• Telephone Directory

    From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.telecom on Mon Jan 5 18:02:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    I discovered earlier that, now BT no longer send out paper copies of the telephone directories, you can download a PDF copy of the local
    directory - local town usually rather than whole telephone area.

    It does mean you can do a search of the PDF for words in an address and
    of course you can keep a copy of the local directory on a PC or phone.

    https://www.bt.com/help/the-phone-book/a-z-directory-finder




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  • From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to uk.telecom on Mon Jan 5 20:44:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 05.01.2026 18:02 Uhr JMB99 wrote:

    I discovered earlier that, now BT no longer send out paper copies of
    the telephone directories, you can download a PDF copy of the local directory - local town usually rather than whole telephone area.

    It does mean you can do a search of the PDF for words in an address
    and of course you can keep a copy of the local directory on a PC or
    phone.

    https://www.bt.com/help/the-phone-book/a-z-directory-finder

    In various countries, e.g. Germany, a public web-telephone directory is available for a long time. Subscribers can choose not to be included
    here.

    Is that different in the UK?
    --
    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to 1767632535muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

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  • From Roger Mills@mills37.fslife@gmail.com to uk.telecom on Mon Jan 5 21:53:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 05/01/2026 19:44, Marco Moock wrote:
    On 05.01.2026 18:02 Uhr JMB99 wrote:

    I discovered earlier that, now BT no longer send out paper copies of
    the telephone directories, you can download a PDF copy of the local
    directory - local town usually rather than whole telephone area.

    It does mean you can do a search of the PDF for words in an address
    and of course you can keep a copy of the local directory on a PC or
    phone.

    https://www.bt.com/help/the-phone-book/a-z-directory-finder

    In various countries, e.g. Germany, a public web-telephone directory is available for a long time. Subscribers can choose not to be included
    here.

    Is that different in the UK?

    No, you can opt out in the UK. In fact, some people - myself included -
    got opted out by default when changing phone line provider.

    It took me a while to find my area to download. I live in Warwick, but
    it's not listed in the W's. So I tried the L's incase my area covered Leamington & Warwick, but it was not there either. So I searched for
    Warwick in the index rather than using the A-Z, and found that my area
    is Stratford-upon-Avon and Warwick - which is the last place I would
    have looked!
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.telecom on Tue Jan 6 10:19:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 05/01/2026 21:53, Roger Mills wrote:
    It took me a while to find my area to download. I live in Warwick, but
    it's not listed in the W's. So I tried the L's incase my area covered Leamington & Warwick, but it was not there either. So I searched for
    Warwick in the index rather than using the A-Z, and found that my area
    is Stratford-upon-Avon and Warwick - which is the last place I would
    have looked!



    Probably just the old telephone areas.



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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.telecom on Tue Jan 6 10:21:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 05/01/2026 19:44, Marco Moock wrote:
    Is that different in the UK?



    It has been available online for many years but the paper copy was only dropped a few years ago.


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.telecom on Tue Jan 6 10:23:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 05/01/2026 19:44, Marco Moock wrote:
    On 05.01.2026 18:02 Uhr JMB99 wrote:

    I discovered earlier that, now BT no longer send out paper copies of
    the telephone directories, you can download a PDF copy of the local
    directory - local town usually rather than whole telephone area.

    It does mean you can do a search of the PDF for words in an address
    and of course you can keep a copy of the local directory on a PC or
    phone.

    https://www.bt.com/help/the-phone-book/a-z-directory-finder

    In various countries, e.g. Germany, a public web-telephone directory is available for a long time. Subscribers can choose not to be included
    here.

    Is that different in the UK?

    TBH I have no idea. I haven't used a telephone directory in years and
    have always been 'ex-directory'
    --
    The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before
    its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

    Anon.

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  • From jkn@jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk to uk.telecom on Tue Jan 6 11:56:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 05/01/2026 18:02, JMB99 wrote:
    I discovered earlier that, now BT no longer send out paper copies of the telephone directories, you can download a PDF copy of the local
    directory - local town usually rather than whole telephone area.

