A terrific performance by Rahul and Gill yesterday. They have given
India a real chance of avoiding a defeat that had seemed inevitable at lunch. About 15 minutes before close of play, Sky showed that the Winviz forecast was then running at 63% England, 36% a draw and 1% India,
though goodness knows where that 1% came from - there isn't enough time
left in the game for India to get a lead of any size and then bowl
England out.
The commentators have kept on talking about increasingly uneven bounce
and more turn but, though a few balls bounced unevenly, for most of the
time the batsmen looked comfortable. England badly missed Stokes' bowling.
England will have to hope they can take at least one wicket early on
before the batsmen have had a chance to play themselves in again. There
will also be the second new ball available after an hour or so's play.
It might help that when the overnight pair are separated, the next few batsmen will all be left-handers, and Archer is much more successful
against those.
There hasn't been a single use of the ball hoops so far in this match,
at least that I could see. I wonder if they've managed to find a batch
of balls somewhere that keep their hardness and shape much better than
those used previously. Otherwise you'd think that, even if the players
have been told not to harass the umpires for a ball change, the umpires would have changed the ball a time or two on their own initiative.
On 7/27/2025 12:16 AM, John Hall wrote:
A terrific performance by Rahul and Gill yesterday. They have given
India a real chance of avoiding a defeat that had seemed inevitable at
lunch. About 15 minutes before close of play, Sky showed that the
Winviz forecast was then running at 63% England, 36% a draw and 1%
India, though goodness knows where that 1% came from - there isn't
enough time left in the game for India to get a lead of any size and
then bowl England out.
If the odds are ZERO, nobody will bet money and bookmarkers WON'T be
able to PROFIT.
If they gives odds of 1%, at least some lottery loving suckers will bet money on India to win and bookies will profit.
The commentators have kept on talking about increasingly uneven bounce
and more turn but, though a few balls bounced unevenly, for most of
the time the batsmen looked comfortable. England badly missed Stokes'
bowling.
England will have to hope they can take at least one wicket early on
before the batsmen have had a chance to play themselves in again.
There will also be the second new ball available after an hour or so's
play. It might help that when the overnight pair are separated, the
next few batsmen will all be left-handers, and Archer is much more
successful against those.
There hasn't been a single use of the ball hoops so far in this match,
at least that I could see. I wonder if they've managed to find a batch
of balls somewhere that keep their hardness and shape much better than
those used previously. Otherwise you'd think that, even if the players
have been told not to harass the umpires for a ball change, the
umpires would have changed the ball a time or two on their own
initiative.
In message <rODO8DBfJdhoFwn0@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> writes
A terrific performance by Rahul and Gill yesterday. They have given
India a real chance of avoiding a defeat that had seemed inevitable at
lunch. About 15 minutes before close of play, Sky showed that the
Winviz forecast was then running at 63% England, 36% a draw and 1%
India, though goodness knows where that 1% came from - there isn't
enough time left in the game for India to get a lead of any size and
then bowl England out.
The commentators have kept on talking about increasingly uneven bounce
and more turn but, though a few balls bounced unevenly, for most of
the time the batsmen looked comfortable. England badly missed Stokes'
bowling.
England will have to hope they can take at least one wicket early on
before the batsmen have had a chance to play themselves in again.
There will also be the second new ball available after an hour or so's
play. It might help that when the overnight pair are separated, the
next few batsmen will all be left-handers, and Archer is much more
successful against those.
There hasn't been a single use of the ball hoops so far in this match,
at least that I could see. I wonder if they've managed to find a batch
of balls somewhere that keep their hardness and shape much better than
those used previously. Otherwise you'd think that, even if the players
have been told not to harass the umpires for a ball change, the
umpires would have changed the ball a time or two on their own
initiative.
One other thought. I think every match in this series has gone well into
the fifth day. Hopefully this will silence those who have been calling
for four-day Tests. Four day matches may be sensible for fixtures such
as England v Zimbabwe, but not when two "major" Test sides are playing
each other.
England have announced their team, the only change being that Dawkins
comes in for the injured Bashir. With Smith at 7, Dawkins at 8, Woakes
at 9 and Carse at 10, it must be a long time since England have had so strong a lower order.
India have a number of injury worries, and we know that the unfortunate Reddy is out of the series.
On 7/27/2025 12:16 AM, John Hall wrote:
A terrific performance by Rahul and Gill yesterday. They have given
India a real chance of avoiding a defeat that had seemed inevitable at
lunch. About 15 minutes before close of play, Sky showed that the
Winviz forecast was then running at 63% England, 36% a draw and 1%
India, though goodness knows where that 1% came from - there isn't
enough time left in the game for India to get a lead of any size and
then bowl England out.
If the odds are ZERO, nobody will bet money and bookmarkers WON'T be
able to PROFIT.
If they gives odds of 1%, at least some lottery loving suckers will bet money on India to win and bookies will profit.
On 28/07/2025 10:55, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
On 7/27/2025 12:16 AM, John Hall wrote:
A terrific performance by Rahul and Gill yesterday. They have given
India a real chance of avoiding a defeat that had seemed inevitable
at lunch. About 15 minutes before close of play, Sky showed that the
Winviz forecast was then running at 63% England, 36% a draw and 1%
India, though goodness knows where that 1% came from - there isn't
enough time left in the game for India to get a lead of any size and
then bowl England out.
If the odds are ZERO, nobody will bet money and bookmarkers WON'T be
able to PROFIT.
If they gives odds of 1%, at least some lottery loving suckers will
bet money on India to win and bookies will profit.
Are you suggesting that WinViz/CricViz is being funded by bookmakers?
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