• .bsy signals with WWIV networking

    From R3c0n #1@126.Wwivnet@11:1/101 to All on Sun Feb 2 18:31:11 2025

    For those that run experimental WWIV networks, what causes the hub to throw so many .bsy signals? It's typically with network 1,2 and b. Is it systems crashing the the hub? Or is it having the WWIV hub calling out to systems? We're playing around with it and trying to isolate root causes. Any info would be appreciated.

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  • From Rushfan #1@513.Wwivnet@11:1/101 to R3c0n #1 on Wed Feb 5 16:52:38 2025


    throw so many .bsy signals? It's typically with network 1,2 and b. Is

    What do you mean bsy signals? Files left open or failure to connect. BinkP connects on a different port than the bbs so shouldn't interfere.

    While running network commands, the binaries create bsy files for the network they are in so we don't corrupt things by running network1 twice for a given network at the same time

    rushfan



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  • From R3c0n #1@126.Wwivnet@11:1/101 to Rushfan #1 on Sat Feb 15 11:37:57 2025

    On Wednesday,February 05, 2025 at 04:52 PM, Rushfan wrote:

    What do you mean bsy signals? Files left open or failure to connect.
    BinkP connects on a different port than the bbs so shouldn't interfere.


    While running network commands, the binaries create bsy files for the network they are in so we don't corrupt things by running network1 twice
    for a given network at the same time

    Yes this makes sense, however what would cause the .bsy files to not remove after the connection and process is complete? I do not run the hub but often need to log in to delete the *.bsy files in order to free up packets stuck on the hub.

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  • From Rushfan #1@513.Wwivnet@11:1/101 to R3c0n #1 on Tue Feb 18 09:51:16 2025


    Yes this makes sense, however what would cause the .bsy files to not
    remove after the connection and process is complete? I do not run the
    hub but often need to log in to delete the *.bsy files in order to free
    up packets stuck on the hub.

    Not sure, are there any errors in the logs, maybe the network command crashes? also which of the bsy files are left?



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  • From R3c0n #1@126.Wwivnet@11:1/101 to Rushfan #1 on Tue Feb 18 19:49:04 2025



    Not sure, are there any errors in the logs, maybe the network command crashes? also which of the bsy files are left?


    Most often than not it is networkb.bsy, sometimes network1.bsy and network2.bsy. Those are the three most common. I'll double check the logs to see what might be going I don't recall seeing anything out of the ordinary.


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  • From Rushfan #1@513.Wwivnet@11:1/101 to R3c0n #1 on Wed Feb 19 07:43:14 2025


    Most often than not it is networkb.bsy, sometimes network1.bsy and network2.bsy. Those are the three most common. I'll double check the
    logs to see what might be going I don't recall seeing anything out of
    the ordinary.

    Sounds good, are you runnning networkb directly or is this from inside of wwivd where it happens automatically?

    rushfan


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  • From R3c0n #1@126.Wwivnet@11:1/101 to Rushfan #1 on Wed Feb 19 17:33:17 2025

    It's happening within wwivd automatically. The only thing we run manually is network1 to hatch an updated .net file or subs.lst out to nodes. We use something similar to netup (I think is what ICEnet / WWIVnet used/uses) and then run network1. The nodes then call in and receive the packet update. I only see networkb.bsy files after a node calls in, unrelated to the netup tool. Currently the hub is not calling out (crashing) nodes, nodes call in to receive packets. It's also contained on it's own server on Ubuntu. But I'll check logs when time allows this weekend.

    On Wednesday,February 19, 2025 at 07:43 AM, Rushfan wrote:

    RE: Re: .bsy signals with WWIV networking
    BY: R3c0n #1 @126

    Most often than not it is networkb.bsy, sometimes network1.bsy and network2.bsy. Those are the three most common. I'll double
    check the
    logs to see what might be going I don't recall seeing anything out of
    the ordinary.

    Sounds good, are you runnning networkb directly or is this from inside
    of wwivd where it happens automatically?

    rushfan



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  • From Patch #1@142.Wwivnet@11:1/101 to Rushfan #1 on Sat Mar 8 22:30:15 2025

    On Tuesday,February 18, 2025 at 07:51 AM, Rushfan wrote:

    Not sure, are there any errors in the logs, maybe the network command crashes? also which of the bsy files are left?

    I had the same issue, I fixed mine by backing up and then deleting the *.bsy fil e and force a network connection from WFC.

    Then I watched for any errors and addressed those, which mostly consisted of the previous receive folder was not 'empty' and could not completely remove it.

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  • From Rushfan #1@513.Wwivnet@11:1/101 to Patch #1 on Sun Mar 9 10:30:32 2025


    I had the same issue, I fixed mine by backing up and then deleting the
    *.bsy fil e and force a network connection from WFC.

    Then I watched for any errors and addressed those, which mostly
    consisted of the previous receive folder was not 'empty' and could
    not completely remove it.

    If you can run that network command with log level --v=4, maybe that'll show the error happening from the filesystem level calls which are casuing that file not to be removed. Warning it's a lot of noise.

    Attaching that to an email to me at my wwivbbs.org emaila ddress and filing an github issue or pinging me on here to take a look since I don't chec internet email often would be helpful.

    Thanks dude.
    rushfan



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  • From Patch #1@142.Wwivnet@11:1/101 to Rushfan #1 on Sun Mar 9 16:20:12 2025

    On Sunday,March 09, 2025 at 09:30 AM, Rushfan wrote:

    If you can run that network command with log level --v=4, maybe that'll
    show the error happening from the filesystem level calls which are
    casuing that file not to be removed. Warning it's a lot of noise.

    Attaching that to an email to me at my wwivbbs.org emaila ddress and
    filing an github issue or pinging me on here to take a look since I
    don't chec internet email often would be helpful.

    Thanks dude.
    rushfan

    |#0 That's a great idea and I will do that the next time I run into it. The |#0 only error that I had in mine was that the receive folder wasn't completely |#0 empty and it wasn't able to remove the temp folder after processing net
    |#0 messages.

    -P

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