• On the length of things

    From Neil Ronketti@neil@ronketti.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Nov 30 19:59:33 2025
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    I feel a bit guilty for derailing Champ's thread trying to sell his ZXR,
    so it's probably worth starting another one.

    Like Champ, I was quite startled by the length of time that people have
    owned bikes, and as mentioned, my record is about three years. And then
    we started talking about guitars (again, my record was about three years
    for a Yamaha Pacifica) and I got to thinking about just holding onto
    stuff. I'm ruthless about keeping a clear space, and I move things on
    very quickly. I've never kept anything for long. Books, guitars,
    motorbikes, they all come into my life and shuffle on very quickly.

    Apart from tools. I have ancient and obscure spanners handed down
    through generations that I just keep hold of. There's probably not a
    fastener left in the world that they would still fit, yet I can't throw
    them away. I have 40yr old screwdrivers with broken tips that I keep.
    There's no reason to do so, other than for opening paint cans. My
    multimeter is probably older than me, and a modern one from Aliexpress
    would cost a tenner, and would do everything better and in a smaller
    package. But again, I keep soldiering on with old stuff just because,
    well, it's what I've always done.

    What is it with tools? Why do I keep those, but nothing else?
    --
    nr.

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  • From Mark Olson@olsonm@tiny.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Nov 30 21:26:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Neil Ronketti <neil@ronketti.invalid> wrote:

    What is it with tools? Why do I keep those, but nothing else?

    I've got a fair number of my dad's (aircraft mechanic & Liberty ship
    welder during WWII) tools, and also his dad's (gunsmith) tools. Hard
    to throw any of those out for obvious reasons.

    Dad at Northwest Orient Airlines in 1958, working on a Boeing 377
    Stratocruiser 28 cylinder engine.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/mnWPhQtPdaTcr3Lz5
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  • From Sol@solcambs@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 08:55:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/11/2025 21:26, Mark Olson wrote:

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/mnWPhQtPdaTcr3Lz5

    I'm struck by how "mechanical" and "heath robinson" 1950's technology
    looks. Look at that engine! A myriad of pipes and that gut wrenching
    anxiety that people flew over the atlantic with those engines!
    --
    Sol
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  • From Ace@Ace@ch.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 10:32:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:59:33 +0000, Neil Ronketti
    <neil@ronketti.invalid> wrote:

    I feel a bit guilty for derailing Champ's thread

    NAHAY?
    --
    Ace
    http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/
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  • From Neil Ronketti@neil@ronketti.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 10:22:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/12/2025 09:32, Ace wrote:
    On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:59:33 +0000, Neil Ronketti
    <neil@ronketti.invalid> wrote:

    I feel a bit guilty for derailing Champ's thread

    NAHAY?

    Heh. Not as such - I just think it's good form to not derail a selling
    thread. Anything else is fair game I guess. And I'm not going to
    apologise for apologising :)
    --
    nr.
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 11:50:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/11/2025 19:59, Neil Ronketti wrote:
    I feel a bit guilty for derailing Champ's thread trying to sell his ZXR,
    so it's probably worth starting another one.

    Like Champ, I was quite startled by the length of time that people have owned bikes, and as mentioned, my record is about three years. And then

    I missed that, I've had the XJR now since September 1999.
    I'd still have my 2006 Peg if some bastard hadn't stolen it.

    I keep things because they work, and I am used to their foibles.
    I sell Jean's bikes though :-)



    What is it with tools? Why do I keep those, but nothing else?


    IT kit is one of my crimes, I have cables, connectors, memory, boards
    and drives. Just in case.
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From Mark Olson@olsonm@tiny.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 14:19:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Sol <solcambs@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 30/11/2025 21:26, Mark Olson wrote:

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/mnWPhQtPdaTcr3Lz5

    I'm struck by how "mechanical" and "heath robinson" 1950's technology
    looks. Look at that engine! A myriad of pipes and that gut wrenching
    anxiety that people flew over the atlantic with those engines!

    Well, they did have four of them per aircraft (four times as many ways to
    lose an engine, some might say).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R-4360_Wasp_Major

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_377_Stratocruiser



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  • From Sqirrel99@secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 10:53:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Neil Ronketti wrote:
    Like Champ, I was quite startled by the length of time that people have owned bikes, and as mentioned, my record is about three years.

    I've owned my '02 GSX-R750 since 2008, although I don't ride it much
    now; It has 65,000 miles on it now, bought at 11,000.
    It replaced my disappointing ZXR.

