• winter project #2

    From Simon Wilson@siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat Jan 10 20:35:17 2026
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    As part of The Great Sort Out, I've got around to starting to fit the replacement gearbox I got for the ex-Turby GS.

    Flippin' 'eck it's a lot of work to get to it. I've pretty much undone everything, untangled all the loom etc. to split the bike in two.

    It's ll factory as far as I can tell - no-one's been in there already,
    not bad for a ~20 year old bike.

    Decided to stop for today as it hasn't easily separated so I'll double
    check tomorrow I haven't missed anything.

    I can see why it's a cost prohibitive job to have done at a dealer. I
    think putting it back together is going to take quite a long time.
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  • From Mark Roberts@mark@markr.myzen.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat Jan 10 21:27:55 2026
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    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Simon Wilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:


    Flippin' 'eck it's a lot of work to get to it.

    Rite of passage for us BMW flat twin owners ;)
    At least it doesn't have too much plastic bits....
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  • From Mark Olson@olsonm@tiny.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jan 11 15:30:20 2026
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    Simon Wilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
    As part of The Great Sort Out, I've got around to starting to fit the replacement gearbox I got for the ex-Turby GS.

    What went wrong with the original gearbox? I didn't think that bike
    had done immense mileage or suffered from neglect/abuse.

    Is it common for these to fail or was this a bit of an outlier?
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  • From Simon Wilson@siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jan 11 16:59:52 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 15:30, Mark Olson wrote:
    Simon Wilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
    As part of The Great Sort Out, I've got around to starting to fit the
    replacement gearbox I got for the ex-Turby GS.

    What went wrong with the original gearbox? I didn't think that bike
    had done immense mileage or suffered from neglect/abuse.

    Is it common for these to fail or was this a bit of an outlier?

    It's done ~70K miles, so not huge. I've just finished removing the
    gearbox and clutch.

    Clutch friction plate is still in spec. (just).

    Balancer shaft oil seal is leaking quite badly (common problem).

    It's got a loud, annoying, rattle when in neutral and the clutch is out. Common issue on the 2008 models, I *think* it's the internal input shaft
    shock absorber/cush drive. This little, expensive, bugger: https://www.advrider.com/f/attachments/input-shaft-jpg.5428667/

    I managed to get a s/h gearbox and as far as I can tell that shaft is
    good in it.

    I'm going to take the original gearbox apart to have a look-see before I
    put everything back together.
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    /Simon
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jan 11 17:04:35 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 16:59, Simon Wilson wrote:
    On 11/01/2026 15:30, Mark Olson wrote:
    Simon Wilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
    As part of The Great Sort Out, I've got around to starting to fit the
    replacement gearbox I got for the ex-Turby GS.

    What went wrong with the original gearbox? I didn't think that bike
    had done immense mileage or suffered from neglect/abuse.

    Is it common for these to fail or was this a bit of an outlier?

    It's done ~70K miles, so not huge. I've just finished removing the
    gearbox and clutch.

    Clutch friction plate is still in spec. (just).

    Balancer shaft oil seal is leaking quite badly (common problem).

    It's got a loud, annoying, rattle when in neutral and the clutch is out.

    It's a Ducati :-)
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    Bruce Porter
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jan 11 19:23:02 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 16:59, Simon Wilson wrote:
    On 11/01/2026 15:30, Mark Olson wrote:
    Simon Wilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:
    As part of The Great Sort Out, I've got around to starting to fit the
    replacement gearbox I got for the ex-Turby GS.

    What went wrong with the original gearbox? I didn't think that bike
    had done immense mileage or suffered from neglect/abuse.

    Is it common for these to fail or was this a bit of an outlier?

    It's done ~70K miles, so not huge. I've just finished removing the
    gearbox and clutch.

    Clutch friction plate is still in spec. (just).

    Balancer shaft oil seal is leaking quite badly (common problem).

    It's got a loud, annoying, rattle when in neutral and the clutch is out. Common issue on the 2008 models, I *think* it's the internal input shaft shock absorber/cush drive. This little, expensive, bugger: https:// www.advrider.com/f/attachments/input-shaft-jpg.5428667/

    It doesn't look centred, which suggests that the spring is broken or something's shifted or the cush thrust bearing has worn badly.

    Weren't there other BMW GS transmission issues, on other models, maybe?

