I'm in a property on a small, mainly bungalow estate built in '68.
Copper is simply buried in the ground and therefore any time I check I
expect to see "We have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property
yet" .
Last week a number of poles appeared, wires were strung, and today a
man on a cherry picker was putting some device. Further enquiries
show that BTOpenreach have been granted planning permission. The only
other terrestial service is Virgin which I think was installed in the
very early days of cable.
So once again I check:
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker/my-products
"We have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property yet"
Just wondered if EE (ie BTInternet) were able to provide anything!
"Full Fibre 100. 24 months. +U33.99 from 31 March 2026, +U37.99 from 31
March 2027"
Go figure.
On Mon 22/12/2025 19:34, AnthonyL wrote:
I'm in a property on a small, mainly bungalow estate built in '68.
Copper is simply buried in the ground and therefore any time I check I expect to see "We have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property
yet" .
Last week a number of poles appeared, wires were strung, and today a
man on a cherry picker was putting some device. Further enquiries
show that BTOpenreach have been granted planning permission. The only other terrestial service is Virgin which I think was installed in the
very early days of cable.
So once again I check:
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker/my-products
"We have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property yet"
Just wondered if EE (ie BTInternet) were able to provide anything!
"Full Fibre 100. 24 months. +U33.99 from 31 March 2026, +U37.99 from 31 March 2027"
Go figure.
Openreach, usually known as BT Openreach, may operate independently of
BT but they are the same grouping and do all the work for BT/EE. Thus
how could BT provide something that Openreach seemingly cannot.
There are two possibilities here. If your area is wired for VM then
BT-think will not allocate funds etc to provide services when many/most people already have broadband from VM.
The other question is who were the overheads being done for? I would suggest you have a look at Cityfibre.co.uk who don't seem to worry about competition with BT. Here in part of sunny N. Yorks we have BT, VM and Cityfibre all competing for the same business. City are even using BT
poles and ducts!
Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On Mon 22/12/2025 19:34, AnthonyL wrote:
I'm in a property on a small, mainly bungalow estate built in '68.
Copper is simply buried in the ground and therefore any time I
check I expect to see "We have no plans to build Full Fibre to
this property yet" .
Last week a number of poles appeared, wires were strung, and
today a man on a cherry picker was putting some device. Further enquiries show that BTOpenreach have been granted planning
permission. The only other terrestial service is Virgin which I
think was installed in the very early days of cable.
So once again I check: https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker/my-products
"We have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property yet"
Just wondered if EE (ie BTInternet) were able to provide anything!
"Full Fibre 100. 24 months. +U33.99 from 31 March 2026, +U37.99
from 31 March 2027"
Go figure.
Openreach, usually known as BT Openreach, may operate independently
of BT but they are the same grouping and do all the work for BT/EE.
Thus how could BT provide something that Openreach seemingly cannot.
There are two possibilities here. If your area is wired for VM then BT-think will not allocate funds etc to provide services when
many/most people already have broadband from VM.
The other question is who were the overheads being done for? IYes, similar here (CityFibre that is). We are a small, (100 houses)
would suggest you have a look at Cityfibre.co.uk who don't seem to
worry about competition with BT. Here in part of sunny N. Yorks we
have BT, VM and Cityfibre all competing for the same business. City
are even using BT poles and ducts!
rural, Suffolk village and CityFibre came and made their own ducts
throughout the village except our road (which is concrete) where they
have strung overhead fibre on BT's poles. I'm surprised (but happy, I
now have a 1Gb/s connection) that CityFibre felt it was worth it.
On Mon 22/12/2025 19:34, AnthonyL wrote:
I'm in a property on a small, mainly bungalow estate built in '68.
Copper is simply buried in the ground and therefore any time I check I
expect to see "We have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property
yet" .
Last week a number of poles appeared, wires were strung, and today a
man on a cherry picker was putting some device. Further enquiries
show that BTOpenreach have been granted planning permission. The only
other terrestial service is Virgin which I think was installed in the
very early days of cable.
So once again I check:
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker/my-products
"We have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property yet"
Just wondered if EE (ie BTInternet) were able to provide anything!
"Full Fibre 100. 24 months. +U33.99 from 31 March 2026, +U37.99 from 31
March 2027"
Go figure.
Openreach, usually known as BT Openreach, may operate independently of
BT but they are the same grouping and do all the work for BT/EE. Thus
how could BT provide something that Openreach seemingly cannot.
There are two possibilities here. If your area is wired for VM then
BT-think will not allocate funds etc to provide services when many/most >people already have broadband from VM.
The other question is who were the overheads being done for? I would >suggest you have a look at Cityfibre.co.uk who don't seem to worry about >competition with BT. Here in part of sunny N. Yorks we have BT, VM and >Cityfibre all competing for the same business. City are even using BT
poles and ducts!
Further enquiries show that BTOpenreach have been granted planning permission.
From EE: "Full Fibre 100. 24 months. +U33.99 from 31 March 2026, +U37.99 from 31 March 2027"
I said:
1)
Further enquiries show that BTOpenreach have been granted planning permission.
