• That was fucking annoying

    From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jan 18 16:08:05 2026
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    I was just thinking the other day that punctures are pretty rare these days.

    Today I found the rear tyre on the Energica was almost flat, caused by a
    tiny V-shaped piece of sheet steel, possibly part of a clip or
    perforated plate, embedded point first about halfway between the tyre centreline and the edge. Doubly annoying because the tyre only has a
    couple of thousand miles on it and these Michelins are good for 8-9000
    miles. Plus the Guzzi is on blocks awaiting a new front tyre itself.

    So, puncture repair applied in the form of a sticky string patch.

    Has anyone tested how long these patches last? The instructions say
    temporary only to get to a repair place.
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    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip

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  • From Mark Olson@olsonm@tiny.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jan 18 16:47:17 2026
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    PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
    I was just thinking the other day that punctures are pretty rare these days.

    Today I found the rear tyre on the Energica was almost flat, caused by a tiny V-shaped piece of sheet steel, possibly part of a clip or
    perforated plate, embedded point first about halfway between the tyre centreline and the edge. Doubly annoying because the tyre only has a
    couple of thousand miles on it and these Michelins are good for 8-9000 miles. Plus the Guzzi is on blocks awaiting a new front tyre itself.

    So, puncture repair applied in the form of a sticky string patch.

    Has anyone tested how long these patches last? The instructions say temporary only to get to a repair place.

    I've only had success with them in car tires where they lasted the life
    of the tire. The one time I used them in a motorcycle situation, my
    GL1200 Aspencade had an enormous gash in the rear tire and needed two
    plugs to fill the hole, which only served to get me home with a couple
    of stops to refill the leaky tire from the onboard air compressor.

    Since I can afford to buy another tire I would take the safe way out
    and replace the tire. Some folks say a properly done internal patch
    is safe as a permanent repair, and I'm sure many have just left the
    sticky string in place without problems.


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  • From Alan Lee@alan@darkroom.plus.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jan 18 16:56:14 2026
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    On 18/01/2026 16:08, PipL wrote:
    Has anyone tested how long these patches last? The instructions say temporary only to get to a repair place.


    If you mean the 'strings' around 2-4mm thick, that you insert into the
    hole, along with some glue, then yes. We had a blowout in Czechia, fixed
    it at the roadside, then panicked for a day trying to get a new tyre in Germany, but couldnt find one in stock where we were going. So we rode
    home with it like that for 900+ miles. It needed a top up of air each
    morning, but got us back home.
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  • From Ben Blaney@benblaney@gmail.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jan 18 18:09:13 2026
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    On Jan 18, 2026 at 11:08:05 AM EST, "PipL" <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:

    I was just thinking the other day that punctures are pretty rare these days.

    Murray got a disproportionate number in the lat few years of his life. Perhaps the streets of South London are paved with nails, or perhaps that dotty old fool rode in the gutters all the time.

    I don't think I've ever had a puncture, on a bike, in a car, or in an HGV.


    Today I found the rear tyre on the Energica was almost flat, caused by a
    tiny V-shaped piece of sheet steel, possibly part of a clip or
    perforated plate, embedded point first about halfway between the tyre centreline and the edge. Doubly annoying because the tyre only has a
    couple of thousand miles on it and these Michelins are good for 8-9000
    miles. Plus the Guzzi is on blocks awaiting a new front tyre itself.

    Bad luck.

    So, puncture repair applied in the form of a sticky string patch.

    Has anyone tested how long these patches last? The instructions say
    temporary only to get to a repair place.

    I would take it on a track day with a patch, nor 150mph on the autobahn, and I'd not put off replacement forever, but I wouldn't stress about it too much.
    I'd get it replacement when my calendar permitted.
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jan 18 18:09:54 2026
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    On 18/01/2026 16:47, Mark Olson wrote:
    PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
    I was just thinking the other day that punctures are pretty rare these days. >>
    Today I found the rear tyre on the Energica was almost flat, caused by a
    tiny V-shaped piece of sheet steel, possibly part of a clip or
    perforated plate, embedded point first about halfway between the tyre
    centreline and the edge. Doubly annoying because the tyre only has a
    couple of thousand miles on it and these Michelins are good for 8-9000
    miles. Plus the Guzzi is on blocks awaiting a new front tyre itself.

    So, puncture repair applied in the form of a sticky string patch.

    Has anyone tested how long these patches last? The instructions say
    temporary only to get to a repair place.

    I've only had success with them in car tires where they lasted the life
    of the tire. The one time I used them in a motorcycle situation, my
    GL1200 Aspencade had an enormous gash in the rear tire and needed two
    plugs to fill the hole, which only served to get me home with a couple
    of stops to refill the leaky tire from the onboard air compressor.

    Since I can afford to buy another tire I would take the safe way out
    and replace the tire. Some folks say a properly done internal patch
    is safe as a permanent repair, and I'm sure many have just left the
    sticky string in place without problems.

    Looking around the various forums, the consensus seems to be "keep an
    eye on pressure but they're generally fine" despite what the
    manufacturer says. I'll see what the pressure us tomorrow - it went up a
    bit after a 2-mile trundle round the block as you'd expect of an intact
    tyre - and just make sure I'm carrying a pump. It's a small hole (the
    tool actually made it bigger) in the rear tyre, so if it fails most
    likely the handling'll go odd over a minute or so and I'll have to pull
    over.

    My biggest concern is that the sticky string kit is several years old,
    though the glue is relatively recent: I had to take it from a kit I
    bought for the car. The car strings and tool were too wide to fit the hole.
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    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip
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  • From Simon Wilson@siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jan 18 18:11:53 2026
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    On 18/01/2026 16:08, PipL wrote:


    Has anyone tested how long these patches last? The instructions say temporary only to get to a repair place.


