"With criminals now cold-calling people in Britain to 'harvest' samples
of their voice to use in fraud, there are some simple steps most people
can take to protect themselves, such as registering to avoid marketing cold-calls."
Good luck with that.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/direct-debit-scam-phone-call-block-setting-085307406.html--
"With criminals now cold-calling people in Britain to 'harvest' samples
of their voice to use in fraud, there are some simple steps most people
can take to protect themselves, such as registering to avoid marketing >cold-calls."
Good luck with that.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/direct-debit-scam-phone-call-block-setting-085307406.html
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 11:19:03 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
"With criminals now cold-calling people in Britain to 'harvest'
samples of their voice to use in fraud, there are some simple steps
most people can take to protect themselves, such as registering to
avoid marketing cold-calls."
Good luck with that.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/direct-debit-scam-phone-call-block-setting-085307406.html
"The criminals then use this information to create AI-generated voice
clones of the person, and then call financial institutions to set up payments."
"The voice clones could then be used to set up payments with banks and
other legitimate businesses and financial providers without the
victimrCOs knowledge, NTS said."
How is that supposed to work? Unless the financial institution has
that person's voice in their system (with permission to store and use
it), how can the criminals establish identification just by sounding
like somebody else? I opted out of voice recognition with my bank.
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 11:19:03 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
"With criminals now cold-calling people in Britain to 'harvest'
samples of their voice to use in fraud, there are some simple steps
most people can take to protect themselves, such as registering to
avoid marketing cold-calls."
Good luck with that.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/direct-debit-scam-phone-call-block-setting-085307406.html
"The criminals then use this information to create AI-generated voice clones of the person, and then call financial institutions to set up payments."
"The voice clones could then be used to set up payments with banks and other legitimate businesses and financial providers without the
victimrCOs knowledge, NTS said."
How is that supposed to work? Unless the financial institution has
that person's voice in their system (with permission to store and use
it), how can the criminals establish identification just by sounding
like somebody else? I opted out of voice recognition with my bank.
I don't know, the picture shows a smart phone. I haven't ventured into
smart phone banking. Some banks are exclusively smart phone so maybe
they use this method of identification? e.g. Revolut.
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 11:19:03 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
"With criminals now cold-calling people in Britain to 'harvest'
samples of their voice to use in fraud, there are some simple steps
most people can take to protect themselves, such as registering to
avoid marketing cold-calls."
Good luck with that.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/direct-debit-scam-phone-call-block-setting-085307406.html
"The criminals then use this information to create AI-generated voice
clones of the person, and then call financial institutions to set up
payments."
"The voice clones could then be used to set up payments with banks and
other legitimate businesses and financial providers without the
victimAs knowledge, NTS said."
How is that supposed to work? Unless the financial institution has
that person's voice in their system (with permission to store and use
it), how can the criminals establish identification just by sounding
like somebody else? I opted out of voice recognition with my bank.
I don't know, the picture shows a smart phone. I haven't ventured into
smart phone banking. Some banks are exclusively smart phone so maybe
they use this method of identification? e.g. Revolut.
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 13:12:35 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 11:19:03 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
"With criminals now cold-calling people in Britain to 'harvest'
samples of their voice to use in fraud, there are some simple steps >>>>most people can take to protect themselves, such as registering to >>>>avoid marketing cold-calls."
Good luck with that.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/direct-debit-scam-phone-call-block-setting-085307406.html
"The criminals then use this information to create AI-generated
voice clones of the person, and then call financial institutions to
set up payments."
"The voice clones could then be used to set up payments with banks
and other legitimate businesses and financial providers without the
victimrCOs knowledge, NTS said."
How is that supposed to work? Unless the financial institution has
that person's voice in their system (with permission to store and
use it), how can the criminals establish identification just by
sounding like somebody else? I opted out of voice recognition with
my bank.
I don't know, the picture shows a smart phone. I haven't ventured into >>smart phone banking. Some banks are exclusively smart phone so maybe
they use this method of identification? e.g. Revolut.
Maybe they do, maybe they don't but how is a scammer in possession of
a cloned voice supposed to know which bank the victim uses?
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 13:12:35 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 11:19:03 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
"With criminals now cold-calling people in Britain to 'harvest'
samples of their voice to use in fraud, there are some simple steps
most people can take to protect themselves, such as registering to
avoid marketing cold-calls."
Good luck with that.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/direct-debit-scam-phone-call-block-setting-085307406.html
"The criminals then use this information to create AI-generated voice
clones of the person, and then call financial institutions to set up
payments."
"The voice clones could then be used to set up payments with banks and
other legitimate businesses and financial providers without the
victimrCOs knowledge, NTS said."
How is that supposed to work? Unless the financial institution has
that person's voice in their system (with permission to store and use
it), how can the criminals establish identification just by sounding
like somebody else? I opted out of voice recognition with my bank.
I don't know, the picture shows a smart phone. I haven't ventured into
smart phone banking. Some banks are exclusively smart phone so maybe
they use this method of identification? e.g. Revolut.
Maybe they do, maybe they don't but how is a scammer in possession of
a cloned voice supposed to know which bank the victim uses?
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 13:12:35 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 11:19:03 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote: >>>>
"With criminals now cold-calling people in Britain to 'harvest' >>>>>samples of their voice to use in fraud, there are some simple steps >>>>>most people can take to protect themselves, such as registering to >>>>>avoid marketing cold-calls."