    It does mean you can do a search of the PDF for words in an address and
    of course you can keep a copy of the local directory on a PC or phone.

    https://www.bt.com/help/the-phone-book/a-z-directory-finder




    Thanks for that, I have downloaded a copy.

    Amusingly enough I noticed a residential listing:

    LASTNAME, Emma
    <address> <tel no>

    I wonder if someone filled in a form oddly...

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  • From Peter Johnson@peter@parksidewood.nospam to uk.telecom on Tue Jan 6 16:49:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 10:21:59 +0000, JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 05/01/2026 19:44, Marco Moock wrote:
    Is that different in the UK?



    It has been available online for many years but the paper copy was only >dropped a few years ago.


    BT used to run a directory search site but that has been dropped now,
    in favour of the directory download system referred to.
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  • From Peter Johnson@peter@parksidewood.nospam to uk.telecom on Tue Jan 6 16:50:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 21:53:40 +0000, Roger Mills
    <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:


    It took me a while to find my area to download. I live in Warwick, but
    it's not listed in the W's. So I tried the L's incase my area covered >Leamington & Warwick, but it was not there either. So I searched for
    Warwick in the index rather than using the A-Z, and found that my area
    is Stratford-upon-Avon and Warwick - which is the last place I would
    have looked!

    I recently wanted the number of someone in Hythe, near Folkestone, and
    it took me several attempts before I found them in the Canterbury
    directorty.
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom on Tue Jan 6 21:16:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 2026/1/6 11:56:14, jkn wrote:
    On 05/01/2026 18:02, JMB99 wrote:
    I discovered earlier that, now BT no longer send out paper copies of the
    telephone directories, you can download a PDF copy of the local
    directory - local town usually rather than whole telephone area.

    It does mean you can do a search of the PDF for words in an address and
    of course you can keep a copy of the local directory on a PC or phone.

    https://www.bt.com/help/the-phone-book/a-z-directory-finder




    Thanks for that, I have downloaded a copy.

    Amusingly enough I noticed a residential listing:

    LASTNAME, Emma
    <address> <tel no>

    I wonder if someone filled in a form oddly...

    I remember on "That's Life", they found someone listed under Wongnumba -
    and rang him live on the programme.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    What good is a smart phone with a dumb user?
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  • From Bob Eager@news0009@eager.cx to uk.telecom on Tue Jan 6 21:50:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On Tue, 06 Jan 2026 21:16:31 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    I remember on "That's Life", they found someone listed under Wongnumba -
    and rang him live on the programme.

    That dates you..and by definition, I know you are quite a bit younger than
    me!
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom on Tue Jan 6 22:25:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 2026/1/6 21:50:23, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Tue, 06 Jan 2026 21:16:31 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    I remember on "That's Life", they found someone listed under Wongnumba -
    and rang him live on the programme.

    That dates you..and by definition, I know you are quite a bit younger than me!

    Even at the time, I thought it was rather an irresponsible thing to do. Probably 1970s (my teens).

    BT used to have a directory enquiries function on their website; I think
    it was always difficult to find. Last time I tried (and that was many
    years ago) I couldn't find it. I assumed it had been removed under
    pressure from the 118 companies (including BT's own).
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Diplomacy is the art of letting someone have your way.
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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to uk.telecom on Tue Jan 6 23:21:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:

    On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 10:21:59 +0000, JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 05/01/2026 19:44, Marco Moock wrote:
    Is that different in the UK?



    It has been available online for many years but the paper copy was only >dropped a few years ago.


    BT used to run a directory search site but that has been dropped now,
    in favour of the directory download system referred to.


    Searching for 'BT telephone directory lookup [town county]'
    (skip the sponsored sites) will take you directly to the relevant
    BT directory.pdf which is itself searchable online.
    --
    ^-^. Sn!pe My pet rock Gordon has lost count.

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  • From Rupert Moss-Eccardt@news@moss-eccardt.com to uk.telecom on Wed Jan 7 09:37:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 6 Jan 2026 11:56, jkn wrote:
    On 05/01/2026 18:02, JMB99 wrote:
    I discovered earlier that, now BT no longer send out paper copies of the
    telephone directories, you can download a PDF copy of the local
    directory - local town usually rather than whole telephone area.