2)
From EE: "Full Fibre 100. 24 months. |a?33.99 from 31 March 2026, |a?37.99 from 31 March 2027"
AIUI EE are the domestic branding for BTInternet.
My point is: why are BTO saying one thing when EE seem to be quite
convinced we will have Fibre availability in 3 months time?
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 23:04:00 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
Openreach, usually known as BT Openreach, may operate independently of
BT but they are the same grouping and do all the work for BT/EE. Thus
how could BT provide something that Openreach seemingly cannot.
I said:
1)
Further enquiries show that BTOpenreach have been granted planning permission.
2)
From EE: "Full Fibre 100. 24 months. +U33.99 from 31 March 2026, +U37.99 from 31 March 2027"
AIUI EE are the domestic branding for BTInternet.
My point is: why are BTO saying one thing when EE seem to be quite
convinced we will have Fibre availability in 3 months time?
I'm in a property on a small, mainly bungalow estate built in '68.
Copper is simply buried in the ground and therefore any time I check I
expect to see "We have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property
yet" .
Last week a number of poles appeared, wires were strung, and today a
man on a cherry picker was putting some device. Further enquiries
show that BTOpenreach have been granted planning permission. The only
other terrestial service is Virgin which I think was installed in the
very early days of cable.
So once again I check:
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker/my-products
"We have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property yet"
Just wondered if EE (ie BTInternet) were able to provide anything!
"Full Fibre 100. 24 months. +U33.99 from 31 March 2026, +U37.99 from 31
March 2027"
Go figure.
My daughter is the proud recipient of Full Fibre at circa 1Gb and has
been for some months now. Check on BT Openreach and it says... "We have
no plans to build Full Fibre to this property yet". Installed by BT Open reach and no one knew it had been provisioned until marketing blurb for
BT/EE landed on their doormat. Funny thing is that they are signed up
with Sky.
We've had FTTP for a while. I was checking every two or three weeks on my ISP's website (AAISP). Openreach were sayomg 'no plans'
I suddenly saw it was apparently available. I walked up the road, and the pole (only a few metres away) had sprouted boxes.
On Thu, 25 Dec 2025 07:31:38 +0000, Andy Newman wrote:
My daughter is the proud recipient of Full Fibre at circa 1Gb and has
been for some months now. Check on BT Openreach and it says... "We have
no plans to build Full Fibre to this property yet". Installed by BT Open
reach and no one knew it had been provisioned until marketing blurb for
BT/EE landed on their doormat. Funny thing is that they are signed up
with Sky.
We've had FTTP for a while. I was checking every two or three weeks on my ISP's website (AAISP). Openreach were sayomg 'no plans'
I suddenly saw it was apparently available. I walked up the road, and the pole (only a few metres away) had sprouted boxes.
I ordered, and two weeks later it was working.
On 25/12/2025 10:33, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 25 Dec 2025 07:31:38 +0000, Andy Newman wrote:
My daughter is the proud recipient of Full Fibre at circa 1Gb and has
been for some months now. Check on BT Openreach and it says... "We
have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property yet". Installed by
BT Open reach and no one knew it had been provisioned until marketing
blurb for BT/EE landed on their doormat. Funny thing is that they are
signed up with Sky.
We've had FTTP for a while. I was checking every two or three weeks on
my ISP's website (AAISP). Openreach were sayomg 'no plans'
I suddenly saw it was apparently available. I walked up the road, and
the pole (only a few metres away) had sprouted boxes.
I ordered, and two weeks later it was working.
Is it from OpenReach or one of the AltNets. Both A&A and Sky use
CityFibre in areas where OpenReach isn't available.
AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
I said:
1)
Further enquiries show that BTOpenreach have been granted planning permission.
2)
From EE: "Full Fibre 100. 24 months. |a?33.99 from 31 March 2026, |a?37.99 from 31 March 2027"
AIUI EE are the domestic branding for BTInternet.
My point is: why are BTO saying one thing when EE seem to be quite
convinced we will have Fibre availability in 3 months time?
Openreach are obliged to put in fibre for new builds where there are two or >more units. I think they might be voluntarily doing it for single new
builds too. That means if anyone is doing works that might constitute a
'new build', for example building an annexe or converting a house into
two flats, OR may string the fibre to them even when they aren't planning on >converting the rest of the area. That may be why you see fibre but OR
aren't offering service.
It's possible EE are just saying it's available by mistake, and you might >discover it's not available when you come to order.
On 22/12/2025 19:34, AnthonyL wrote:
I'm in a property on a small, mainly bungalow estate built in '68.My daughter is the proud recipient of Full Fibre at circa 1Gb and has
Copper is simply buried in the ground and therefore any time I check I
expect to see "We have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property
yet" .
Last week a number of poles appeared, wires were strung, and today a
man on a cherry picker was putting some device. Further enquiries
show that BTOpenreach have been granted planning permission. The only
other terrestial service is Virgin which I think was installed in the
very early days of cable.
