No, not the one based on Calvin's theology, but the Reform party has
found God!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uzWqQwND_8
The reform party have launched a Christian fellowship group but is this
just the beginning of Christian Nationalism here, akin to that which is sweeping American politics at the moment?-a I was surprised to see Sarah Pochin fronting the video, as I didn't realise she was a Christian. She
must really hate the thought of the over exposure of a brown male not
just dominating TV and it's adverts, but pretty much everything taking
place in December.
The Church of England has sounded warning bells over Christian
Nationalism, where the rhetoric is White Jesus, White Supremacy, with
their brand of Christianity as a major political force.
https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2025/28-november/news/uk/take- care-that-quiet-revival-is-not-stolen-by-a-form-of-christian- nationalism-churches-told
Tommy Robinson has also found God, allegedly.-a Again, is this a far
right god that Tommy is using to further the cause of a white Britain or
has he genuinely seen the light and will now embrace the Muslims amd foreigners to "our" land, or will it be used to promote a "Christian" Britain which wants rid of Muslims and foreigners, and make the UK a "Christian" country totally alienated from the brown baby born outside a "hotel" who's parents travelled to a foreign land to escape persecution?
https://news.sky.com/story/the-rise-of-christian-nationalism-in- britain-13465800
Tommy Robinson has also found God, allegedly.I share your scepticism. On the other hand, something of the sort was
The charter of this group forbids me from saying that anyone who self- identifies as a Christian is not one. So I won't say it. ;-)But you can say that the words or actions or principles of someone are
On 18/12/2025 11:13, John wrote:I derive a certain wry amusement from the sight of left-wing church
Tommy Robinson has also found God, allegedly.
I welcome anything that will strengthen the church and encourage people
to attend. And provided the clergy [do] their job properly, even those who come for the wrong motives will get a different message to what their political leaders are spouting.
There is a similar account of it (by a different author) here: https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2025/12/15/frame-or-picture- what-we-saw-at-tommy-robinsons-unite-the-kingdom-carol-service
On 18/12/2025 11:13, John wrote:
No, not the one based on Calvin's theology, but the Reform party has
found God!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uzWqQwND_8
The reform party have launched a Christian fellowship group but is
this just the beginning of Christian Nationalism here, akin to that
which is sweeping American politics at the moment?-a I was surprised to
see Sarah Pochin fronting the video, as I didn't realise she was a
Christian. She must really hate the thought of the over exposure of a
brown male not just dominating TV and it's adverts, but pretty much
everything taking place in December.
The Church of England has sounded warning bells over Christian
Nationalism, where the rhetoric is White Jesus, White Supremacy, with
their brand of Christianity as a major political force.
https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2025/28-november/news/uk/take-
care-that-quiet-revival-is-not-stolen-by-a-form-of-christian-
nationalism-churches-told
Tommy Robinson has also found God, allegedly.-a Again, is this a far
right god that Tommy is using to further the cause of a white Britain
or has he genuinely seen the light and will now embrace the Muslims
amd foreigners to "our" land, or will it be used to promote a
"Christian" Britain which wants rid of Muslims and foreigners, and
make the UK a "Christian" country totally alienated from the brown
baby born outside a "hotel" who's parents travelled to a foreign land
to escape persecution?
https://news.sky.com/story/the-rise-of-christian-nationalism-in-
britain-13465800
IMO their "Brand of Christianity" isn't Christianity at all.
The charter of this group forbids me from saying that anyone who self- identifies as a Christian is not one. So I won't say it. ;-)
On 18/12/2025 11:13, John wrote:
Tommy Robinson has also found God, allegedly.I share your scepticism. On the other hand, something of the sort was probably inevitable in response to militant Islam.
I welcome anything that will strengthen the church and encourage people
to attend. And provided the clergy to their job properly, even those who come for the wrong motives will get a different message to what their political leaders are spouting.
On 2025-12-18 21:09, Kendall K. Down wrote:
On 18/12/2025 11:13, John wrote:
Tommy Robinson has also found God, allegedly.
I welcome anything that will strengthen the church and encourage people
to attend. And provided the clergy [do] their job properly, even those
who
come for the wrong motives will get a different message to what their
political leaders are spouting.