    I bought its 'replacement' ('13 Speed Triple) in 2019 at 17,000 miles.
    It now has 52,000.

    If I like a bike, and it does everything I need it to do, then why
    change ? All sorts of memories are associated with it, I've 'improved'
    it to my liking and build a 'relationship' with it.

    On top of that, I really dislike most modern bikes' TFT displays and
    busy switchgear, which reduces my desire to change (FOMO ?) still further.


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  • From AndrewR@andrew.rockface.spam@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 15:26:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/12/2025 11:50, YTC1 wrote:

    IT kit is one of my crimes, I have cables, connectors, memory, boards
    and drives. Just in case.

    Willing to form a support group with you.

    Aside from all of the usual cables I have:

    -A bag full of coax cable, connectors, T-pieces, and terminators, and
    the network cards they connect to, in case anyone wants to set up a LAN
    Doom deathmatch evening.

    -A working Compaq 286SLT laptop, circ 1994. It's not bad, size-wise, and
    the keyboard is connected to the base unit by a cable, so you can
    actually lift it out and put it on the desktop, it even has the little
    tabs to tilt it up. Modern laptops are much poorer for not having
    retained this design innovation.

    -A full length expansion card, designed for the original IBM PC/XT/AT
    which has built in an actual hard-drive (20Mb of storage!)

    -Another full length card which has a single connector, about the size
    of the edge of a fag packet, which takes a hydra-like cable, that splits
    into 8 individual cables, each ending in a serial port. At the company I worked at in '96 that card, with a 56k modem at the end of each cable, provided the Internet connection for 90 people

    -So, so many laptops. They've all had their drives stripped out (and
    kept, just in case) so they could just go to the tip... but, hey, who
    knows when you'll need a Windows '98 machine with 2Mb of RAM, right?

    I just wish I'd kept one of the two Apple IIe computers I used to own, although quite where I'd have stored a wide-carriage, sproket-fed,
    daisywheel printer for the last 40 years is uncertain.
    --
    AndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas)
    Honda VFR800-A9
    BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0
    BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3, DS#5
    The speccy Geordie twat.
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  • From chrisnd @ukrm@chrisnd@privacy.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 15:29:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/12/2025 11:50, YTC1 wrote:
    On 30/11/2025 19:59, Neil Ronketti wrote:
    I feel a bit guilty for derailing Champ's thread trying to sell his
    ZXR, so it's probably worth starting another one.

    Like Champ, I was quite startled by the length of time that people
    have owned bikes, and as mentioned, my record is about three years.
    And then

    I missed that, I've had the XJR now since September 1999.
    I'd still have my 2006 Peg if some bastard hadn't stolen it.

    I keep things because they work, and I am used to their foibles.
    I sell Jean's bikes though :-)



    What is it with tools? Why do I keep those, but nothing else?


    IT kit is one of my crimes, I have cables, connectors, memory, boards
    and drives. Just in case.


    Not to mention still boxed 486 processor fans, serial mice...
    OMG I've become a hoarder!
    And that's even before I start on the books and magazines.

    Chris
    --
    The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
    Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550T
    https://www.Deuchars.org.uk
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  • From Worst Case@"Worst Case"@dizum.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 18:15:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 15:29:56 +0000, "chrisnd @ukrm" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:

    And that's even before I start on the books and magazines.

    Ah, yes. I've offered loose back issues of *Proceedings* and *Journal
    of the ACM* to university libraries w/o encountering any takers. I
    suspect that even microfilm has been made obsolete by *.pdf although
    most librarians won't admit it.
    --
    Moreover I'm convinced that Reddit must be destroyed.

    Worst Case


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  • From Mike Fleming@mike@tauzero.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 17:33:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/12/2025 11:50, YTC1 wrote:

    IT kit is one of my crimes, I have cables, connectors, memory, boards
    and drives. Just in case.

    Musical bits and pieces for me. I have just wrapped up a pickup from a
    Fender Precision that someone has bought from me. I took it out of said Precision 40 years ago to put in a DiMarzio pickup, and it's been
    sitting around various desk drawers and spares boxes since then.
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  • From Simon Wilson@siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 18:18:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/12/2025 11:50, YTC1 wrote:


    IT kit is one of my crimes, I have cables, connectors, memory, boards
    and drives. Just in case.