    It does mean you can do a search of the PDF for words in an address and
    of course you can keep a copy of the local directory on a PC or phone.

    https://www.bt.com/help/the-phone-book/a-z-directory-finder




    Thanks for that, I have downloaded a copy.

    Amusingly enough I noticed a residential listing:

    LASTNAME, Emma
    <address> <tel no>


    There is no legal requirement for someone to have a first name and
    last name. So it is possibly to have just one name.

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  • From Bob Eager@news0009@eager.cx to uk.telecom on Wed Jan 7 11:49:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 09:37:29 +0000, Rupert Moss-Eccardt wrote:

    There is no legal requirement for someone to have a first name and last
    name. So it is possibly to have just one name.

    Two friends of mine have that. One is named after a moon of Saturn, the
    other after a weasel-like animal.

    They did the change when students, about 30 years ago. It caused the
    student records system some grief.
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom on Wed Jan 7 16:19:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 2026/1/6 23:21:27, Sn!pe wrote:
    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
    []
    BT used to run a directory search site but that has been dropped now,
    in favour of the directory download system referred to.


    Searching for 'BT telephone directory lookup [town county]'
    (skip the sponsored sites) will take you directly to the relevant
    BT directory.pdf which is itself searchable online.

    (Useful to know, thanks.) Presumably these PDFs can be searched for
    number, thus allowing a reverse lookup; ISTR that was once thought
    undesirable, though I forget why.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom on Wed Jan 7 16:21:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 2026/1/7 11:49:10, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 09:37:29 +0000, Rupert Moss-Eccardt wrote:

    There is no legal requirement for someone to have a first name and last
    name. So it is possibly to have just one name.

    Two friends of mine have that. One is named after a moon of Saturn, the other after a weasel-like animal.

    They did the change when students, about 30 years ago. It caused the
    student records system some grief.
    Other than just to do that, do you know what their reason was? (Or were?)--
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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  • From Bob Eager@news0009@eager.cx to uk.telecom on Wed Jan 7 22:18:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 16:19:17 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    On 2026/1/6 23:21:27, Sn!pe wrote:
    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:

    []

    BT used to run a directory search site but that has been dropped now,
    in favour of the directory download system referred to.


    Searching for 'BT telephone directory lookup [town county]' (skip the
    sponsored sites) will take you directly to the relevant BT
    directory.pdf which is itself searchable online.

    (Useful to know, thanks.) Presumably these PDFs can be searched for
    number, thus allowing a reverse lookup; ISTR that was once thought undesirable, though I forget why.

    They don't seem to be searchable, although I suppose you could OCR them if
    you really wanted to.
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom on Wed Jan 7 22:30:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 2026/1/7 22:18:12, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 16:19:17 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    On 2026/1/6 23:21:27, Sn!pe wrote:
    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:

    []

    BT used to run a directory search site but that has been dropped now,
    in favour of the directory download system referred to.


    Searching for 'BT telephone directory lookup [town county]' (skip the
    sponsored sites) will take you directly to the relevant BT
    directory.pdf which is itself searchable online.

    (Useful to know, thanks.) Presumably these PDFs can be searched for
    number, thus allowing a reverse lookup; ISTR that was once thought
    undesirable, though I forget why.

    They don't seem to be searchable, although I suppose you could OCR them if you really wanted to.

    Oh, so they're images (scans of the printed versions)?
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Now, don't worry. We'll be right behind you. Hiding.
    (First series, fit the sixth.)
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  • From Bob Eager@news0009@eager.cx to uk.telecom on Wed Jan 7 22:39:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:30:58 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    On 2026/1/7 22:18:12, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 16:19:17 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    On 2026/1/6 23:21:27, Sn!pe wrote:
    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:

    []

    BT used to run a directory search site but that has been dropped
    now,
    in favour of the directory download system referred to.


    Searching for 'BT telephone directory lookup [town county]' (skip the
    sponsored sites) will take you directly to the relevant BT
    directory.pdf which is itself searchable online.

    (Useful to know, thanks.) Presumably these PDFs can be searched for
    number, thus allowing a reverse lookup; ISTR that was once thought
    undesirable, though I forget why.

