• ITSO Card issuers

    From Roland Perry@roland@perry.uk to uk.railway on Wed Feb 25 19:40:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Here's my latest list (including some cards which are now obsolete):

    0100 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0107 Centro Swift (replaces Signature)
    0108 Southampton ENTCS
    0109 Stagecoach SWT
    0109 South Western Railway
    0110 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0115 Cambridgshire ENTCS
    0116 Scotrail Saltaire Card
    0119 Stagecoach EMT
    0124 Cheshire Travelcard
    0226 London Freedom Pass
    0127 Stagecoach bus Oxford, & Cambus

    0130 Scotrail [possibly ENTCS] *
    0302 ENTCS [possibly Reading] *

    0135 Kent ENTCS
    0140 The Key (Oxford bus, GoNorth East, Bluestar, Wilts & Dorset,
    Southern Vectis)
    0143 The Key (Southern & GTR)
    0246 Greater Anglia
    0247 C2C smart
    0285 Cross Country
    0286 TfWrail
    0287 GWR Touch
    0289 The Key (Southeastern)
    0331 EMR

    * More detail if available, please.
    --
    Roland Perry
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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.railway on Wed Feb 25 20:19:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
    Here's my latest list (including some cards which are now obsolete):

    0100 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0107 Centro Swift (replaces Signature)
    0108 Southampton ENTCS
    0109 Stagecoach SWT
    0109 South Western Railway
    0110 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0115 Cambridgshire ENTCS
    0116 Scotrail Saltaire Card
    0119 Stagecoach EMT
    0124 Cheshire Travelcard
    0226 London Freedom Pass
    0127 Stagecoach bus Oxford, & Cambus

    0130 Scotrail [possibly ENTCS] *
    0302 ENTCS [possibly Reading] *

    0135 Kent ENTCS
    0140 The Key (Oxford bus, GoNorth East, Bluestar, Wilts & Dorset,
    Southern Vectis)
    0143 The Key (Southern & GTR)
    0246 Greater Anglia
    0247 C2C smart
    0285 Cross Country
    0286 TfWrail
    0287 GWR Touch
    0289 The Key (Southeastern)
    0331 EMR

    * More detail if available, please.

    0196 Glasgow Subway (My Bramble)

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  • From Graeme Wall@rail@greywall.demon.co.uk to uk.railway on Wed Feb 25 21:51:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 25/02/2026 19:40, Roland Perry wrote:
    0302 ENTCS [possibly Reading] *

    Guildford
    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.


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  • From Graeme Wall@rail@greywall.demon.co.uk to uk.railway on Wed Feb 25 21:51:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 25/02/2026 19:40, Roland Perry wrote:
    0302 ENTCS [possibly Reading] *

    Sorry, Surrey
    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.


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  • From Roland Perry@roland@perry.uk to uk.railway on Thu Feb 26 09:25:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    In message <10nnqtp$150vu$2@dont-email.me>, at 21:51:52 on Wed, 25 Feb
    2026, Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> remarked:

    On 25/02/2026 19:40, Roland Perry wrote:
    0302 ENTCS [possibly Reading] *

    Sorry, Surrey

    Thanks, I'll publish a WWW version of this all in the foreseeable
    future.

    Here's another challenge: the next four digits are the beginning of the
    serial number (then three more and a checksum). Who's got the lowest.

    Some of mine:

    Southern The Key 0000-8
    First Scotrail 0003
    EMT Stagecoach 0004

    And possibly in a series not starting from zero:

    Cross Country 0500-5
    TfWrail 1000-5
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    Roland Perry
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  • From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.railway on Thu Feb 26 10:05:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Wed, 25 Feb 2026 19:40:11 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
    wrote:

    Here's my latest list (including some cards which are now obsolete):

    0100 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0107 Centro Swift (replaces Signature)
    0108 Southampton ENTCS
    0109 Stagecoach SWT
    0109 South Western Railway
    0110 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0115 Cambridgshire ENTCS
    0116 Scotrail Saltaire Card

    It's Saltire, named after the flag: https://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/usfeatures/saltire/index.html
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  • From Roland Perry@roland@perry.uk to uk.railway on Thu Feb 26 12:43:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    In message <6l60qk5udb56k4bov99qllhq6glab8ik52@4ax.com>, at 10:05:10 on
    Thu, 26 Feb 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
    On Wed, 25 Feb 2026 19:40:11 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
    wrote:

    Here's my latest list (including some cards which are now obsolete):

    0100 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0107 Centro Swift (replaces Signature)
    0108 Southampton ENTCS
    0109 Stagecoach SWT
    0109 South Western Railway
    0110 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0115 Cambridgshire ENTCS
    0116 Scotrail Saltaire Card

