSE they didn't want to have a tariff added to the cost of the vehicle.

    This is important... Trump says there sill be tariffs if you IMPORT the product but NOT if you build/manufacture that product in the US.

    BTW, there is a company that is as old AF from Canada, Crown Royal, the moved their bottling plant to the US to avoid tariffs and as well pay less taxes and are not subject to liberal regulations.

    this is why Trump has ~20 Trillion in investments over the past 18 or so months. BECAUSE people are building manufacturing plants in the US so that Americans will have good jobs.


    The simplicity of your statements hurts my eyes to read them...Toyota announced a 3.6 billion investment increase in a San Antonio facility, something which had been planned before "47", for logistical reasons.


    No...

    Google
    Toyota is shifting most of its Tacoma pickup truck production from Tijuana, Mexico, to San Antonio, Texas, backed by a $3.6 billion plant expansion by the year 2030

    Notice the words "shifting most of its Tacoma pickup truck production"

    This shift occurred after Trump got into office and he started his tariff kick.

    headline...
    Toyota's $3.6B Tacoma Production Move From Mexico Is Not the Whole Enchilada

    US economy is booming because there is a business man running the show.


    I think the US is a great country, really I do. I enjoy going there.
    There were a lot of desilusioned people ... especially Americans after
    the 4-1 smackeroo they got from Belgium. (after the 5-2 American defeat
    in a friendly earlier in the year)


    I have no clue what you are talking about here. I hope that there is a point some time in the future where the US pulls out of NATO, and even the US (maybe). Pull the troops out of Europe and focuses it spending on the US citizens and the country.

    Trump just focusing on the west is great, from the north to the south poles just on our side of the globe. Y'all can deal with the threats as you see fit... Maybe Vlad's request to join NATO was bad for you and he didn't make the wait time... So be it... Than deal with the missed opportunity you had.

    Just leave us out of the process if Vlad wants to start wars.

    Ukraine is not part of NATO and as a result we shouldn't be funding it.


    The US at one point had 7 bases in Greenland, they abandoned 5 I believe so they still have 2.


    He's building bases and adding missal defense stuff... I know y'all will act grateful after the US thwarts an attack from Russia or China.


    Confusing total military spending for the whole USA with the NATO-budget.

    The Total Budget: NATO's common-funded budget for 2026 (split between civil and military headquarters, commands, and infrastructure) is estimated at 5.3 billion Euro (US$ $6.06 billion).

    The U.S. portion amounts to approximately $933 million for the year.
    Not 1.03 trillion ... The expense for maintaining 11 active carrier
    strike groups has got nothing to do with NATO ... same for your troops
    all over the world.
    This covers physical infrastructure, joint military exercises, and the operation of NATO headquarters

    You're more than 1,000% off the target ...


    I'm not.

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