Good luck with that.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/direct-debit-scam-phone-call-block-setting-085307406.html
"The criminals then use this information to create AI-generated
voice clones of the person, and then call financial institutions to
set up payments."
"The voice clones could then be used to set up payments with banks
and other legitimate businesses and financial providers without the
victimrCOs knowledge, NTS said."
How is that supposed to work? Unless the financial institution has
that person's voice in their system (with permission to store and
use it), how can the criminals establish identification just by
sounding like somebody else? I opted out of voice recognition with
my bank.
I don't know, the picture shows a smart phone. I haven't ventured into >>>smart phone banking. Some banks are exclusively smart phone so maybe
they use this method of identification? e.g. Revolut.
Maybe they do, maybe they don't but how is a scammer in possession of
a cloned voice supposed to know which bank the victim uses?
If I had to speculate I would say data breaches, e.g. email hacked
linked to telephone number.
https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/20/revolut-cyberattack-thousands-exposed/
Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:Thanks to both you and The Natural Philosopher for clarifying an area
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 13:12:35 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 11:19:03 +0000, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote: >>>>>
"With criminals now cold-calling people in Britain to 'harvest' >>>>>>samples of their voice to use in fraud, there are some simple steps >>>>>>most people can take to protect themselves, such as registering to >>>>>>avoid marketing cold-calls."
Good luck with that.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/direct-debit-scam-phone-call-block-setting-085307406.html
"The criminals then use this information to create AI-generated
voice clones of the person, and then call financial institutions to
set up payments."
"The voice clones could then be used to set up payments with banks
and other legitimate businesses and financial providers without the
victimAs knowledge, NTS said."
How is that supposed to work? Unless the financial institution has
that person's voice in their system (with permission to store and
use it), how can the criminals establish identification just by
sounding like somebody else? I opted out of voice recognition with
my bank.
I don't know, the picture shows a smart phone. I haven't ventured into >>>>smart phone banking. Some banks are exclusively smart phone so maybe >>>>they use this method of identification? e.g. Revolut.
Maybe they do, maybe they don't but how is a scammer in possession of
a cloned voice supposed to know which bank the victim uses?
If I had to speculate I would say data breaches, e.g. email hacked
linked to telephone number.
https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/20/revolut-cyberattack-thousands-exposed/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw99ql0239wo
"Ticketmaster owner Live Nation confirmed "unauthorised activity" on its >database after a group of hackers said they had stolen the personal
details of 560 million customers.
ShinyHunters, the group claiming responsibility, says the stolen data >includes names, addresses, phone numbers and partial credit card details
from Ticketmaster users worldwide.
"
On 06/02/2026 11:19, Richmond wrote:
"With criminals now cold-calling people in Britain to 'harvest' samplesIndeed.
of their voice to use in fraud, there are some simple steps most people
can take to protect themselves, such as registering to avoid marketing
cold-calls."
Good luck with that.
I find the best response is to wait until they start talking.
If they say "Is that Mr (my name)?" then I respond. It's usually-a the hospital / surgery calling.
If they say "'good morning, I am from...." I put the phone down. Or say 'bollocks you are' and *then* put the phone down...
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/direct-debit-scam-phone-call-block-
setting-085307406.html
On 06/02/2026 12:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/02/2026 11:19, Richmond wrote:
"With criminals now cold-calling people in Britain to 'harvest' samplesIndeed.
of their voice to use in fraud, there are some simple steps most people
can take to protect themselves, such as registering to avoid marketing
cold-calls."
Good luck with that.
I find the best response is to wait until they start talking.
If they say "Is that Mr (my name)?" then I respond. It's usuallya the
hospital / surgery calling.
If they say "'good morning, I am from...." I put the phone down. Or say
'bollocks you are' and *then* put the phone down...
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/direct-debit-scam-phone-call-block-
setting-085307406.html
I usually ask them who they want to speak to. If they avoid that
question more than once, or if they want to speak to "Moosah" (that's
what it sounds like) I say "Wrong number" and put the phone down.
I don't know who the hell this "Moosah" is, but a surprisingly large
number of calls seem to be for him. He doesn't seem to have a surname.
Some use voice ID for phone banking, including HMRC:
On 06/02/2026 13:26, Theo wrote:
Some use voice ID for phone banking, including HMRC:
Didn't a radio programme ("More or Less"?) fool one of those systems
with a recording of the person's voice?
"The criminals then use this information to create AI-generated voice
clones of the person, and then call financial institutions to set up payments."
On Fri, 6 Feb 2026 15:29:09 +0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On 06/02/2026 12:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/02/2026 11:19, Richmond wrote:
"With criminals now cold-calling people in Britain to 'harvest'Indeed.
samples of their voice to use in fraud, there are some simple
steps most people can take to protect themselves, such as
registering to avoid marketing cold-calls."
Good luck with that.
I find the best response is to wait until they start talking.
If they say "Is that Mr (my name)?" then I respond. It's usually
the hospital / surgery calling.
If they say "'good morning, I am from...." I put the phone down.
Or say 'bollocks you are' and *then* put the phone down...
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/direct-debit-scam-phone-call-block-
setting-085307406.html
I usually ask them who they want to speak to. If they avoid that
question more than once, or if they want to speak to "Moosah"
(that's what it sounds like) I say "Wrong number" and put the phone
down.
I don't know who the hell this "Moosah" is, but a surprisingly large >number of calls seem to be for him. He doesn't seem to have a
surname.
I assume it's Mr as the master of the household.
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