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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15043271/minneapolis-shooter- robin-westman-transgender-manifesto-school.html
Apparently this fellow - and all the news outlets are bending over
backwards to call him "her" - regretted pretending to be a girl and his bitterness over being railroaded into transitioning by all the trendy lefties, may have played a part in leading him to kill two young
children in a Catholic school in America.
Not all men who pretend to be women end up committing massacres, but it doesn't pay to mess around with what God has given you.
God bless,
Kendall K. Down
There are multiple mass shootings each year in the US, and this
particular one was done by a transsexual. Until now, none of them had
been. So, it clearly did pay, until now, "to mess around with what God
has given you"? Or, it's actually irrelevant.
On 28/08/2025 20:42, GB wrote:
There are multiple mass shootings each year in the US, and this
particular one was done by a transsexual. Until now, none of them had
been. So, it clearly did pay, until now, "to mess around with what God
has given you"? Or, it's actually irrelevant.
The point is that this unfortunate fellow (or evil fellow, take your
pick) regretted his decision to pretend to be a girl and claimed that he
had been brainwashed into it.
At one point he seems to say that he brainwashed himself and to a
certain extent that is probably true; he would have read and watched all
the propaganda which says that men can become women and rejected the
sane voices saying that is impossible. However where did all this
propaganda come from? It wasn't AI generated, it was people like
yourself who ignore basic genetics and insist that the impossible is possible.
On 28/08/2025 20:42, GB wrote:
There may be one or two individuals who are blithely happy after getting their bits chopped off (though we'll never know whether that is a front
or not), but you give no thought to the others who find themselves
condemned to lives of ill-health, misery, loneliness as they find by
bitter experience that men are men, women are women, and the one cannot become the other.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15043271/minneapolis-shooter- robin-westman-transgender-manifesto-school.html
Apparently this fellow - and all the news outlets are bending over
backwards to call him "her" - regretted pretending to be a girl and his bitterness over being railroaded into transitioning by all the trendy lefties, may have played a part in leading him to kill two young
children in a Catholic school in America.
Not all men who pretend to be women end up committing massacres, but it doesn't pay to mess around with what God has given you.
On 28/08/2025 18:52, Kendall K. Down wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15043271/minneapolis-shooter-
robin-westman-transgender-manifesto-school.html
There are multiple mass shootings each year in the US, and this
particular one was done by a transsexual. Until now, none of them had
been.
On 29/08/2025 03:05, Kendall K. Down wrote:
On 28/08/2025 20:42, GB wrote:
There may be one or two individuals who are blithely happy after
getting their bits chopped off (though we'll never know whether that
is a front or not), but you give no thought to the others who find
themselves condemned to lives of ill-health, misery, loneliness as
they find by bitter experience that men are men, women are women, and
the one cannot become the other.
People who have undergone gender re-assignment surgery are, on the
whole, happy with their choice, and I would say it's more than one or
two.-a I posted recently about Stephanie Hirst, who repeatedly had
suicidal thoughts until she changed her sex, and is now much happier
having transitioned.
I don't know the statistics but I bet way more than 50% are happy with
that choice.-a Do you give any thoughts to these individuals, or are you blindsided that much against transexuals you don't really care.
On 2025-08-28 20:42, GB wrote:
On 28/08/2025 18:52, Kendall K. Down wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15043271/minneapolis-shooter-
robin-westman-transgender-manifesto-school.html
There are multiple mass shootings each year in the US, and this
particular one was done by a transsexual. Until now, none of them had
been.
The Minneapolis shooting was not the first carried out by someone
identifying as transgender. There are several examples here:
https://www.newsweek.com/mass-shootings-transgender-perpetrators-1790854
On 30/08/2025 10:47, John wrote:
On 29/08/2025 03:05, Kendall K. Down wrote:
On 28/08/2025 20:42, GB wrote:
There may be one or two individuals who are blithely happy after
getting their bits chopped off (though we'll never know whether that
is a front or not), but you give no thought to the others who find
themselves condemned to lives of ill-health, misery, loneliness as
they find by bitter experience that men are men, women are women, and
the one cannot become the other.
People who have undergone gender re-assignment surgery are, on the
whole, happy with their choice, and I would say it's more than one or
two.-a I posted recently about Stephanie Hirst, who repeatedly had
suicidal thoughts until she changed her sex, and is now much happier
having transitioned.
I don't know the statistics but I bet way more than 50% are happy with
that choice.-a Do you give any thoughts to these individuals, or are
you blindsided that much against transexuals you don't really care.
Ken is against transitioning for religious reasons. That's a point of
view I respect, and I expect most of us do.
However, instead of just sticking to that, he tries to justify his views
on rational grounds, and that's where he causes controversy.
Westman does seem to have regretted transgendering, but that seems to be irrelevant to his/her desire to kill children.
There's no evidence that Westman underwent gender reassignment surgery.And there is no evidence that he did not have either surgery or
It would be better just to stick to the facts, please.
For example: "The trans movement is pushing more and more extremism each day," said Oli London, a media personality who has become critical ofThat, unfortunately, is not limited to transgender. Incels, Muslim
the transgender movement since deciding to detransition. "They recruit people, indoctrinate them and pump them full of propaganda until they
become filled with hate and rage."
The founder of the religion Ken belongs to states that you should love
your enemy and bless those who persecute you.