    It's Saltire, named after the flag: >https://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/usfeatures/saltire/index.html

    Thanks for the anti-typo advice. You are of course quite correct.
    --
    Roland Perry
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  • From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.railway on Thu Feb 26 12:59:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 12:43:53 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
    wrote:

    In message <6l60qk5udb56k4bov99qllhq6glab8ik52@4ax.com>, at 10:05:10 on
    Thu, 26 Feb 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
    On Wed, 25 Feb 2026 19:40:11 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
    wrote:

    Here's my latest list (including some cards which are now obsolete):

    0100 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0107 Centro Swift (replaces Signature)
    0108 Southampton ENTCS
    0109 Stagecoach SWT
    0109 South Western Railway
    0110 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0115 Cambridgshire ENTCS
    0116 Scotrail Saltaire Card

    It's Saltire, named after the flag: >>https://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/usfeatures/saltire/index.html

    Thanks for the anti-typo advice. You are of course quite correct.

    It's 'pour encourager les autres'.
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  • From Sam Wilson@ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk to uk.railway on Thu Feb 26 13:41:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
    Here's my latest list (including some cards which are now obsolete):

    [snip]
    0130 Scotrail [possibly ENTCS] *

    My ITSO card with 633597 0130 prefix is a Scottish National Entitlement
    Card, definitely not E[nglish]NTCS. ItrCOs branded rCLmygovscotrCY and is issued
    by The City Of Edinburgh Council. It works perfectly well as a bus and
    tram card but IrCOve never had occasion to use it for any kind of ScotRail function.

    Sam
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    The entity formerly known as Sam.Wilson@ed.ac.uk
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.railway on Thu Feb 26 14:05:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 26/02/2026 13:41, Sam Wilson wrote:
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
    Here's my latest list (including some cards which are now obsolete):

    [snip]
    0130 Scotrail [possibly ENTCS] *

    My ITSO card with 633597 0130 prefix is a Scottish National Entitlement
    Card, definitely not E[nglish]NTCS. ItrCOs branded rCLmygovscotrCY and is issued
    by The City Of Edinburgh Council. It works perfectly well as a bus and
    tram card but IrCOve never had occasion to use it for any kind of ScotRail function.

    Sam



    The number on it is used by the Edinburgh government and some other
    bodies to identify you. It is the library card number, for example.



    .
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  • From Roland Perry@roland@perry.uk to uk.railway on Thu Feb 26 14:10:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    In message <nsg0qkdar2f0oetvd1p58pnqjfa6gv3tdu@4ax.com>, at 12:59:58 on
    Thu, 26 Feb 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
    On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 12:43:53 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
    wrote:

    In message <6l60qk5udb56k4bov99qllhq6glab8ik52@4ax.com>, at 10:05:10 on >>Thu, 26 Feb 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
    On Wed, 25 Feb 2026 19:40:11 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
    wrote:

    Here's my latest list (including some cards which are now obsolete):

    0100 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0107 Centro Swift (replaces Signature)
    0108 Southampton ENTCS
    0109 Stagecoach SWT
    0109 South Western Railway
    0110 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0115 Cambridgshire ENTCS
    0116 Scotrail Saltaire Card

    It's Saltire, named after the flag: >>>https://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/usfeatures/saltire/index.html

    Thanks for the anti-typo advice. You are of course quite correct.

    It's 'pour encourager les autres'.

    I get conflated by Saltaire, the model village in Yorkshire, on the
    Leeds and Liverpool Canal.
    --
    Roland Perry
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  • From Roland Perry@roland@perry.uk to uk.railway on Thu Feb 26 14:14:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    In message <10npij0$1m68f$1@dont-email.me>, at 13:41:52 on Thu, 26 Feb
    2026, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
    Here's my latest list (including some cards which are now obsolete):

    [snip]
    0130 Scotrail [possibly ENTCS] *

    My ITSO card with 633597 0130 prefix is a Scottish National Entitlement >Card, definitely not E[nglish]NTCS. ItrCOs branded rCLmygovscotrCY and
    is issued by The City Of Edinburgh Council. It works perfectly well as
    a bus and tram card but IrCOve never had occasion to use it for any
    kind of ScotRail function.

    Thanks for the clarification.