    Oh yeah. I've just been down the tip with this lot today, there's loads
    more to go:

    https://immich.plaxy.com/share/nVm86TY-RGds0jP3C3kgxgCQUeTpZ0XbSX-7sdBwLK_jy7KTHvRBbLffQTV3ADgqsKE
    --
    /Simon
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 18:36:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/12/2025 15:26, AndrewR wrote:
    On 01/12/2025 11:50, YTC1 wrote:

    IT kit is one of my crimes, I have cables, connectors, memory, boards
    and drives. Just in case.

    Willing to form a support group with you.

    Aside from all of the usual cables I have:

    -A bag full of coax cable, connectors, T-pieces, and terminators, and
    the network cards they connect to, in case anyone wants to set up a LAN
    Doom deathmatch evening.

    Yep, got that as well. You never know when I might need to connect to an SF6500


    -A working Compaq 286SLT laptop, circ 1994. It's not bad, size-wise, and

    At least 3 old laptops, dating from around 2005

    Oh, and 4 old mobile phones.
    5, if you count my 1996 brick.



    -So, so many laptops. They've all had their drives stripped out (and
    kept, just in case) so they could just go to the tip... but, hey, who
    knows when you'll need a Windows '98 machine with 2Mb of RAM, right?

    I have a lot of RAM in my drawer :-)
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 21:59:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/12/2025 08:55, Sol wrote:
    On 30/11/2025 21:26, Mark Olson wrote:

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/mnWPhQtPdaTcr3Lz5

    I'm struck by how "mechanical" and "heath robinson" 1950's technology
    looks. Look at that engine! A myriad of pipes and that gut wrenching
    anxiety that people flew over the atlantic with those engines!

    Oh, I dunno. Look at a modern jet engine with the fairings off and
    there's a shed-load of plumbing, plus the ancillaries.

    Today, people listen to iPods while sitting between two or four engines
    whose combustors act like blowlamps onto the turbines, the flames being
    hotter than the melting point of the the metal the blades themselves are
    made of.
    --

    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 22:02:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/12/2025 10:53, Sqirrel99 wrote:
    On top of that, I really dislike most modern bikes' TFT displays and
    busy switchgear, which reduces my desire to change (FOMO ?) still further.

    You'd hate even more the secrecy around diagnostic information these
    days, though that might be improving a bit.
    --

    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Dec 1 22:03:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/12/2025 11:50, YTC1 wrote:
    IT kit is one of my crimes, I have cables, connectors, memory, boards
    and drives. Just in case.

    Heh. I have SCART cables for the same reason. Beat that.
    --

    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Dec 2 09:26:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/12/2025 18:18, Simon Wilson wrote:
    On 01/12/2025 11:50, YTC1 wrote:


    IT kit is one of my crimes, I have cables, connectors, memory, boards
    and drives. Just in case.



    Oh yeah. I've just been down the tip with this lot today, there's loads
    more to go:

    https://immich.plaxy.com/share/nVm86TY- RGds0jP3C3kgxgCQUeTpZ0XbSX-7sdBwLK_jy7KTHvRBbLffQTV3ADgqsKE


    You did strip out all RAM, drives etc 1st, surely!
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Dec 2 09:27:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/12/2025 22:03, PipL wrote:
    On 01/12/2025 11:50, YTC1 wrote:
    IT kit is one of my crimes, I have cables, connectors, memory, boards
    and drives. Just in case.

    Heh. I have SCART cables for the same reason. Beat that.


    SCSI connectors
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
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  • From Simon Wilson@siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Dec 2 10:22:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/12/2025 09:26, YTC1 wrote:
    On 01/12/2025 18:18, Simon Wilson wrote:
    On 01/12/2025 11:50, YTC1 wrote:


    IT kit is one of my crimes, I have cables, connectors, memory, boards
    and drives. Just in case.



    Oh yeah. I've just been down the tip with this lot today, there's
    loads more to go:

    https://immich.plaxy.com/share/nVm86TY-
    RGds0jP3C3kgxgCQUeTpZ0XbSX-7sdBwLK_jy7KTHvRBbLffQTV3ADgqsKE


    You did strip out all RAM, drives etc 1st, surely!



    Nope. Put a drill through the (hard) drives as it's been so long I've no
    idea what was on them.
    --
    /Simon
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  • From Sqirrel99@secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Dec 2 10:26:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    PipL wrote:
    Today, people listen to iPods while sitting between two or four engines whose combustors act like blowlamps onto the turbines, the flames being hotter than the melting point of the the metal the blades themselves are made of.