So even if he disagrees with transgenderism on religious grounds (whichSince when has stating facts been offensive? You may not like the facts,
I also respect) he shouldn't be offensive to those who are transgender.
People who have undergone gender re-assignment surgery are, on the
whole, happy with their choice, and I would say it's more than one or
two.-a I posted recently about Stephanie Hirst, who repeatedly had
suicidal thoughts until she changed her sex, and is now much happier
having transitioned.
I don't know the statistics but I bet way more than 50% are happy withAn individual's happiness is not a good guide to morality. A burglar who
that choice.-a Do you give any thoughts to these individuals, or are you blindsided that much against transexuals you don't really care.
Ken is against transitioning for religious reasons. That's a point of
view I respect, and I expect most of us do.
However, instead of just sticking to that, he tries to justify his viewsI have no objection to controversy on rational grounds. I strongly
on rational grounds, and that's where he causes controversy.
The Minneapolis shooting was not the first carried out by someoneThank you, Graham.
identifying as transgender. There are several examples here: https://www.newsweek.com/mass-shootings-transgender-perpetrators-1790854
It looks like he (1) came from a Christian background, which was also
the case with the man who murdered 3 young children in Southport.
Be a Christian at your peril!!
There's a history of social anxiety, he had harboured thoughts of a mass shooting for many years, making reference to other mass killings, and heI hadn't come across the cancer bit before.
had cancer and wanted to go out with a bang. (pun unintended)
On 29/08/2025 12:34, GB wrote:
Westman does seem to have regretted transgendering, but that seems to
be irrelevant to his/her desire to kill children.
We do not know, as the police have not released all the documents in the case yet. It would not surprise me, however, if it all contributed to
his misanthropic views.
There's no evidence that Westman underwent gender reassignmentAnd there is no evidence that he did not have either surgery or
surgery. It would be better just to stick to the facts, please.
hormones. The one is as regrettable as the other, in my opinion.
God bless,
Kendall K. Down
On 30/08/2025 10:47, John wrote:
People who have undergone gender re-assignment surgery are, on the
whole, happy with their choice, and I would say it's more than one or
two.-a I posted recently about Stephanie Hirst, who repeatedly had
suicidal thoughts until she changed her sex, and is now much happier
having transitioned.
It would be interesting to know this chap's views twenty years down the
line rather than so soon after the surgery.
I don't know the statistics but I bet way more than 50% are happy with
that choice.-a Do you give any thoughts to these individuals, or are
you blindsided that much against transexuals you don't really care.
An individual's happiness is not a good guide to morality. A burglar who gets away without being detected is, no doubt, happy about that. Does
that make burglary good? A paedophile who has just had sex with the
child of his choice is, I am sure, rather pleased with himself. Does
that make his actions moral?
So no, I don't care whether these people are happy or not. The question
of right or wrong has nothing to do with happiness.
God bless,
Kendall K. Down
On 31/08/2025 15:03, John wrote:
The founder of the religion Ken belongs to states that you should love
your enemy and bless those who persecute you.
A curious passage to quote, given that I don't regard these people as enemies nor am I being persecuted by them. There may be others whose experience is different, of course.
So even if he disagrees with transgenderism on religious groundsSince when has stating facts been offensive? You may not like the facts,
(which I also respect) he shouldn't be offensive to those who are
transgender.
for they expose the lunacy of your position, but facts are not
offensive. Facts exist.
On 30/08/2025 11:42, John wrote:
It looks like he (1) came from a Christian background, which was also
the case with the man who murdered 3 young children in Southport.
Indeed, though that would imply that other mass killers came from a non- Christian background.
Be a Christian at your peril!!
Or be a non-Christian and experience even greater peril!!
There's a history of social anxiety, he had harboured thoughts of a
mass shooting for many years, making reference to other mass killings,
and he had cancer and wanted to go out with a bang. (pun unintended)
I hadn't come across the cancer bit before.
... As [Graham's] link pointed out, of all the mass
murders taking place in America since 2018, just 4 were transgender,
which means 99% were not...
It's also possible that he was simply a very unhappy, very mixed-up
person, who went in all sorts of directions and failed to find happiness
in any of them. That wouldn't surprise any of us, I expect.
You've chosen examples there of people sinning against others. Can you
come up with a convincing example where others are not harmed?
If you don't regard trans people as your enemy, why are you so strongly against them?
You've got one verse in the bible (and even that is dodgy) which
possibly supports your stance religiously, yet in the current theft and
tax thread you are tacitly in support of theft in certain circumstances. Given that stealing is explicitly forbidden, I was actually surprised.
But they're not facts Ken, you have your opinion, I have mine, but atThe Y-chromosome is a fact. It is a scientific fact. Unfortunately it
the end of the day they are just our opinions.
That was kinda my point.-a As Ghraham's link pointed out, of all the mass murders taking place in America since 2018, just 4 were transgender,
which means 99% were not, yet you gleefully tried to conclude that the latest shootings took place because he was unhappy with his transgenderism.
Thanks.I hadn't come across the cancer bit before.
It was in the link you posted.
The relevant statistic here is the number of murders per capita by a particular class of offender. It's more difficult to compile
representative statistics from a small number of events but figures
in the link (from different sources) suggest that transgender mass
shootings run at about double the per capita rate of the general
population.