    They don't seem to be searchable, although I suppose you could OCR them
    if you really wanted to.

    Oh, so they're images (scans of the printed versions)?

    Presumably, but they aren't all that big. I tried to extract the images
    and it failed with a protection error.
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  • From NY@me@privacy.net to uk.telecom on Wed Jan 7 22:50:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 07/01/2026 11:49, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 09:37:29 +0000, Rupert Moss-Eccardt wrote:

    There is no legal requirement for someone to have a first name and last
    name. So it is possibly to have just one name.

    Two friends of mine have that. One is named after a moon of Saturn, the
    other after a weasel-like animal.

    They did the change when students, about 30 years ago. It caused the
    student records system some grief.


    Talking of weird names, I remember there used to be an entry in the
    Oxford phone book (which covered Aylesbury) for someone with the
    unlikely name of Burps Butterfly (or maybe it was Butterfly Burps). That
    was in the late 70s or the early 80s.
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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.telecom on Wed Jan 7 23:06:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 23:21:27 +0000
    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:

    On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 10:21:59 +0000, JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 05/01/2026 19:44, Marco Moock wrote:
    Is that different in the UK?



    It has been available online for many years but the paper copy was
    only dropped a few years ago.


    BT used to run a directory search site but that has been dropped
    now, in favour of the directory download system referred to.


    Searching for 'BT telephone directory lookup [town county]'
    (skip the sponsored sites) will take you directly to the relevant
    BT directory.pdf which is itself searchable online.


    I live in a village near Diss, on the Suffolk/Norfolk border. We used
    to be in the Bury St. Edmunds directory. The online one does not
    include us, but the South Norfolk and Lowestoft one does. But neither
    of our local pubs are listed, nor am I. My two closest neighbours are
    not listed, but one three houses down is.
    The big solicitors' company, which was taken over several years ago and
    changed its name, and was closed down completely at least a year ago,
    is still listed under its original name and address.
    Strange. This does not encourage confidence in the listings.
    --
    Davey.

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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.telecom on Wed Jan 7 23:18:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 07/01/2026 22:18, Bob Eager wrote:
    They don't seem to be searchable, although I suppose you could OCR them if you really wanted to.



    I searched them without any problem?

    It is a PDF file so searchable, just checked by downloading a file and
    did a search successfully.





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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.telecom on Wed Jan 7 23:20:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 07/01/2026 23:06, Davey wrote:
    I live in a village near Diss, on the Suffolk/Norfolk border. We used
    to be in the Bury St. Edmunds directory. The online one does not
    include us, but the South Norfolk and Lowestoft one does. But neither
    of our local pubs are listed, nor am I. My two closest neighbours are
    not listed, but one three houses down is.
    The big solicitors' company, which was taken over several years ago and changed its name, and was closed down completely at least a year ago,
    is still listed under its original name and address.
    Strange. This does not encourage confidence in the listings.



    Were all these in the paper directory?



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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.telecom on Thu Jan 8 01:33:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 23:20:15 +0000
    JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 07/01/2026 23:06, Davey wrote:
    I live in a village near Diss, on the Suffolk/Norfolk border. We
    used to be in the Bury St. Edmunds directory. The online one does
    not include us, but the South Norfolk and Lowestoft one does. But
    neither of our local pubs are listed, nor am I. My two closest
    neighbours are not listed, but one three houses down is.
    The big solicitors' company, which was taken over several years ago
    and changed its name, and was closed down completely at least a
    year ago, is still listed under its original name and address.
    Strange. This does not encourage confidence in the listings.



    Were all these in the paper directory?




    The pubs certainly were. I'll have to see if I still have a paper copy
    to check the others.

    There is no doubt about the solicitor company.
    --
    Davey.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom on Thu Jan 8 05:40:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 2026/1/7 22:39:28, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:30:58 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    On 2026/1/7 22:18:12, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 16:19:17 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    On 2026/1/6 23:21:27, Sn!pe wrote:
    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:

    []

    BT used to run a directory search site but that has been dropped
    now,
    in favour of the directory download system referred to.


