• BBC radio transmitter list ?

    From Rink@rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl to uk.tech.broadcast on Tue Jan 6 14:55:14 2026
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    Reading the message from 22 december (see under),
    I tried to find a radio transmitter list from BBC World Service on internet.

    Not succeeded!
    I only find listening online.

    The best I find via BBC Radio Scotland (!) is the BBC Reception site.
    I did not find this Reception site on BBC.com ......

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/

    But here also: no transmitter list and nothing about short wave.

    For UK transmitters I found: <https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/help-guides/fmmwlw-radio/fm-and-am-radio-frequencies>

    Typing BBC World Service in search, gives pages to DAB, Satellite,
    Virgin Cable, Sky Channel, Freesat, Freeview and Freely.

    But no LW/MW/SW/FM frequencies.

    I have no "reception problems", I just want to know the frequency!

    Does BBC only wants online listeners?

    Rink




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    Op 22-12-2025 om 10:19 schreef JMB99:
    On 22/12/2025 02:33, Marco Moock wrote:
    This is just wrong. As the government-operated services have (or had)
    efficient sending antennas and high power, they are audible very well
    with some meters of wire.


    I am not up to date with Short Wave coverage but most SW broadcasters
    had high power transmitters around the world as well as local relays on several bands (HF, MW and VHF) but I suspect many of these might have closed.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/specials/1318_africa_radio_aw/bbc_relay_partners.pdf





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  • From John Williamson@johnwilliamson@btinternet.com to uk.tech.broadcast on Tue Jan 6 14:16:18 2026
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    On 06/01/2026 13:55, Rink wrote:

    Does BBC only wants online listeners?

    Yes.

    Tciao for Now!

    John.
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  • From Rink@rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl to uk.tech.broadcast on Tue Jan 6 15:32:22 2026
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    Op 6-1-2026 om 14:55 schreef Rink:
    Reading the message from 22 december (see under),
    I tried to find a radio transmitter list from BBC World Service on
    internet.

    Not succeeded!
    I only find listening online.

    The best I find via BBC Radio Scotland (!) is the BBC Reception site.
    I did not find this Reception site on BBC.com ......

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/

    But here also: no transmitter list and nothing about short wave.

    For UK transmitters I found: <https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/help-guides/fmmwlw-radio/fm-and-am-radio-frequencies>


    Typing BBC World Service in search, gives pages to DAB, Satellite,
    Virgin Cable, Sky Channel, Freesat, Freeview and Freely.

    But no LW/MW/SW/FM frequencies.

    I have no "reception problems", I just want to know the frequency!

    Does BBC only wants online listeners?

    Rink





    Well, not from BBC, I found this very interesting site:

    http://www.frequencyfinder.org.uk/

    Rink
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  • From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to uk.tech.broadcast on Tue Jan 6 16:00:10 2026
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    On 06.01.2026 14:55 Uhr Rink wrote:

    Reading the message from 22 december (see under),
    I tried to find a radio transmitter list from BBC World Service on
    internet.

    There is https://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/ for sites located in the UK,
    but the SW service of the BBC often rents airtime on other stations.

    See https://www.mwlist.org/mwlist_quick_and_easy.php for MW/LW around
    the world and https://www.short-wave.info/ for SW.
    --
    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to 1767707714muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

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  • From Woody@harrogate3@ntlworld.com to uk.tech.broadcast on Tue Jan 6 15:20:14 2026
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    You also have to remember that the BBC WS is supported by HMG Foreign
    Office and being what they are I would suspect their preference is not
    to tell anyone "for security reasons."
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.tech.broadcast on Tue Jan 6 15:37:29 2026
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    It might be worth trying to search on BBC.COM rather than .CO.UK?


    As in

    https://www.bbc.com/worldservice/schedules/frequencies/index.shtml




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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.tech.broadcast on Tue Jan 6 15:38:14 2026
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    On 06/01/2026 15:37, JMB99 wrote:
    It might be worth trying to search on BBC.COM rather than .CO.UK?


    As in

    https://www.bbc.com/worldservice/schedules/frequencies/index.shtml







    Sorry that is an old page.




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  • From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to uk.tech.broadcast on Tue Jan 6 16:44:55 2026
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    On 06.01.2026 15:20 Uhr Woody wrote:

    You also have to remember that the BBC WS is supported by HMG Foreign
    Office and being what they are I would suspect their preference is
    not to tell anyone "for security reasons."