I derive a certain wry amusement from the sight of left-wing church
leaders, whose usual pronouncements are functionally indistinguishable
from a certain woolly-minded benevolent atheism, suddenly finding an
interest in traditional Christian truths once they are shown up
by someone whose politics they despise.
A poster to a usually liberal Christian FB group I follow attended
Mr Robinson's open-air carol service with, I suspect, an intention
to subsequently denounce the anti-Christ but found it to be largely
an ... open-air carol service (though with speeches).
There is a similar account of it (by a different author) here: https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2025/12/15/frame-or-picture- what-we-saw-at-tommy-robinsons-unite-the-kingdom-carol-service
On 18/12/2025 18:44, Timreason wrote:
On 18/12/2025 11:13, John wrote:
No, not the one based on Calvin's theology, but the Reform party has
found God!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uzWqQwND_8
The reform party have launched a Christian fellowship group but is
this just the beginning of Christian Nationalism here, akin to that
which is sweeping American politics at the moment?-a I was surprised
to see Sarah Pochin fronting the video, as I didn't realise she was a
Christian. She must really hate the thought of the over exposure of a
brown male not just dominating TV and it's adverts, but pretty much
everything taking place in December.
The Church of England has sounded warning bells over Christian
Nationalism, where the rhetoric is White Jesus, White Supremacy, with
their brand of Christianity as a major political force.
https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2025/28-november/news/uk/take-
care-that-quiet-revival-is-not-stolen-by-a-form-of-christian-
nationalism-churches-told
Tommy Robinson has also found God, allegedly.-a Again, is this a far
right god that Tommy is using to further the cause of a white Britain
or has he genuinely seen the light and will now embrace the Muslims
amd foreigners to "our" land, or will it be used to promote a
"Christian" Britain which wants rid of Muslims and foreigners, and
make the UK a "Christian" country totally alienated from the brown
baby born outside a "hotel" who's parents travelled to a foreign land
to escape persecution?
https://news.sky.com/story/the-rise-of-christian-nationalism-in-
britain-13465800
IMO their "Brand of Christianity" isn't Christianity at all.
The charter of this group forbids me from saying that anyone who self-
identifies as a Christian is not one. So I won't say it. ;-)
If Tommy and Sarah display fruit compatible with genuiine Christian conversion then fair play.
If it's the birth pangs of Christian Nationalism creeping into the UK
then I think it's worth people being aware.
On 19/12/2025 00:00, Graham Nye wrote:
On 2025-12-18 21:09, Kendall K. Down wrote:
On 18/12/2025 11:13, John wrote:
Tommy Robinson has also found God, allegedly.
I welcome anything that will strengthen the church and encourage people
to attend. And provided the clergy [do] their job properly, even
those who
come for the wrong motives will get a different message to what their
political leaders are spouting.
I derive a certain wry amusement from the sight of left-wing church
leaders, whose usual pronouncements are functionally indistinguishable
from a certain woolly-minded benevolent atheism, suddenly finding an
interest in traditional Christian truths once they are shown up
by someone whose politics they despise.
A poster to a usually liberal Christian FB group I follow attended
Mr Robinson's open-air carol service with, I suspect, an intention
to subsequently denounce the anti-Christ but found it to be largely
an ... open-air carol service (though with speeches).
There is a similar account of it (by a different author) here:
https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2025/12/15/frame-or-picture-
what-we-saw-at-tommy-robinsons-unite-the-kingdom-carol-service
That was good to read, and I certainly hope that Tommy's new found faith isn't rooted in Christian Nationalism.
On 19/12/2025 11:08, John wrote:
On 18/12/2025 18:44, Timreason wrote:
On 18/12/2025 11:13, John wrote:
No, not the one based on Calvin's theology, but the Reform party has
found God!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uzWqQwND_8
The reform party have launched a Christian fellowship group but is
this just the beginning of Christian Nationalism here, akin to that
which is sweeping American politics at the moment?-a I was surprised
to see Sarah Pochin fronting the video, as I didn't realise she was
a Christian. She must really hate the thought of the over exposure
of a brown male not just dominating TV and it's adverts, but pretty
much everything taking place in December.
