Having switched to Nova a few years ago, as per suggestions here, I see
the new owners have started pushing Ads.
I'd be happy to switch to Prime, but not if there are still Ads. There
seem to be reports of Ads in Prime, anyone here using Prime and can verify?
I've contacted support, but still await an answer.
I've evaluated a couple of other launchers; Lawnchair and Niagara, but
they are no where near as good.
YTC1 wrote:
Having switched to Nova a few years ago, as per suggestions here, I
see the new owners have started pushing Ads.
I'd be happy to switch to Prime, but not if there are still Ads. There
seem to be reports of Ads in Prime, anyone here using Prime and can
verify?
I've contacted support, but still await an answer.
I've evaluated a couple of other launchers; Lawnchair and Niagara, but
they are no where near as good.
I find Lawnchair to be good enough (and have more-or-less replecated my
Nova setup with it).
Were you using the latest version (15 Beta 2) ?
It is developing quite quickly.
On 02/02/2026 08:09, Sqirrel99 wrote:
Were you using the latest version (15 Beta 2) ?
It is developing quite quickly.
I'll give it another look, but for <-u4.00 I can avoid the hassle of
setting up from scratch.
Support have confirmed that no Ads are in prime.
YTC1 wrote:
On 02/02/2026 08:09, Sqirrel99 wrote:
Were you using the latest version (15 Beta 2) ?
It is developing quite quickly.
I'll give it another look, but for <-u4.00 I can avoid the hassle of
setting up from scratch.
Support have confirmed that no Ads are in prime.
I can confirm that too (for now at least).
I bought prime in 2015 for -u0.10 !
YTC1 wrote:
Having switched to Nova a few years ago, as per suggestions here, I
see the new owners have started pushing Ads.
I'd be happy to switch to Prime, but not if there are still Ads. There
seem to be reports of Ads in Prime, anyone here using Prime and can
verify?
I've contacted support, but still await an answer.
I've evaluated a couple of other launchers; Lawnchair and Niagara, but
they are no where near as good.
I find Lawnchair to be good enough (and have more-or-less replecated my
Nova setup with it).
Were you using the latest version (15 Beta 2) ?
It is developing quite quickly.
Having switched to Nova a few years ago, as per suggestions here, I see
the new owners have started pushing Ads.
I'd be happy to switch to Prime, but not if there are still Ads. There
seem to be reports of Ads in Prime, anyone here using Prime and can verify?
I've contacted support, but still await an answer.
I've evaluated a couple of other launchers; Lawnchair and Niagara, but
they are no where near as good.
Having switched to Nova a few years ago, as per suggestions here, I see
the new owners have started pushing Ads.
I'd be happy to switch to Prime, but not if there are still Ads. There
seem to be reports of Ads in Prime, anyone here using Prime and can verify?
I've contacted support, but still await an answer.
I've evaluated a couple of other launchers; Lawnchair and Niagara, but
they are no where near as good.
On 01/02/2026 16:28, YTC1 wrote:
Having switched to Nova a few years ago, as per suggestions here, I see
the new owners have started pushing Ads.
I'd be happy to switch to Prime, but not if there are still Ads. There
seem to be reports of Ads in Prime, anyone here using Prime and can verify? >>
I've contacted support, but still await an answer.
I've evaluated a couple of other launchers; Lawnchair and Niagara, but
they are no where near as good.
I had never heard of such things as launchers until this thread. A quick look for Nova showed a "before" and an "after". The "before" was an
image of a screen full of app icons, and the "after was an image of a
screen full of... slightly more icons.
On 01/02/2026 16:28, YTC1 wrote:
Having switched to Nova a few years ago, as per suggestions here, I
see the new owners have started pushing Ads.
I'd be happy to switch to Prime, but not if there are still Ads. There
seem to be reports of Ads in Prime, anyone here using Prime and can
verify?
I've contacted support, but still await an answer.
I've evaluated a couple of other launchers; Lawnchair and Niagara, but
they are no where near as good.
I had never heard of such things as launchers until this thread. A quick look for Nova showed a "before" and an "after". The "before" was an
image of a screen full of app icons, and the "after was an image of a
screen full of... slightly more icons.
Goggle have a habit of changing the look and feel between Android
releases, there was one a couple of years ago that really pissed me off. >UKRM suggested Nova, as I could then retune it. And reshape all the bits
and bobs, plus keep the drawer as I like it.
If you use Samsung, then you use a Samsung launcher (for example).
Goggle have a habit of changing the look and feel between Android
releases, there was one a couple of years ago that really pissed me off. UKRM suggested Nova, as I could then retune it. And reshape all the bits
and bobs, plus keep the drawer as I like it.
I had never heard of such things as launchers until this thread. A
quick look for Nova showed a "before" and an "after". The "before"
was an image of a screen full of app icons, and the "after was an
image of a screen full of... slightly more icons.
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:I'd expect that to power down the phone.