    Searching for 'BT telephone directory lookup [town county]' (skip the >>>>> sponsored sites) will take you directly to the relevant BT
    directory.pdf which is itself searchable online.

    (Useful to know, thanks.) Presumably these PDFs can be searched for
    number, thus allowing a reverse lookup; ISTR that was once thought
    undesirable, though I forget why.

    They don't seem to be searchable, although I suppose you could OCR them
    if you really wanted to.

    Oh, so they're images (scans of the printed versions)?

    Presumably, but they aren't all that big. I tried to extract the images
    and it failed with a protection error.

    Do they look as if they're scans of a print - dirt specks, or slight misalignment - or electronically created?

    What did you use to try to extract? I have one or two utilities (Renee
    PDF Aide, Free PDF to Word Doc Converter, PDFsam Basic [I think the last
    is best]), but I've found by far the easiest to use is online - there
    are plenty, but I think https://pdfextractor.com/ is the one I've found
    easiest to use. (It has a size limit, but you say not that big.) Of
    course, using online tools has a security implication - obviously you're uploading your PDF - but I can't see that's a problem here, nor for most
    of the extractions I want to do, which are mostly things like birth/marriage/death certificates (from a long time back - genealogy is
    a hobby of mine) where someone has uploaded the scans in PDF form. (I
    think the GRO produce them as PDF, as well as people who've scanned certificates they have but done so as PDF, which used to be the default
    for scanning softwares for office use.)
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Worst programme ever made? I was in hospital once having a knee
    operation and I watched a whole episode of "EastEnders". Ugh! I suppose
    it's true to life. But so is diarrhoea - and I don't want to see that
    on television. - Patrick Moore, in Radio Times 12-18 May 2007.
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom on Thu Jan 8 05:44:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 2026/1/7 23:18:49, JMB99 wrote:
    On 07/01/2026 22:18, Bob Eager wrote:
    They don't seem to be searchable, although I suppose you could OCR them if >> you really wanted to.



    I searched them without any problem?

    It is a PDF file so searchable, just checked by downloading a file and
    did a search successfully.





    Depends what the PDF file contains; if just (formatted) text, then
    (unless it's been created _very_ deliberately by positioning characters)
    no problem; if images (scans of printed pages), needs more work. But of
    you were able to search it, suggests it _is_ just text; Bob's post
    suggested it was images.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Worst programme ever made? I was in hospital once having a knee
    operation and I watched a whole episode of "EastEnders". Ugh! I suppose
    it's true to life. But so is diarrhoea - and I don't want to see that
    on television. - Patrick Moore, in Radio Times 12-18 May 2007.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.telecom on Thu Jan 8 11:14:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 07/01/2026 23:18, JMB99 wrote:
    On 07/01/2026 22:18, Bob Eager wrote:
    They don't seem to be searchable, although I suppose you could OCR
    them if
    you really wanted to.



    I searched them without any problem?

    It is a PDF file so searchable,

    Assuming it contains text, not an image...

    just checked by downloading a file and
    did a search successfully.





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  • From Roger Mills@mills37.fslife@gmail.com to uk.telecom on Thu Jan 8 11:53:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 08/01/2026 11:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 07/01/2026 23:18, JMB99 wrote:
    On 07/01/2026 22:18, Bob Eager wrote:
    They don't seem to be searchable, although I suppose you could OCR
    them if
    you really wanted to.



    I searched them without any problem?

    It is a PDF file so searchable,

    Assuming it contains text, not an image...

    -ajust checked by downloading a file and
    did a search successfully.



    Yes, I can search mine, too - using Foxit Reader, so I assume that the
    same would apply to Acrobat.

    It's not structured, of course - it's just text, so you can't search individual fields. For example, if you search for "Montgomery" it will
    find all instances of that word whether they be people's names or parts
    of the address.

    It is password protected, so can't be edited unless you know the password.

    As others have noted, it does contain some odd entries, as though it's
    been created by digitising speech. For instance, a person I know whose
    given names are Leyland Roy is listed as Leyl & Roy !!!