    The information about the location and schedule of the transmitter
    sites is public in most cases. You can't hide large SW antennas.
    --
    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to 1767709214muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

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  • From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.tech.broadcast on Tue Jan 6 17:03:58 2026
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    On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 15:20:14 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
    wrote:

    You also have to remember that the BBC WS is supported by HMG Foreign
    Office and being what they are I would suspect their preference is not
    to tell anyone "for security reasons."

    Does this still apply? I thought responsibility passed to the BBC.
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  • From MikeS@MikeS@fred.com to uk.tech.broadcast on Tue Jan 6 17:34:12 2026
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    On 06/01/2026 13:55, Rink wrote:
    Reading the message from 22 december (see under),
    I tried to find a radio transmitter list from BBC World Service on
    internet.

    Not succeeded!
    I only find listening online.

    The best I find via BBC Radio Scotland (!) is the BBC Reception site.
    I did not find this Reception site on BBC.com ......

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/

    But here also: no transmitter list and nothing about short wave.

    For UK transmitters I found: <https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/help-guides/fmmwlw-radio/fm-and-am-radio-frequencies>

    Typing BBC World Service in search, gives pages to DAB, Satellite,
    Virgin Cable, Sky Channel, Freesat, Freeview and Freely.

    But no LW/MW/SW/FM frequencies.

    I have no "reception problems", I just want to know the frequency!

    Does BBC only wants online listeners?

    Rink




    -------------------------------------------------------

    Op 22-12-2025 om 10:19 schreef JMB99:
    On 22/12/2025 02:33, Marco Moock wrote:
    This is just wrong. As the government-operated services have (or had)
    efficient sending antennas and high power, they are audible very well
    with some meters of wire.


    I am not up to date with Short Wave coverage but most SW broadcasters
    had high power transmitters around the world as well as local relays on several bands (HF, MW and VHF) but I suspect many of these might have closed.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/specials/1318_africa_radio_aw/bbc_relay_partners.pdf




    Not sure why you have a problem as there are plenty of online sites with up-to-date SW transmission listings. Try this one:
    https://www.short-wave.info/

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.tech.broadcast on Tue Jan 6 19:52:55 2026
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    On 2026/1/6 15:44:55, Marco Moock wrote:
    On 06.01.2026 15:20 Uhr Woody wrote:

    You also have to remember that the BBC WS is supported by HMG Foreign >> Office and being what they are I would suspect their preference is
    not to tell anyone "for security reasons."

    The information about the location and schedule of the transmitter
    sites is public in most cases. You can't hide large SW antennas.

    But surely the times and frequencies have to be accessible somewhere,
    for the listeners!
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.tech.broadcast on Tue Jan 6 20:06:14 2026
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    On 2026/1/6 17:34:12, MikeS wrote:
    On 06/01/2026 13:55, Rink wrote:
    Reading the message from 22 december (see under),
    I tried to find a radio transmitter list from BBC World Service on
    internet.

    []

    Not sure why you have a problem as there are plenty of online sites with up-to-date SW transmission listings. Try this one: https://www.short-wave.info/

    The question being posed is not what are the frequencies/times, but why
    it is so difficult to find such details _from the BBC_.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Everybody's throwing dinner parties, cooking this, baking that... Food
    has eaten television here. - Sam Neill (RT 2014/10/11-17)
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.tech.broadcast on Tue Jan 6 23:58:28 2026
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    On 06/01/2026 19:52, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    But surely the times and frequencies have to be accessible somewhere,
    for the listeners!


    But much of their target audience in many countries will not have access
    to British / Western etc newspapers so the schedules will be regularly broadcast.







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  • From MikeS@MikeS@fred.com to uk.tech.broadcast on Wed Jan 7 21:25:46 2026
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    On 06/01/2026 20:06, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/1/6 17:34:12, MikeS wrote:
    On 06/01/2026 13:55, Rink wrote:
    Reading the message from 22 december (see under),
    I tried to find a radio transmitter list from BBC World Service on
    internet.

    []

    Not sure why you have a problem as there are plenty of online sites with
    up-to-date SW transmission listings. Try this one:
    https://www.short-wave.info/

    The question being posed is not what are the frequencies/times, but why
    it is so difficult to find such details _from the BBC_.