    I really didn't need to know that.
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  • From Sqirrel99@secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Dec 2 10:27:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    PipL wrote:
    Today, people listen to iPods while sitting between two or four engines whose combustors act like blowlamps onto the turbines, the flames being hotter than the melting point of the the metal the blades themselves are made of.

    I really didn't need to know that.
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  • From boots@news@millhouse-communications.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Dec 2 10:44:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/12/2025 21:59 PipL penned these words:
    hotter than the melting point of the the metal the blades themselves

    Been watching Veritasium <sp>?
    --
    Ian

    "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"
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  • From Champ@neal@champ.org.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Dec 2 13:09:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 10:22:58 +0000, Neil Ronketti
    <neil@ronketti.invalid> wrote:

    On 01/12/2025 09:32, Ace wrote:
    On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:59:33 +0000, Neil Ronketti
    <neil@ronketti.invalid> wrote:

    I feel a bit guilty for derailing Champ's thread

    NAHAY?

    Heh. Not as such - I just think it's good form to not derail a selling >thread.

    In truth, it wasn't a real 'for sale' post, it was a personal update
    post disguised as a for sale post.

    There hasn't been anyone on ukrm for 20 years who'd want to buy an old
    race bike
    --
    Champ
    neal at champ dot org dot uk

    I don't know, but I been told
    You never slow down, you never grow old
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  • From Champ@neal@champ.org.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Dec 2 13:12:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 18:18:04 +0000, Simon Wilson <siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 01/12/2025 11:50, YTC1 wrote:
    IT kit is one of my crimes, I have cables, connectors, memory, boards
    and drives. Just in case.

    Oh yeah. I've just been down the tip with this lot today, there's loads
    more to go: >https://immich.plaxy.com/share/nVm86TY-RGds0jP3C3kgxgCQUeTpZ0XbSX-7sdBwLK_jy7KTHvRBbLffQTV3ADgqsKE

    Wow!
    --
    Champ
    neal at champ dot org dot uk

    I don't know, but I been told
    You never slow down, you never grow old
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  • From Champ@neal@champ.org.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Dec 2 13:13:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 22:03:36 +0000, PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:

    On 01/12/2025 11:50, YTC1 wrote:
    IT kit is one of my crimes, I have cables, connectors, memory, boards
    and drives. Just in case.

    Heh. I have SCART cables for the same reason. Beat that.

    I have several SCART cables. Maybe more than you... [1]

    [1] how to turn *anything* into a competition :-)
    --
    Champ
    neal at champ dot org dot uk

    I don't know, but I been told
    You never slow down, you never grow old
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  • From Sol@solcambs@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Dec 2 19:20:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 01/12/2025 21:59, PipL wrote:


    Today, people listen to iPods while sitting between two or four engines whose combustors act like blowlamps onto the turbines, the flames being hotter than the melting point of the the metal the blades themselves are made of.

    Damn! I didn't know that; even though I know a Rolls Royce engineer who
    used to be in charge of the fans in the jets for a rather special aircraft!
    --
    Sol
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  • From Sol@solcambs@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Dec 2 19:22:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/12/2025 13:09, Champ wrote:

    There hasn't been anyone on ukrm for 20 years who'd want to buy an old
    race bike

    if I earned as I used to earnm, I might of. Oh hang on - 20 years you
    say? Ahhhh, yes! As you were!
    --
    Sol
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  • From PipL@pip@nowhere.nul to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Dec 2 19:30:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/12/2025 10:44, boots wrote:
    On 01/12/2025 21:59 PipL penned these words:
    hotter than the melting point of the the metal the blades themselves

    Been watching Veritasium <sp>?


    No, something I remembered from a RR book of gas turbines.
    --

    CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

    Pip
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  • From cat@cat@where.here to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Dec 2 19:44:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/12/2025 10:44, boots wrote:
    On 01/12/2025 21:59 PipL penned these words:
    hotter than the melting point of the the metal the blades themselves

    Been watching Veritasium <sp>?

    Whilst I knew this rubbish from my undergrad degree it WAS pretty fun
    watching him spend a few mins on the British struggle making blades out
    of steel while he SURE was cagey about exactly WHO was working out the
    advanced metallurgy to do a jet engine properly.
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  • From Alan Lee@alan@darkroom.plus.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Dec 3 06:40:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/11/2025 19:59, Neil Ronketti wrote:
    What is it with tools? Why do I keep those, but nothing else?