    Is does also allow reverse searches to be made by searching for the number.
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger
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  • From Bob Eager@news0009@eager.cx to uk.telecom on Thu Jan 8 12:40:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 05:40:57 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    On 2026/1/7 22:39:28, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:30:58 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    On 2026/1/7 22:18:12, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 16:19:17 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    On 2026/1/6 23:21:27, Sn!pe wrote:
    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:

    []

    BT used to run a directory search site but that has been dropped >>>>>>> now,
    in favour of the directory download system referred to.


    Searching for 'BT telephone directory lookup [town county]' (skip
    the sponsored sites) will take you directly to the relevant BT
    directory.pdf which is itself searchable online.

    (Useful to know, thanks.) Presumably these PDFs can be searched for
    number, thus allowing a reverse lookup; ISTR that was once thought
    undesirable, though I forget why.

    They don't seem to be searchable, although I suppose you could OCR
    them if you really wanted to.

    Oh, so they're images (scans of the printed versions)?

    Presumably, but they aren't all that big. I tried to extract the images
    and it failed with a protection error.

    Do they look as if they're scans of a print - dirt specks, or slight misalignment - or electronically created?

    No, they are very clean. I don't actually think they are images at all. I think the extraction utility (for images) just said that becaise the file
    is clearly protected.

    What did you use to try to extract?

    pdfimages from poppler-utils (not on Windows, nor online).

    The file is encrypted, presumable to stop manipulation. The metadata
    includes:

    Pages: 156
    Encrypted: RC4 128-bit
    Permissions: print:yes copy:no change:no addNotes:no


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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.telecom on Thu Jan 8 12:42:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 11:53:55 +0000
    Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:

    Is does also allow reverse searches to be made by searching for the
    number.

    Which, since it allows text searching, is no real surprise. It all works
    on my Linux PC using Document Viewer.
    --
    Davey.

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  • From Bob Eager@news0009@eager.cx to uk.telecom on Thu Jan 8 13:12:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 12:42:19 +0000, Davey wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 11:53:55 +0000 Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:

    Is does also allow reverse searches to be made by searching for the
    number.

    Which, since it allows text searching, is no real surprise. It all works
    on my Linux PC using Document Viewer.

    Yes, I was initially using an old viewer with no search capability!

    qpdfview works fine though.
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom on Thu Jan 8 13:39:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 2026/1/8 12:40:15, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 05:40:57 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    On 2026/1/7 22:39:28, Bob Eager wrote:
    On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:30:58 +0000, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    On 2026/1/7 22:18:12, Bob Eager wrote:

    []

    They don't seem to be searchable, although I suppose you could OCR
    them if you really wanted to.

    Oh, so they're images (scans of the printed versions)?

    Presumably, but they aren't all that big. I tried to extract the images
    and it failed with a protection error.

    Do they look as if they're scans of a print - dirt specks, or slight
    misalignment - or electronically created?

    No, they are very clean. I don't actually think they are images at all. I think the extraction utility (for images) just said that becaise the file
    is clearly protected.

    If it is an image extraction utility, then presumably it won't work if
    they're not images, just protected in some way. Which them being small
    would support; scans/images of a phone directory I _would_ expect to be
    quite large.


    What did you use to try to extract?

    pdfimages from poppler-utils (not on Windows, nor online).

    The file is encrypted, presumable to stop manipulation. The metadata includes:

    Pages: 156
    Encrypted: RC4 128-bit
    Permissions: print:yes copy:no change:no addNotes:no


    Presumably they're already wise to an attempt to "print" it to (another)
    PDF, and have stopped that (or found a way to pass on the permission block).
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Imagine a world with no hypothetical situations...
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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.telecom on Thu Jan 8 14:29:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom

    On 8 Jan 2026 13:12:03 GMT
    Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:

    On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 12:42:19 +0000, Davey wrote:

    On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 11:53:55 +0000 Roger Mills
    <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:

    Is does also allow reverse searches to be made by searching for the
    number.

    Which, since it allows text searching, is no real surprise. It all
    works on my Linux PC using Document Viewer.

    Yes, I was initially using an old viewer with no search capability!

    qpdfview works fine though.

    I have now found the two pubs. I must have fat-fingered when I looked
    before. But the solicitor company is still listed with its 20-year old
    name.

    --
    Davey.

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