Goggle have a habit of changing the look and feel between Android
releases, there was one a couple of years ago that really pissed me off.
UKRM suggested Nova, as I could then retune it. And reshape all the bits
and bobs, plus keep the drawer as I like it.
Don't I know it!
My Pixel 2 had the behavior where if you held in the power button for
a couple of seconds, it would take you directly to the Google Home
Now, on my newer Pixel 4a, 8 and 10 phones, you have to unlock the
phone, swipe down from the top of the screen, and press a control to
get to the device favorites screen. A huge regression, and one that
I would love to be able to revert back to the previous behavior.
On Wed, 4 Feb 2026 22:02:36 +0000, PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
I had never heard of such things as launchers until this thread. A
quick look for Nova showed a "before" and an "after". The "before"
was an image of a screen full of app icons, and the "after was an
image of a screen full of... slightly more icons.
*Nova* lets you add an icon for something that IS NOT an app but an
Android function. You can choose your own button face for it. You
can choose button faces for other things, too, such as Firefox
favorites. I got tired of the look and feel of the wallpaper page's
changing with every Android upgrade, so I switched to *Nova*. The
layout and the method of summoning it has been stable ever since.
This happened so long ago that I've forgotten how to use the builtin launcher. You can configure double-tap on the wallpaper to put the
phone to sleep. You can backup and restore the layout. Note: I use
*Nova* on a rooted phone, so these advantages may not apply to you.
I just want a Motorola "double chop" to turn the light one. I miss that.
But their phones went shit around 2019.
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
I just want a Motorola "double chop" to turn the light one. I miss that.
But their phones went shit around 2019.
Same here. It's the one feature that I remember that really
differentiated Motorola from other phones I had used.
I used to have a sucession of Motorola phones and they were generally
good feature-wise and seemed to be pretty well made. But their update
policy turned to shit which is what drove me to the Nexus / Pixel line.
There is an app that is supposed to work like the Moto chop chopThe 6a lets me tap 3 times on the back.
flashlight on off feature, but while I can sometimes get it to work,
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
I just want a Motorola "double chop" to turn the light one. I miss that.
But their phones went shit around 2019.
On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 09:16:01 +0000, YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
Goggle have a habit of changing the look and feel between Android >>releases, there was one a couple of years ago that really pissed me off. >>UKRM suggested Nova, as I could then retune it. And reshape all the bits >>and bobs, plus keep the drawer as I like it.
If you use Samsung, then you use a Samsung launcher (for example).
I got a new phone a couple of years ago (a Pixel 6), and was annoyed
by the changes Google had wrought.
So I installed the Microsoft Launcher! I know! It's bloody great :-)
Having switched to Nova a few years ago, as per suggestions here, I see
the new owners have started pushing Ads.
I'd be happy to switch to Prime, but not if there are still Ads. There
seem to be reports of Ads in Prime, anyone here using Prime and can verify?
I've contacted support, but still await an answer.
I've evaluated a couple of other launchers; Lawnchair and Niagara, but
they are no where near as good.
On 01/02/2026 16:28, YTC1 wrote:
Having switched to Nova a few years ago, as per suggestions here, I
see the new owners have started pushing Ads.
I'd be happy to switch to Prime, but not if there are still Ads. There
seem to be reports of Ads in Prime, anyone here using Prime and can
verify?
I've contacted support, but still await an answer.
I've evaluated a couple of other launchers; Lawnchair and Niagara, but
they are no where near as good.
I had never heard of such things as launchers until this thread. A quick look for Nova showed a "before" and an "after". The "before" was an
image of a screen full of app icons, and the "after was an image of a
screen full of... slightly more icons.
On 05/02/2026 20:05, Mark Olson wrote:
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
I just want a Motorola "double chop" to turn the light one. I miss that. >>> But their phones went shit around 2019.
<Chop, chop>
Cool G56 still does it.
Now HTF do I turn it off?
On 04/02/2026 22:02, PipL wrote:
On 01/02/2026 16:28, YTC1 wrote:
Having switched to Nova a few years ago, as per suggestions here, I
see the new owners have started pushing Ads.
I'd be happy to switch to Prime, but not if there are still Ads.
There seem to be reports of Ads in Prime, anyone here using Prime and
can verify?
I've contacted support, but still await an answer.
I've evaluated a couple of other launchers; Lawnchair and Niagara,
but they are no where near as good.
I had never heard of such things as launchers until this thread. A
quick look for Nova showed a "before" and an "after". The "before" was
an image of a screen full of app icons, and the "after was an image of
a screen full of... slightly more icons.
A couple of days later down the thread and I really don't feel the need
for a launcher. My Samsung phones have remained consistent in their appearance and menus, grouping apps couldn't be simpler, and the other quoted advantages of a launcher pass me by!
