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So the SSD on my Optiplex9020 appeared to have failed (not showing in BIOS)following a power cut. Except after investing ten quid in a
USB/SATA adapter I can read it out of the box.

I had checked the power and data cables several times. So I'm guessing
the SATA port it was connected to is FUBAR?

I will try connecting it to the other one, now I have taken the HDD out
and see what happens.

Next problem is I can't copy a lot of the folders like 'Program Files'.
AI suggests some kind of nuke from orbit command line fix.

takeown /f X:\ /r /d y
icacls X:\ /reset /t /c
icacls X:\ /grant YourUserName:(OI)(CI)F /t /c


Using the file explorer advanced settings appeared to change ownership
bit the I got an error when trying to give permission to the
administrator if the machine the SSD is currently plugged in to.

Reluctant to try the AI fix yet, but does it look sane?

I think I'll try a reboot with just the SSD on the other port (Linux
could see the HDD) first.
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Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
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On 15/12/2025 12:48, Pete Fisher wrote:

takeown /f X:\ /r /d y
icacls X:\ /reset /t /c
icacls X:\ /grant YourUserName:(OI)(CI)F /t /c

Using the file explorer advanced settings appeared to change ownership
bit the I got an error when trying to give permission to the
administrator if the machine the SSD is currently plugged in to.

Reluctant to try the AI fix yet, but does it look sane?

I use something similar when One Drive occasionally goes tits up. ie. it
keeps synchronising in some kind of infinite loop.

takeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive

-atakeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive /r /d y

-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F

-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F /t


and it works, fucknose how but it does without initiating any doomsday
scenarios. Takes a while mind. I think it 'just' resets file permissions on
each individual file.
IIWY I would do that first, secure your data and then proceed with other
strategies.
By which time Christmas will be long gone of course so.....
Happy Christmas.
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Geoff
NTV 650
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On 15/12/2025 12:04, geoffC wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:48, Pete Fisher wrote:

takeown /f X:\ /r /d y
icacls X:\ /reset /t /c
icacls X:\ /grant YourUserName:(OI)(CI)F /t /c


Using the file explorer advanced settings appeared to change ownership
bit the I got an error when trying to give permission to the
administrator if the machine the SSD is currently plugged in to.

Reluctant to try the AI fix yet, but does it look sane?

I use something similar when One Drive occasionally goes tits up. ie. it keeps synchronising in some kind of infinite loop.

takeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive

-atakeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive /r /d y

-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F

-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F /t

and it works, fucknose how but it does without initiating any doomsday scenarios. Takes a while mind. I think it 'just' resets file permissions on each individual file.
IIWY I would do that first, secure your data and then proceed with other strategies.
By which time Christmas will be long gone of course so.....
Happy Christmas.

Best I draw a veil over what ensued. I've managed to get some files off
it, but it was a fraught experience.

Anyway, I thought I would improve the shining hour by switching from the German server to Eteranl September before it was too late.



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On 16/12/2025 12:07, Peter Fisher wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:04, geoffC wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:48, Pete Fisher wrote:

takeown /f X:\ /r /d y
icacls X:\ /reset /t /c
icacls X:\ /grant YourUserName:(OI)(CI)F /t /c


Using the file explorer advanced settings appeared to change
ownership bit the I got an error when trying to give permission to
the administrator if the machine the SSD is currently plugged in to.

Reluctant to try the AI fix yet, but does it look sane?

I use something similar when One Drive occasionally goes tits up. ie. it
keeps synchronising in some kind of infinite loop.

takeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive

-a-atakeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive /r /d y

-a-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F

-a-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F /t


and it works, fucknose how but it does without initiating any doomsday
scenarios. Takes a while mind. I think it 'just' resets file
permissions on
each individual file.
IIWY I would do that first, secure your data and then proceed with other
strategies.
By which time Christmas will be long gone of course so.....
Happy Christmas.

Best I draw a veil over what ensued. I've managed to get some files off
it, but it was a fraught experience.

Anyway, I thought I would improve the shining hour by switching from the German server to Eteranl September before it was too late.

Ooops NO sig sep!

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On 16/12/2025 12:08, Peter Fisher wrote:

On 16/12/2025 12:07, Peter Fisher wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:04, geoffC wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:48, Pete Fisher wrote:

takeown /f X:\ /r /d y
icacls X:\ /reset /t /c
icacls X:\ /grant YourUserName:(OI)(CI)F /t /c


Using the file explorer advanced settings appeared to change
ownership bit the I got an error when trying to give permission to
the administrator if the machine the SSD is currently plugged in to.

Reluctant to try the AI fix yet, but does it look sane?