    My Grandad bought me a starter woodworking kit when I was 6, in 1970.
    Not the sort of childrens toy tools, these were proper woodworking tools
    of the time. I still have the Stanley hammer, and have used it for the architrave pins while building my house over the last year. Similarly,
    my other Grandard died in 89, I had one of his tiny hammers, and, again,
    have used that hammer in the last year on my house.
    Back on topic, I used to rebuild brit bikes and have a number of tools
    from when doing that in the mid 80's. A micrometer I bought at the time
    was dated 1956, I still have that, and used it last year. I've also got
    a metric micrometer that hasnt been used for 30+ years, but being as
    they are not worth much,and its a quality tool, I've just kept it.
    Oh, and on tools, my 1/2" socket set was bought in 85, and still in good condition with original ratchet. Some sockets have gone, the rathcet has
    been used as a hammer at times, but still working fine when I do some
    car maintenance.
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  • From boots@news@millhouse-communications.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Dec 3 09:42:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/12/2025 19:30 PipL penned these words:
    On 02/12/2025 10:44, boots wrote:
    On 01/12/2025 21:59 PipL penned these words:
    hotter than the melting point of the the metal the blades themselves

    Been watching Veritasium <sp>?


    No, something I remembered from a RR book of gas turbines.


    Coincidence then, I just last week watched the video URL:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxVdC7pBQM
    --
    Ian

    "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"
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  • From Simon Wilson@siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Dec 3 10:04:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/12/2025 10:44, boots wrote:
    On 01/12/2025 21:59 PipL penned these words:
    hotter than the melting point of the the metal the blades themselves

    Been watching Veritasium <sp>?


    Didn't watch it. I assume it's all down to the internal cooling
    passages. Turby used to design those blades IIRC. I also worked on a
    machining centre that did just one operation (trimmed a part of the
    "christmas tree" off them.)
    --
    /Simon
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  • From Ace@Ace@ch.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Dec 3 11:35:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 13:09:12 +0000, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

    On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 10:22:58 +0000, Neil Ronketti
    <neil@ronketti.invalid> wrote:

    There hasn't been anyone on ukrm for 20 years who'd want to buy an old
    race bike

    Err, when exactky was it that you bought the TZ?
    --
    Ace
    http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/
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  • From Another John@lalaw44@hotmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Dec 3 22:36:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 1 Dec 2025 at 15:26:44 GMT, "AndrewR" <andrew.rockface.spam@gmail.com> wrote:

    -A working Compaq 286SLT laptop, circ 1994. It's not bad, size-wise, and
    the keyboard is connected to the base unit by a cable, so you can
    actually lift it out and put it on the desktop, it even has the little
    tabs to tilt it up.

    Wahey! I never knew that! (though there's no real reason why I would, or should, have). I need to get another photo of ours, to show off that keyboard cable.

    I'm involved with this Collection: https://nuhc.ncl.ac.uk/NEWUC:2014.0001
    And our Founder took one of those Compaqs apart: https://nuhc.ncl.ac.uk/moca/micros/SLT256.htm

    We have hundreds of "pieces of old junk", as someone once referred to them. Of course, it's not junk at all - it just hasn't matured enough, yet, to become cultural treasure.

    Yours,
    Another John
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  • From Colin Irvine@look@colinandpat.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Dec 4 07:32:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 22:36:44 GMT, Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 1 Dec 2025 at 15:26:44 GMT, "AndrewR" <andrew.rockface.spam@gmail.com> >wrote:

    -A working Compaq 286SLT laptop, circ 1994. It's not bad, size-wise, and
    the keyboard is connected to the base unit by a cable, so you can
    actually lift it out and put it on the desktop, it even has the little
    tabs to tilt it up.

    Wahey! I never knew that! (though there's no real reason why I would, or >should, have). I need to get another photo of ours, to show off that keyboard >cable.

    I'm involved with this Collection: https://nuhc.ncl.ac.uk/NEWUC:2014.0001
    And our Founder took one of those Compaqs apart: >https://nuhc.ncl.ac.uk/moca/micros/SLT256.htm

    We have hundreds of "pieces of old junk", as someone once referred to them. Of >course, it's not junk at all - it just hasn't matured enough, yet, to become >cultural treasure.