    The frequencies etc for BBC national radio are readily available from
    the BBC and easily found: https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/help-guides/fmmwlw-radio/fm-and-am-radio-frequencies
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/help-guides/dab-radio/dab-tuning-information

    I assumed that those must be obvious to the OP (if not yourself) and
    they were therefore seeking shortwave frequencies which have not been publicised by the BBC in the UK for years. Their use is minimal outside
    the relatively small target audiences which probably have no internet
    (or they would not bother with shortwave) and are best served with local publicity.
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  • From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.tech.broadcast on Thu Jan 8 17:10:20 2026
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    On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 21:25:46 +0000, MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote:

    On 06/01/2026 20:06, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/1/6 17:34:12, MikeS wrote:
    On 06/01/2026 13:55, Rink wrote:
    Reading the message from 22 december (see under),
    I tried to find a radio transmitter list from BBC World Service on
    internet.

    []

    Not sure why you have a problem as there are plenty of online sites with >>> up-to-date SW transmission listings. Try this one:
    https://www.short-wave.info/

    The question being posed is not what are the frequencies/times, but why
    it is so difficult to find such details _from the BBC_.

    The frequencies etc for BBC national radio are readily available from
    the BBC and easily found: >https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/help-guides/fmmwlw-radio/fm-and-am-radio-frequencies
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/help-guides/dab-radio/dab-tuning-information

    I assumed that those must be obvious to the OP (if not yourself) and
    they were therefore seeking shortwave frequencies which have not been >publicised by the BBC in the UK for years. Their use is minimal outside
    the relatively small target audiences which probably have no internet
    (or they would not bother with shortwave) and are best served with local >publicity.

    Would an FOI request be competent? I know the BBC is a public body
    with some exemptions.
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  • From Rink@rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl to uk.tech.broadcast on Thu Jan 8 19:33:49 2026
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    Op 7-1-2026 om 22:25 schreef MikeS:
    On 06/01/2026 20:06, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/1/6 17:34:12, MikeS wrote:
    On 06/01/2026 13:55, Rink wrote:
    Reading the message from 22 december (see under),
    I tried to find a radio transmitter list from BBC World Service on
    internet.

    []

    Not sure why you have a problem as there are plenty of online sites with >>> up-to-date SW transmission listings. Try this one:
    https://www.short-wave.info/

    The question being posed is not what are the frequencies/times, but why
    it is so difficult to find such details _from the BBC_.

    The frequencies etc for BBC national radio are readily available from
    the BBC and easily found: https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/help-guides/fmmwlw-radio/fm-and-am-radio-frequencies


    This one is not easily found.
    I found it via BBC Radio Scotland, as you can read in my first message.
    A link "frequencies" or "reception" should be on the homepage of BBC.com

    And I did not ask for BBC National Radio, I asked for BBC World Service.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/help-guides/dab-radio/dab-tuning-information

    I am not interested in DAB because I cannot receive UK DAB in The
    Netherlands.



    I assumed that those must be obvious to the OP (if not yourself) and
    they were therefore seeking shortwave frequencies which have not been publicised by the BBC in the UK for years. Their use is minimal outside
    the relatively small target audiences which probably have no internet
    (or they would not bother with shortwave) and are best served with local publicity.


    I asked for BBC World Service.
    Especially for SW.
    Those transmitters are not on the webpages you suggested.
    And I could not find it on BBC sites.

    Lots of people cannot listen to BBC via internet, for example all over
    Russia and probably also China. A significant part of Africa does not
    have internet, I thought about 20%.
    BBC World Service is also for them.

    Why should BBC broadcast via short wave if they don't tell on which frequencies and on which times?

    Rink
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.tech.broadcast on Thu Jan 8 19:21:41 2026
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    On 2026/1/8 18:33:49, Rink wrote:

    []

    Lots of people cannot listen to BBC via internet, for example all over

    Or don't wish to as they might be (probably are) being monitored.

    Russia and probably also China. A significant part of Africa does not
    have internet, I thought about 20%.
    BBC World Service is also for them.

    Why should BBC broadcast via short wave if they don't tell on which frequencies and on which times?

    I guess they would say they do tell - _in_ the broadcasts. As in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssw7cn2TbF0, though that's from another age.

    Rink

    John
    --
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    There were so many skeletons in his closets you couldn't hang a cloak
    right.
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.tech.broadcast on Fri Jan 9 11:03:00 2026
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    Funny how the BBC World Service probably had many more listeners in the
    past before there was the Internet.