I use something similar when One Drive occasionally goes tits up. ie. it >>> keeps synchronising in some kind of infinite loop.

takeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive

-a-atakeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive /r /d y

-a-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F

-a-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F /t


and it works, fucknose how but it does without initiating any doomsday
scenarios. Takes a while mind. I think it 'just' resets file
permissions on
each individual file.
IIWY I would do that first, secure your data and then proceed with other >>> strategies.
By which time Christmas will be long gone of course so.....
Happy Christmas.

Best I draw a veil over what ensued. I've managed to get some files
off it, but it was a fraught experience.

Anyway, I thought I would improve the shining hour by switching from
the German server to Eteranl September before it was too late.

-aOoops NO sig sep!

--

That's better.
--
Moto Morini 2C/375
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"
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Peter Fisher wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:04, geoffC wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:48, Pete Fisher wrote:

takeown /f X:\ /r /d y
icacls X:\ /reset /t /c
icacls X:\ /grant YourUserName:(OI)(CI)F /t /c


Using the file explorer advanced settings appeared to change
ownership bit the I got an error when trying to give permission
to the administrator if the machine the SSD is currently plugged
in to.

Reluctant to try the AI fix yet, but does it look sane?

I use something similar when One Drive occasionally goes tits up.
ie. it keeps synchronising in some kind of infinite loop.

takeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive

-atakeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive /r /d y

-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F

-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F /t


and it works, fucknose how but it does without initiating any
doomsday scenarios. Takes a while mind. I think it 'just' resets
file permissions on each individual file.
IIWY I would do that first, secure your data and then proceed with
other strategies.
By which time Christmas will be long gone of course so.....
Happy Christmas.

Best I draw a veil over what ensued. I've managed to get some files
off it, but it was a fraught experience.

carnage?
or worse?

Anyway, I thought I would improve the shining hour by switching from
the German server to Eteranl September before it was too late.

and to think I thought they were one and the same thing.....
--
Geoff
NTV 650
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Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net> wrote in
news:10hri7v$2nj2h$3@dont-email.me:

On 16/12/2025 12:08, Peter Fisher wrote:

On 16/12/2025 12:07, Peter Fisher wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:04, geoffC wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:48, Pete Fisher wrote:

takeown /f X:\ /r /d y
icacls X:\ /reset /t /c
icacls X:\ /grant YourUserName:(OI)(CI)F /t /c


Using the file explorer advanced settings appeared to change
ownership bit the I got an error when trying to give permission to
the administrator if the machine the SSD is currently plugged in
to.

Reluctant to try the AI fix yet, but does it look sane?

I use something similar when One Drive occasionally goes tits up.
ie. it keeps synchronising in some kind of infinite loop.

takeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive

-a-atakeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive /r /d y

-a-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F

-a-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F /t


and it works, fucknose how but it does without initiating any
doomsday scenarios. Takes a while mind. I think it 'just' resets
file permissions on
each individual file.
IIWY I would do that first, secure your data and then proceed with
other strategies.
By which time Christmas will be long gone of course so.....
Happy Christmas.

Best I draw a veil over what ensued. I've managed to get some files
off it, but it was a fraught experience.

Anyway, I thought I would improve the shining hour by switching from
the German server to Eteranl September before it was too late.

-aOoops NO sig sep!

that's 2 rounds you need to get in

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On 16/12/2025 14:16, GeoffC wrote:

Peter Fisher wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:04, geoffC wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:48, Pete Fisher wrote:

takeown /f X:\ /r /d y
icacls X:\ /reset /t /c
icacls X:\ /grant YourUserName:(OI)(CI)F /t /c


Using the file explorer advanced settings appeared to change
ownership bit the I got an error when trying to give permission
to the administrator if the machine the SSD is currently plugged
in to.

Reluctant to try the AI fix yet, but does it look sane?

I use something similar when One Drive occasionally goes tits up.
ie. it keeps synchronising in some kind of infinite loop.

takeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive

-atakeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive /r /d y

-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F

-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F /t


and it works, fucknose how but it does without initiating any
doomsday scenarios. Takes a while mind. I think it 'just' resets
file permissions on each individual file.
IIWY I would do that first, secure your data and then proceed with
other strategies.
By which time Christmas will be long gone of course so.....
Happy Christmas.

Best I draw a veil over what ensued. I've managed to get some files
off it, but it was a fraught experience.

carnage?
or worse?

Anyway, I thought I would improve the shining hour by switching from
the German server to Eteranl September before it was too late.

and to think I thought they were one and the same thing.....

Recoverable carnage. but I will never believe ChatGPT again on such matters.