The Church of England has sounded warning bells over Christian
Nationalism, where the rhetoric is White Jesus, White Supremacy,
with their brand of Christianity as a major political force.
https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2025/28-november/news/uk/
take- care-that-quiet-revival-is-not-stolen-by-a-form-of-christian-
nationalism-churches-told
Tommy Robinson has also found God, allegedly.-a Again, is this a far
right god that Tommy is using to further the cause of a white
Britain or has he genuinely seen the light and will now embrace the
Muslims amd foreigners to "our" land, or will it be used to promote
a "Christian" Britain which wants rid of Muslims and foreigners, and
make the UK a "Christian" country totally alienated from the brown
baby born outside a "hotel" who's parents travelled to a foreign
land to escape persecution?
https://news.sky.com/story/the-rise-of-christian-nationalism-in-
britain-13465800
IMO their "Brand of Christianity" isn't Christianity at all.
The charter of this group forbids me from saying that anyone who
self- identifies as a Christian is not one. So I won't say it. ;-)
If Tommy and Sarah display fruit compatible with genuiine Christian
conversion then fair play.
Even if that may seem apparent, acting is always a possibility. Do
leopards change their spots? Real conversion often takes time, so sudden U-turns are suspicious. I would approach it, sadly, with scepticism.
If it's the birth pangs of Christian Nationalism creeping into the UK
then I think it's worth people being aware.
..and that's precisely what I think it is. I'd love to be wrong on this
one, but I'd be genuinely surprised if I am.
By their fruits we may know them...
If Tommy and Sarah display fruit compatible with genuiine Christian conversion then fair play.I agree.
If it's the birth pangs of Christian Nationalism creeping into the UK
then I think it's worth people being aware.
Would you say militant Islam in the UK is a cause for concern? I see
lots of Reform followers say it is, but the evidence doesn't seem to be there. If anything the opposite, and it would see that every time
something bad happens the Muslims initially get the blame.-a The maiming
of football fans in Liverpool and the lone attacker on the LNER train immediately spring to mind, as both were initially blamed on Muslims.
No, not the one based on Calvin's theology, but the Reform party has
found God!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uzWqQwND_8
The reform party have launched a Christian fellowship group but is this
just the beginning of Christian Nationalism here, akin to that which is sweeping American politics at the moment?-a I was surprised to see Sarah Pochin fronting the video, as I didn't realise she was a Christian. She
must really hate the thought of the over exposure of a brown male not
just dominating TV and it's adverts, but pretty much everything taking
place in December.
The Church of England has sounded warning bells over Christian
Nationalism, where the rhetoric is White Jesus, White Supremacy, with
their brand of Christianity as a major political force.
https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2025/28-november/news/uk/take- care-that-quiet-revival-is-not-stolen-by-a-form-of-christian- nationalism-churches-told
Tommy Robinson has also found God, allegedly.-a Again, is this a far
right god that Tommy is using to further the cause of a white Britain or
has he genuinely seen the light and will now embrace the Muslims amd foreigners to "our" land, or will it be used to promote a "Christian" Britain which wants rid of Muslims and foreigners, and make the UK a "Christian" country totally alienated from the brown baby born outside a "hotel" who's parents travelled to a foreign land to escape persecution?
https://news.sky.com/story/the-rise-of-christian-nationalism-in- britain-13465800
On 19/12/2025 12:11, John wrote:
Would you say militant Islam in the UK is a cause for concern? I see
lots of Reform followers say it is, but the evidence doesn't seem to
be there. If anything the opposite, and it would see that every time
something bad happens the Muslims initially get the blame.-a The
maiming of football fans in Liverpool and the lone attacker on the
LNER train immediately spring to mind, as both were initially blamed
on Muslims.
In the first place, militant anything is a cause for concern, whether
it's Islam or Just Stop Oil or any other group that threatens the
welfare of other people.
Secondly, although the cases you mention were not Muslims - and your
point that there are plenty of non-Muslim criminals and idiots is quite
true - don't forget the Tube bombings, all the honour killings, and
those who flocked out to Syria to support Daesh.
Of course there is a militant element in Islam, as you rightly point out Daesh is one such group. However, I maintain that the vast majority of Muslims in this country are peaceful, and just want to follow their God
in the way they have been taught.
Would you say militant Islam in the UK is a cause for concern?
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