    People would tune around looking for the BBC service then note down the frequency and details of the schedules that would be given out periodically.

    Several times a year the schedules would change with changes being
    announced and again people would make a note of them.

    But many (most?) would be listening through local relays.




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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.tech.broadcast on Fri Jan 9 13:43:04 2026
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    On 2026/1/9 11:3:0, JMB99 wrote:
    Funny how the BBC World Service probably had many more listeners in the
    past before there was the Internet.

    As with most, local and (inter)national, stations.

    People would tune around looking for the BBC service then note down the frequency and details of the schedules that would be given out periodically.

    Several times a year the schedules would change with changes being
    announced and again people would make a note of them.

    But many (most?) would be listening through local relays.

    Medium wave and FM, maybe, but I thought the _point_ (and, to some
    extent, fun) of SW was its range? Unless by "local" you mean in their hemisphere or similar; I don't mean they were all listening to London
    (or England - I don't think _any_ transmitters were in London itself
    except in the very early days), but not what I'd call local - often
    BBCWS relays on remote British posessions, like Ascencion island, etc.




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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.tech.broadcast on Sat Jan 10 13:11:40 2026
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    On 09/01/2026 13:43, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    Medium wave and FM, maybe, but I thought the_point_ (and, to some
    extent, fun) of SW was its range? Unless by "local" you mean in their hemisphere or similar; I don't mean they were all listening to London
    (or England - I don't think_any_ transmitters were in London itself
    except in the very early days), but not what I'd call local - often
    BBCWS relays on remote British posessions, like Ascencion island, etc.


    I was thinking of the many VHF FM and probably Medium Wave and even DAB transmitters that relayed the World Service for parts of the day.

    I used to listen on Short Wave many years ago just as I once used a dip
    pen and bottle of ink once but things progress. There was some novelty
    to listening to a distant station but you can do it so much easier now.






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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.tech.broadcast on Sat Jan 10 14:21:41 2026
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    On 2026/1/10 13:11:40, JMB99 wrote:
    On 09/01/2026 13:43, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    Medium wave and FM, maybe, but I thought the_point_ (and, to some
    extent, fun) of SW was its range? Unless by "local" you mean in their
    hemisphere or similar; I don't mean they were all listening to London
    (or England - I don't think_any_ transmitters were in London itself
    except in the very early days), but not what I'd call local - often
    BBCWS relays on remote British posessions, like Ascencion island, etc.


    I was thinking of the many VHF FM and probably Medium Wave and even DAB transmitters that relayed the World Service for parts of the day.

    I used to listen on Short Wave many years ago just as I once used a dip
    pen and bottle of ink once but things progress. There was some novelty
    to listening to a distant station but you can do it so much easier now.


    But the local relays can so easily be turned off by oppressive regimes,
    whereas the distant SW broadcasters can't. I'd be somewhat surprised if,
    for example, you can get BBCWS on FM/MW/DAB in most of Russia (after
    all, we can't get Russia Today TV on FreeView here), Iran, north Korea, possibly China ... so it's not just technostalgia (have I just invented
    that word?), but practical reasons. (Made a lot harder because of the HF
    noise these days, of course.)





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  • From Ulrich Onken@usenet-1123.uonken@spamgourmet.com to uk.tech.broadcast on Sat Jan 10 16:49:36 2026
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    On 10/01/2026 15:21, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    But the local relays can so easily be turned off by oppressive regimes, whereas the distant SW broadcasters can't. I'd be somewhat surprised if,
    for example, you can get BBCWS on FM/MW/DAB in most of Russia (after
    all, we can't get Russia Today TV on FreeView here), Iran, north Korea, possibly China ... so it's not just technostalgia (have I just invented
    that word?), but practical reasons. (Made a lot harder because of the HF noise these days, of course.)

    Iran has cut all internet access this week. That's an easy measure for authoritarian regimes to mitigate unwanted protest. If I lived in Iran,
    I would be more than happy to have access to news and information by
    short wave radio. It's too bad that most international broadcasters have
    given up short wave transmissions - notably with the exception of China.

    When I lived in the US Midwest three decades ago, I listened a lot to
    BBC WS, both on a local public radio station (FM) and on short wave. The relevant short wave transmitters were not located in the UK, but on the Caribbean island of Antigua and on Ascension Island. The Antigua
    transmitters have been dismantled after 2005.

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