On 06/02/2026 15:52, Colin Irvine wrote:
On 04/02/2026 22:02, PipL wrote:
On 01/02/2026 16:28, YTC1 wrote:
Having switched to Nova a few years ago, as per suggestions here, I
see the new owners have started pushing Ads.
I'd be happy to switch to Prime, but not if there are still Ads.
There seem to be reports of Ads in Prime, anyone here using Prime
and can verify?
I've contacted support, but still await an answer.
I've evaluated a couple of other launchers; Lawnchair and Niagara,
but they are no where near as good.
I had never heard of such things as launchers until this thread. A
quick look for Nova showed a "before" and an "after". The "before"
was an image of a screen full of app icons, and the "after was an
image of a screen full of... slightly more icons.
A couple of days later down the thread and I really don't feel the
need for a launcher. My Samsung phones have remained consistent in
their appearance and menus, grouping apps couldn't be simpler, and the
other quoted advantages of a launcher pass me by!
Except you are using a launcher, just it is Samsung's launcher.
On 06/02/2026 16:13, YTC1 wrote:
On 06/02/2026 15:52, Colin Irvine wrote:
On 04/02/2026 22:02, PipL wrote:
On 01/02/2026 16:28, YTC1 wrote:
Having switched to Nova a few years ago, as per suggestions here, I >>>>> see the new owners have started pushing Ads.
I'd be happy to switch to Prime, but not if there are still Ads.
There seem to be reports of Ads in Prime, anyone here using Prime
and can verify?
I've contacted support, but still await an answer.
I've evaluated a couple of other launchers; Lawnchair and Niagara,
but they are no where near as good.
I had never heard of such things as launchers until this thread. A
quick look for Nova showed a "before" and an "after". The "before"
was an image of a screen full of app icons, and the "after was an
image of a screen full of... slightly more icons.
A couple of days later down the thread and I really don't feel the
need for a launcher. My Samsung phones have remained consistent in
their appearance and menus, grouping apps couldn't be simpler, and
the other quoted advantages of a launcher pass me by!
Except you are using a launcher, just it is Samsung's launcher.
<appease pedant> Alright, a different launcher that requires
installation </ap>.
On 06/02/2026 13:29, Peter Fisher wrote:
On 05/02/2026 20:05, Mark Olson wrote:
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
I just want a Motorola "double chop" to turn the light one. I miss
that.
But their phones went shit around 2019.
<Chop, chop>
Cool G56 still does it.
Now HTF do I turn it off?
Why would you want to?
(It's in the settings)
I would dearly love to get these back into a conventional format like:
16:41
I gather this is an android thing, not a Nokia thing, so would
eternally grateful for a fix for it if anyone has any ideas? [1]
I'm currently on the 6a. So far I like the Pixels (used to have a 4a).
What I hate is the size (and cost) of the newer ones (9/10).
Once I was finally convinced to go "smartphone" I was a Moto man.Same here, the original 2013 Moto G was my first fondleslab.
My only irritation with the one on my (Nokia) phone is the HUGE digits
on the lock screen clock in Android 12 which are placed in two rows, viz:
16
41
I would dearly love to get these back into a conventional format like:
16:41
YTC1 wrote:
I'm currently on the 6a. So far I like the Pixels (used to have a 4a).
What I hate is the size (and cost) of the newer ones (9/10).
The 9a is only a couple of mm larger than the 6a, and currently -u349
(was -u500 at launch).
On 05/02/2026 20:05, Mark Olson wrote:
YTC1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
I just want a Motorola "double chop" to turn the light one. I miss
that. But their phones went shit around 2019.
Same here. It's the one feature that I remember that really
differentiated Motorola from other phones I had used.
I used to have a sucession of Motorola phones and they were generally
Once I was finally convinced to go "smartphone" I was a Moto man.
chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
My only irritation with the one on my (Nokia) phone is the HUGE digits
on the lock screen clock in Android 12 which are placed in two rows, viz:
16
41
I would dearly love to get these back into a conventional format like:
16:41
In the lockscreen settings, do you have 'Dynamic Clock' option ?
"Clock size changes according to lockscreen content".
If so, turn it off.
YTC1 wrote:
I'm currently on the 6a. So far I like the Pixels (used to have a 4a).
What I hate is the size (and cost) of the newer ones (9/10).
The 9a is only a couple of mm larger than the 6a, and currently -u349
(was -u500 at launch).
My Pixel 2 had the behavior where if you held in the power button for
a couple of seconds, it would take you directly to the Google Home
device favorites screen, for controlling smart bulbs and switches.
Dead handy for something I used frequently. Of course holding in the
power button in also produced the controls for powering off, locking,
etc. but those were across the top and there was room for 6-8 devices
below that which was more than enough to cover my favorite devices.
Now, on my newer Pixel 4a, 8 and 10 phones, you have to unlock the
phone, swipe down from the top of the screen, and press a control to
get to the device favorites screen. A huge regression, and one that
I would love to be able to revert back to the previous behavior.
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