Ah, I thought news.individual.net was the German server - Freie
Universitat Berlin, but ISWYM.
--
Moto Morini 2C/375
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"
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Peter Fisher wrote:

On 16/12/2025 14:16, GeoffC wrote:

Peter Fisher wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:04, geoffC wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:48, Pete Fisher wrote:

takeown /f X:\ /r /d y
icacls X:\ /reset /t /c
icacls X:\ /grant YourUserName:(OI)(CI)F /t /c


Using the file explorer advanced settings appeared to change >>>>>ownership bit the I got an error when trying to give
permission to the administrator if the machine the SSD is
currently plugged in to.

Reluctant to try the AI fix yet, but does it look sane?

I use something similar when One Drive occasionally goes tits
up. ie. it keeps synchronising in some kind of infinite loop.

takeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive

-atakeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive /r /d y

-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F

-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F /t


and it works, fucknose how but it does without initiating any
doomsday scenarios. Takes a while mind. I think it 'just' resets
file permissions on each individual file.
IIWY I would do that first, secure your data and then proceed
with other strategies.
By which time Christmas will be long gone of course so.....
Happy Christmas.

Best I draw a veil over what ensued. I've managed to get some
files off it, but it was a fraught experience.

carnage?
or worse?

Anyway, I thought I would improve the shining hour by switching
from the German server to Eteranl September before it was too
late.

and to think I thought they were one and the same thing.....

Recoverable carnage. but I will never believe ChatGPT again on such
matters.

Aye, there are nutters out there expounding all kinds of nonsense and
AI just scoops it all up and regurgitates it.

Ah, I thought news.individual.net was the German server - Freie
Universitat Berlin, but ISWYM.

I think I thunk wrong........
Somebody will be along shortly to explain the difference....
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Geoff
NTV 650
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 15:25:45 +0000, Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net>
wrote:

Ah, I thought news.individual.net was the German server - Freie
Universitat Berlin, but ISWYM.

It was/is.
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Colin Irvine
R1250RS
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On 16/12/2025 16:14, Colin Irvine wrote:

On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 15:25:45 +0000, Peter Fisher <nospam@nosspam.net>
wrote:

Ah, I thought news.individual.net was the German server - Freie
Universitat Berlin, but ISWYM.

It was/is.

'Swot I thought. The 'Cheesy Server' presumably was in the low countries?
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Moto Morini 2C/375
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"
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On 16/12/2025 15:25, Peter Fisher wrote:

On 16/12/2025 14:16, GeoffC wrote:

Peter Fisher wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:04, geoffC wrote:

On 15/12/2025 12:48, Pete Fisher wrote:

takeown /f X:\ /r /d y
icacls X:\ /reset /t /c
icacls X:\ /grant YourUserName:(OI)(CI)F /t /c


Using the file explorer advanced settings appeared to change
ownership-a bit the I got an error when trying to give permission
to the-a administrator if the machine the SSD is currently plugged
in to.

Reluctant to try the AI fix yet, but does it look sane?

I use something similar when One Drive occasionally goes tits up.
ie. it keeps synchronising in some kind of infinite loop.

takeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive

-a-atakeown /F E:\ME\Onedrive /r /d y

-a-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F

-a-aicacls E:\ME\Onedrive /grant Administrators:F /t


and it works, fucknose how but it does without initiating any
doomsday scenarios. Takes a while mind. I think it 'just' resets
file permissions on each individual file.
IIWY I would do that first, secure your data and then proceed with
other strategies.
By which time Christmas will be long gone of course so.....
Happy Christmas.

Best I draw a veil over what ensued. I've managed to get some files
off it, but it was a fraught experience.

carnage?
or worse?

Anyway, I thought I would improve the shining hour by switching from
the German server to Eteranl September before it was too late.

and to think I thought they were one and the same thing.....

Recoverable carnage. but I will never believe ChatGPT again on such
matters.

Ah, I thought news.individual.net was the German server - Freie
Universitat Berlin, but ISWYM.

In fact, the carnage was the total destruction of the system partition
on the SSD. Not that big an issue as I didn't want to resuurect the
machine (old and not W11 compliant). It might make a decent Ubuntu box
or NAS if the HDD SATA port is OK (Puppy Linux could read the drive).
Trying not to accumulate even more boxes though. it was the files on the
'C' drive that I am keen to recover. Not vital but it would be good if I
could get some of the Visual Studio projects off. A lot were backed up,
but not every version.

Managed to take control of the user folder by accepting windows offer to
let me see them and have made copies OK. No error messages now, but for
some reason File Manager is barfing on the mega folders, but coping with
some subfolders OK. Weird, but at least some nuggets of data are being
raked from the ashes.
--
Moto Morini 2C/375
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"
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