    Many years ago a girlfriend had an R75/7. When she changed the gearbox
    oil, a bit of a gear fell out. I get the impression that BMW have never
    been good at making transmissions.




    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Jan 11 19:25:32 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 17:04, YTC1 wrote:
    On 11/01/2026 16:59, Simon Wilson wrote:

    It's got a loud, annoying, rattle when in neutral and the clutch is out.

    It's a Ducati :-)
    Some Guzzis also rattle but conversely, when when the clutch is pulled
    in at idle, but that's just the floating clutch plate rattling around.
    --

    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip
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  • From Simon Wilson@siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jan 12 10:31:53 2026
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    On 11/01/2026 19:23, PipL wrote:


    It doesn't look centred, which suggests that the spring is broken or something's shifted or the cush thrust bearing has worn badly.


    That pic's not of my actualyshaft. Fnaar. There are some little fold
    over tabs on the cylinder that compresses the spring. I believe that
    these break off and the spring loses tension.

    I'll be thoroughly inspecting my shaft later on today, once I've whipped
    it out.
    --
    /Simon

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  • From Ace@Ace@ch.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Jan 12 14:22:06 2026
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    On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 10:31:53 +0000, Simon Wilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:


    I'll be thoroughly inspecting my shaft later on today, once I've whipped
    it out.
    Fnaar.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pelfWEEwseQ
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    http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/
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  • From Simon Wilson@siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jan 13 11:36:08 2026
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    On 10/01/2026 20:35, Simon Wilson wrote:
    As part of The Great Sort Out, I've got around to starting to fit the replacement gearbox I got for the ex-Turby GS.

    Flippin' 'eck it's a lot of work to get to it. I've pretty much undone everything, untangled all the loom etc. to split the bike in two.

    It's ll factory as far as I can tell - no-one's been in there already,
    not bad for a ~20 year old bike.

    Decided to stop for today as it hasn't easily separated so I'll double
    check tomorrow I haven't missed anything.

    I can see why it's a cost prohibitive job to have done at a dealer. I
    think putting it back together is going to take quite a long time.


    I've got the original gearbox apart and the shock absorber shaft seems
    in good condition, the tabs holding the spring in compression are all
    fine. So maybe it's just a trait of these gearboxes they are noisy in
    neutral. There does seem to be quite a lot of backlash between the input
    drive shaft and the gear it engages with.

    Do I swap the gearbox out for the unknown quantity replacement I have
    for it, or just put the original one back in? Hmmmm choices.

    At least the job will not have been a waste of time as the balancer
    shaft seal and clutch plate definitely needed replacing.
    --
    /Simon
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  • From Peter Fisher@nospam@nosspam.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Jan 13 14:03:49 2026
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    On 13/01/2026 11:36, Simon Wilson wrote:
    On 10/01/2026 20:35, Simon Wilson wrote:
    As part of The Great Sort Out, I've got around to starting to fit the
    replacement gearbox I got for the ex-Turby GS.

    Flippin' 'eck it's a lot of work to get to it. I've pretty much undone
    everything, untangled all the loom etc. to split the bike in two.

    It's ll factory as far as I can tell - no-one's been in there already,
    not bad for a ~20 year old bike.

    Decided to stop for today as it hasn't easily separated so I'll double
    check tomorrow I haven't missed anything.

    I can see why it's a cost prohibitive job to have done at a dealer. I
    think putting it back together is going to take quite a long time.


    I've got the original gearbox apart and the shock absorber shaft seems
    in good condition, the tabs holding the spring in compression are all
    fine. So maybe it's just a trait of these gearboxes they are noisy in neutral. There does seem to be quite a lot of backlash between the input drive shaft and the gear it engages with.

    Do I swap the gearbox out for the unknown quantity replacement I have
    for it, or just put the original one back in? Hmmmm choices.

    Indeed. Better the devil you know?


    At least the job will not have been a waste of time as the balancer
    shaft seal and clutch plate definitely needed replacing.


    This.
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  • From Champ@neal@champ.org.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Jan 14 13:23:33 2026
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    On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 14:22:06 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 10:31:53 +0000, Simon Wilson ><siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:


    I'll be thoroughly inspecting my shaft later on today, once I've whipped >>it out.

    Fnaar.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pelfWEEwseQ

    <applause>
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    neal at champ dot org dot uk

    I don't know, but I been told
    You never slow down, you never grow old
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