    Lots and lots of years on my little Kubota.

    Also I had a car puncture fixed in a tyre shop en France a while back,
    they used sticky string too.
    --
    /Simon
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  • From Mike Fleming@mike@tauzero.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jan 19 01:46:48 2026
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    On 18/01/2026 16:08, PipL wrote:

    So, puncture repair applied in the form of a sticky string patch.

    Has anyone tested how long these patches last? The instructions say temporary only to get to a repair place.

    My only attempt to use one of those failed miserably. However, I have
    had a few tyre repairs over the years at my local tyre shop, using
    proper internal patches, who used to charge -u15 for a patch on an
    unmounted tyre. Rather irrelevant now as both my roadworthy bikes have
    tubed tyres.
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  • From boots@news@millhouse-communications.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jan 19 08:20:02 2026
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    On 18/01/2026 16:08 PipL penned these words:
    Has anyone tested how long these patches last? The instructions say temporary only to get to a repair place.

    I used on on an almost brand new tyre being it was late Saturday as I recall and
    I had a long trip planned the next day. It was still there when the tyre wore out 5k miles or so later and despite pulling on it as hard as we could manage neither the tyre bod or I could shift it from the old tyre.
    --
    Ian

    "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"
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  • From Sqirrel99@secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jan 19 09:02:00 2026
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    PipL wrote:
    I was just thinking the other day that punctures are pretty rare these days.

    Today I found the rear tyre on the Energica was almost flat, caused by a tiny V-shaped piece of sheet steel, possibly part of a clip or
    perforated plate, embedded point first about halfway between the tyre centreline and the edge. Doubly annoying because the tyre only has a
    couple of thousand miles on it and these Michelins are good for 8-9000 miles. Plus the Guzzi is on blocks awaiting a new front tyre itself.

    So, puncture repair applied in the form of a sticky string patch.

    Has anyone tested how long these patches last? The instructions say temporary only to get to a repair place.

    I currently have one in my rear tyre from June 2025, and have covered a
    few thousand miles since. I check pressures regularly and it hasn't lost
    any at all. I'm happy to use them as a permanent repair (with the caveat
    of checking pressures regularly, which I do anyway).
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  • From geoffC@me@home.nl to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jan 19 16:56:15 2026
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    On 19/1/26 05:09, PipL wrote:


    Looking around the various forums, the consensus seems to be "keep an
    eye on pressure but they're generally fine" despite what the
    manufacturer says. I'll see what the pressure us tomorrow - it went up a
    bit after a 2-mile trundle round the block as you'd expect of an intact
    tyre - and just make sure I'm carrying a pump. It's a small hole (the
    tool actually made it bigger) in the rear tyre, so if it fails most
    likely the handling'll go odd over a minute or so and I'll have to pull >over.

    A tyre bloke once told me that a lot of blowouts are caused by a slow
    puncture which allows air to get in-between the layers, causing them to
    separate (eventually).
    Here is one I prepared (20years) earlier.


    https://1drv.ms/i/c/e6866aaf8c925c9b/IQDEoIa9oZSqTaSaxfbv3FW9AR7KXayHL5N61-TDnvcaigg

    Being supported by its twin and the other 3 axles meant that the rim didn't
    carve into the sidewall so you can still see what happened. It exploded
    basically.
    Upshot is that if the pressure drops over time then renew it. If the
    pressure holds for say a week then it should be OK until the tyre wears
    out.
    --
    Geoff
    NTV 650
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jan 19 22:53:22 2026
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    On 19/01/2026 16:56, geoffC wrote:
    On 19/1/26 05:09, PipL wrote:

    A tyre bloke once told me that a lot of blowouts are caused by a slow puncture which allows air to get in-between the layers, causing them to separate (eventually).
    Here is one I prepared (20years) earlier.


    https://1drv.ms/i/c/e6866aaf8c925c9b/ IQDEoIa9oZSqTaSaxfbv3FW9AR7KXayHL5N61-TDnvcaigg

    Being supported by its twin and the other 3 axles meant that the rim didn't carve into the sidewall so you can still see what happened. It exploded basically.
    Upshot is that if the pressure drops over time then renew it. If the
    pressure holds for say a week then it should be OK until the tyre wears
    out.

    That looks... interesting.
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    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jan 19 22:56:03 2026
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    On 19/01/2026 09:02, Sqirrel99 wrote:
    PipL wrote:
    I was just thinking the other day that punctures are pretty rare these
    days.

    Today I found the rear tyre on the Energica was almost flat, caused by
    a tiny V-shaped piece of sheet steel, possibly part of a clip or
    perforated plate, embedded point first about halfway between the tyre
    centreline and the edge. Doubly annoying because the tyre only has a
    couple of thousand miles on it and these Michelins are good for 8-9000
    miles. Plus the Guzzi is on blocks awaiting a new front tyre itself.

    So, puncture repair applied in the form of a sticky string patch.

    Has anyone tested how long these patches last? The instructions say
    temporary only to get to a repair place.

    I currently have one in my rear tyre from June 2025, and have covered a
    few thousand miles since. I check pressures regularly and it hasn't lost
    any at all. I'm happy to use them as a permanent repair (with the caveat
    of checking pressures regularly, which I do anyway).

    Well, this had held pressue overnight, and when I checked mid-afternoon,
    had gone up 1 psi, so I reckon it's sealing well. As you say, I'll be
    keeping a beady eye on it (well, a tready eye on it anyway).
    --

    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip
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