• Re: Government management

    From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Sun Aug 24 08:32:09 2025
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    On 24/08/2025 02:38, Madhu wrote:

    A common "wisdom" often repeated on "leftist usenet" is that those who
    went to ameirca on grounds of religious freedom were seeking the freedom
    to impose their own stictures, something they could not do in the old
    world.

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Roger-Williams-American-religious-leader

    You may be interested in the above, if you have not come across Roger
    Williams before. It illustrates perfectly my previous reply.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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  • From John@megane.06@gmail.com to uk.religion.christian on Sun Aug 24 09:38:19 2025
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    On 23/08/2025 20:54, Kendall K. Down wrote:


    Back in the 1400s there was only one church in Britain, the Catholic
    church. In the 1530s King Henry VIII split away from the Catholic church
    (it is a very discreditable story, but basically he wanted to divorce
    his wife and the Catholic church would not allow it). He established the Church of England, which had the same doctrines as the Catholic church except instead of the pope, the king was the head of the church.

    1. If the CofE was set up purely so the King could divorce, doesn't
    that make the CofE a false church? I would imagine you are pretestant,
    but if it's origins are dodgy, wouldn't it be best to turn back to the
    Mother church.

    2. Were there really no other churches other than the Catholic church?
    I would imagine there would be little pockets of believers following
    Jesus in their way.


    America was founded in the 1600s by people who experienced persecution
    from the Church of England.

    I think the Red Indians might have something to say about that!

    As a pastor, I have never been asked to report to the police or been interviewed by them. I am free to preach on any subject whatsoever and
    do not seek sanction for what I say from anyone, whether inside or
    outside the church. I do not keep any record of who attends my churches
    and church membership lists[2] are purely for church use and are never submitted to the government or the police. I have personally published literature (duplicated or photocopied) and distributed it to the public without any censorship or control.

    I didn't know you were still a pastor.



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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Sun Aug 24 19:24:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.religion.christian

    On 24/08/2025 09:38, John wrote:

    1.-a If the CofE was set up purely so the King could divorce, doesn't
    that make the CofE a false church?-a I would imagine you are pretestant,
    but if it's origins are dodgy, wouldn't it be best to turn back to the Mother church.

    1. The CofE has changed a good deal since the days of Henry VIII.

    2. But of course I am not CofE so your strictures do not apply.
    2.-a Were there really no other churches other than the Catholic church?
    I would imagine there would be little pockets of believers following
    Jesus in their way.

    Yes, even in the days of Henry VIII you had Martin Luther, John Calvin
    and others. Cranmer and others were keen to make the English church more
    like them, but Henry perhaps felt that he dared not tempt God too much!

    America was founded in the 1600s by people who experienced persecution
    from the Church of England.

    I think the Red Indians might have something to say about that!

    I am not aware that the Red Indians patented the name "America".

    I didn't know you were still a pastor.
    Retired.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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