    That's fascinating. I'd love a play with this - https://nuhc.ncl.ac.uk/NEWUC:2023.0021
    --
    Colin Irvine
    R1250RS
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  • From Pete Fisher@nospam@nospam.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Dec 4 07:48:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 03/12/2025 22:36, Another John wrote:
    On 1 Dec 2025 at 15:26:44 GMT, "AndrewR" <andrew.rockface.spam@gmail.com> wrote:

    -A working Compaq 286SLT laptop, circ 1994. It's not bad, size-wise, and
    the keyboard is connected to the base unit by a cable, so you can
    actually lift it out and put it on the desktop, it even has the little
    tabs to tilt it up.

    Wahey! I never knew that! (though there's no real reason why I would, or should, have). I need to get another photo of ours, to show off that keyboard cable.

    I'm involved with this Collection: https://nuhc.ncl.ac.uk/NEWUC:2014.0001
    And our Founder took one of those Compaqs apart: https://nuhc.ncl.ac.uk/moca/micros/SLT256.htm

    We have hundreds of "pieces of old junk", as someone once referred to them. Of
    course, it's not junk at all - it just hasn't matured enough, yet, to become cultural treasure.


    I had an ancient Compaq laptop in my 'collection' for years. Thrown out
    by work never bothered to sort out the BIOS CMOS batter,y so had to set
    the HDD C/H/S values every time. Not a big deal as I only used it to run
    a QBASIC hill climb timing system emulator to squirt messages via RS232.

    Fond memories of the Epson HX-20 we had for a while at work in the 80's.
    Used to acquire data from Br|+el & Kj|ar noise and vibration meters 'in
    the field'. I wrote a chimney height calculation (SO2 emission) program
    on it in BASIC so that it could be done on site. These days you would
    use Excel but though we had an Apple II Europlus and Visicalc that
    wasn't exactly portable.


    https://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/501/epson-hx-20/
    --
    Moto Morini 2C/375
    Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
    Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
    "Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"
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  • From Champ@neal@champ.org.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Dec 4 11:49:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 09:42:34 +0000, boots
    <news@millhouse-communications.co.uk> wrote:

    Been watching Veritasium <sp>?

    Coincidence then, I just last week watched the video >URL:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxVdC7pBQM

    Wow. I started watching, and had to watch it all!

    It's amazing how much science and technology is behind everything that
    has become normal and routine in modern life
    --
    Champ
    neal at champ dot org dot uk

    I don't know, but I been told
    You never slow down, you never grow old
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  • From Champ@neal@champ.org.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Dec 4 11:52:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Wed, 03 Dec 2025 11:35:59 +0100, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Dec 2025 13:09:12 +0000, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

    On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 10:22:58 +0000, Neil Ronketti
    <neil@ronketti.invalid> wrote:

    There hasn't been anyone on ukrm for 20 years who'd want to buy an old
    race bike

    Err, when exactky was it that you bought the TZ?

    2015

    OK,OK...
    "Tthere hasn't been anyone on ukrm who'd want to buy an old race bike,
    *apart from me*"
    --
    Champ
    neal at champ dot org dot uk

    I don't know, but I been told
    You never slow down, you never grow old
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  • From CT@ctrollen64@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Dec 7 10:46:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Sol wrote:

    I might of.
    ^^^^^^^^^^

    And no-one has picked up on this after five days?!

    Standards are slipping...
    --
    Chris
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  • From Simon Wilson@siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Dec 7 11:36:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 07/12/2025 10:46, CT wrote:
    Sol wrote:

    I might of.
    ^^^^^^^^^^

    And no-one has picked up on this after five days?!

    Standards are slipping...


    Propagation delay
    --
    /Simon
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  • From Mark Olson@olsonm@tiny.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sun Dec 7 14:01:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    CT <ctrollen64@gmail.com> wrote:
    Sol wrote:

    I might of.
    ^^^^^^^^^^

    And no-one has picked up on this after five days?!

    Standards are slipping...

    Oh, it was definitely noticed. But I didn't want to be the one.

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  • From Sol@solcambs@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Fri Dec 12 09:48:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 07/12/2025 14:01, Mark Olson wrote:
    CT <ctrollen64@gmail.com> wrote:
    Sol wrote:

    I might of.
    ^^^^^^^^^^

    And no-one has picked up on this after five days?!

    Standards are slipping...

    Oh, it was definitely noticed. But I didn't want to be the one.


    I'd like to say it was bait, but it wasn't. Perhaps it's my standards
    that are slipping.
    --
    Sol
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