So once again I check:
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker/my-products
"We have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property yet"
Just wondered if EE (ie BTInternet) were able to provide anything!
"Full Fibre 100. 24 months. +U33.99 from 31 March 2026, +U37.99 from 31
March 2027"
Go figure.
been for some months now. Check on BT Openreach and it says... "We have
no plans to build Full Fibre to this property yet". Installed by BT Open >reach and no one knew it had been provisioned until marketing blurb for >BT/EE landed on their doormat. Funny thing is that they are signed up
with Sky.
Bob Eager wrote:
We've had FTTP for a while. I was checking every two or three weeks on my
ISP's website (AAISP). Openreach were sayomg 'no plans'
I suddenly saw it was apparently available. I walked up the road, and the
pole (only a few metres away) had sprouted boxes.
No poles here, all underground, Openreach are saying we'll get FTTP in
2026 ... but Cadent did a fairly comprehensive job of crushing the ducts >every 10 yards last year when replacing the gas mains ...
On 23 Dec 2025 19:56:42 +0000 (GMT), Theo
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
I said:
1)
Further enquiries show that BTOpenreach have been granted planning permission.
2)
From EE: "Full Fibre 100. 24 months. |a??33.99 from 31 March 2026, |a??37.99 from 31 March 2027"
AIUI EE are the domestic branding for BTInternet.
My point is: why are BTO saying one thing when EE seem to be quite
convinced we will have Fibre availability in 3 months time?
Openreach are obliged to put in fibre for new builds where there are two or >more units. I think they might be voluntarily doing it for single new >builds too. That means if anyone is doing works that might constitute a >'new build', for example building an annexe or converting a house into
two flats, OR may string the fibre to them even when they aren't planning on >converting the rest of the area. That may be why you see fibre but OR >aren't offering service.
It's possible EE are just saying it's available by mistake, and you might >discover it's not available when you come to order.
EE do not have a price listed for BEFORE 31 Mar 2026, only their
standard FTTC.
AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
On 23 Dec 2025 19:56:42 +0000 (GMT), Theo
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
I said:
1)
Further enquiries show that BTOpenreach have been granted planning permission.
2)
From EE: "Full Fibre 100. 24 months. |a??33.99 from 31 March 2026,
|a??37.99 from 31 March 2027"
AIUI EE are the domestic branding for BTInternet.
My point is: why are BTO saying one thing when EE seem to be quite
convinced we will have Fibre availability in 3 months time?
Openreach are obliged to put in fibre for new builds where there are two or >>> more units. I think they might be voluntarily doing it for single new
builds too. That means if anyone is doing works that might constitute a >>> 'new build', for example building an annexe or converting a house into
two flats, OR may string the fibre to them even when they aren't planning on
converting the rest of the area. That may be why you see fibre but OR
aren't offering service.
It's possible EE are just saying it's available by mistake, and you might >>> discover it's not available when you come to order.
EE do not have a price listed for BEFORE 31 Mar 2026, only their
standard FTTC.
That's their boilerplate 'your prices will go up every April' legally required notice. I don't think it has any relevance to the availability of FTTP at any particular date.
Theo
We've had FTTP for a while. I was checking every two or three weeks
on my ISP's website (AAISP). Openreach were sayomg 'no plans'
I suddenly saw it was apparently available. I walked up the road,
and the pole (only a few metres away) had sprouted boxes.
I ordered, and two weeks later it was working.
Any thoughts?
I have a Giganet manhole on the pavement outside my property and a
BT manhole.
BUT because I am one of 4 houses on a private drive neither can
offer FTTP because they aren't willing to (or can't) dig up the
drive.
Looks like area isn't enough, it's right down to house number!
On 30/12/2025 in message <5c936227d7bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> Bob Latham wrote:
Any thoughts?
I have a Giganet manhole on the pavement outside my property and a BT manhole.
BUT because I am one of 4 houses on a private drive neither can offer FTTP because they aren't willing to (or can't) dig up the drive.
Looks like area isn't enough, it's right down to house number!
Then yesterday I looked on Openreach and got a surprise but do they
mean it? It says with my address and post code on the page "We'll be
building in this area in the next year" You'll get 1600Mbps down and
115Mbps up.
If you express interest you get.. "We're happy to confirm that we
have a plan to bring Full Fibre to you."
Now that information was a on a page with my full address on, is this
'pinch of salt time' or are they likely to do it?
I'm in a property on a small, mainly bungalow estate built in '68.
Copper is simply buried in the ground and therefore any time I check I
expect to see "We have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property
yet" .
Last week a number of poles appeared, wires were strung, and today a
man on a cherry picker was putting some device. Further enquiries
show that BTOpenreach have been granted planning permission. The only
other terrestial service is Virgin which I think was installed in the
very early days of cable.
So once again I check:
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker/my-products
"We have no plans to build Full Fibre to this property yet"
Just wondered if EE (ie BTInternet) were able to provide anything!
"Full Fibre 100. 24 months. u33.99 from 31 March 2026, u37.99 from 31
March 2027"
Go figure.
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