    I did try my Scotrail ITSO card to buy, from its wallet, a rail ticket
    from Haymarket to Waverley, just to see if it worked. Not very many ITSO
    cards implement the cash wallet. I don't remember if it worked or not,
    but probably did.
    --
    Roland Perry
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  • From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.railway on Thu Feb 26 14:58:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 14:10:37 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
    wrote:

    In message <nsg0qkdar2f0oetvd1p58pnqjfa6gv3tdu@4ax.com>, at 12:59:58 on
    Thu, 26 Feb 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
    On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 12:43:53 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
    wrote:

    In message <6l60qk5udb56k4bov99qllhq6glab8ik52@4ax.com>, at 10:05:10 on >>>Thu, 26 Feb 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:
    On Wed, 25 Feb 2026 19:40:11 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> >>>>wrote:

    Here's my latest list (including some cards which are now obsolete):

    0100 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0107 Centro Swift (replaces Signature)
    0108 Southampton ENTCS
    0109 Stagecoach SWT
    0109 South Western Railway
    0110 ITSO Services Ltd (various ENTCS)
    0115 Cambridgshire ENTCS
    0116 Scotrail Saltaire Card

    It's Saltire, named after the flag: >>>>https://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/usfeatures/saltire/index.html

    Thanks for the anti-typo advice. You are of course quite correct.

    It's 'pour encourager les autres'.

    I get conflated by Saltaire, the model village in Yorkshire, on the
    Leeds and Liverpool Canal.

    ... which looks like a rather good place to visit.
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  • From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.railway on Thu Feb 26 15:00:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 14:14:18 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
    wrote:

    In message <10npij0$1m68f$1@dont-email.me>, at 13:41:52 on Thu, 26 Feb
    2026, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
    Here's my latest list (including some cards which are now obsolete):

    [snip]
    0130 Scotrail [possibly ENTCS] *

    My ITSO card with 633597 0130 prefix is a Scottish National Entitlement >>Card, definitely not E[nglish]NTCS. ItAs branded omygovscoto and
    is issued by The City Of Edinburgh Council. It works perfectly well as
    a bus and tram card but IAve never had occasion to use it for any
    kind of ScotRail function.

    Thanks for the clarification.

    I did try my Scotrail ITSO card to buy, from its wallet, a rail ticket
    from Haymarket to Waverley, just to see if it worked. Not very many ITSO >cards implement the cash wallet. I don't remember if it worked or not,
    but probably did.

    I expect it does since it is possible to load money for the Glasgow
    Subway.
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  • From Sam Wilson@ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk to uk.railway on Thu Feb 26 15:48:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:
    On 26/02/2026 13:41, Sam Wilson wrote:
    Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
    Here's my latest list (including some cards which are now obsolete):

    [snip]
    0130 Scotrail [possibly ENTCS] *

    My ITSO card with 633597 0130 prefix is a Scottish National Entitlement
    Card, definitely not E[nglish]NTCS. ItrCOs branded rCLmygovscotrCY and is issued
    by The City Of Edinburgh Council. It works perfectly well as a bus and
    tram card but IrCOve never had occasion to use it for any kind of ScotRail >> function.

    Sam



    The number on it is used by the Edinburgh government and some other
    bodies to identify you. It is the library card number, for example.

    Which of the two numbers identifies me, the 16-digit one by my name or the 18-digit one by the ITSO symbol?

    Sam
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  • From Roland Perry@roland@perry.uk to uk.railway on Thu Feb 26 17:40:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    In message <qsn0qk9hogsrgrv6iqhru9dnjobjp5oadk@4ax.com>, at 14:58:51 on
    Thu, 26 Feb 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:

    I get conflated by Saltaire, the model village in Yorkshire, on the
    Leeds and Liverpool Canal.

    ... which looks like a rather good place to visit.

    I've cruised past it on the L&L canal in June 53yrs ago and June 3yrs
    ago, but on neither occasion had the time to do a visit.

    The first trip because we had a very ambitious schedule, the second
    because water shortages meant having to get to specific locks in the
    short windows they were open, to avoid an additional 24hr layover.
    --
    Roland Perry
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.railway on Fri Feb 27 07:59:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 26/02/2026 15:48, Sam Wilson wrote:
    Which of the two numbers identifies me, the 16-digit one by my name or the 18-digit one by the ITSO symbol?


    No idea but when using for the library online, you remove two digits
    (can't remember which two!).



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  • From Roland Perry@roland@perry.uk to uk.railway on Fri Feb 27 09:01:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    In message <10nrito$2b69a$2@dont-email.me>, at 07:59:52 on Fri, 27 Feb
    2026, JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> remarked:
    On 26/02/2026 15:48, Sam Wilson wrote:
    Which of the two numbers identifies me, the 16-digit one by my name or the >> 18-digit one by the ITSO symbol?

    No idea but when using for the library online, you remove two digits
    (can't remember which two!).

    As the last two digits are personalised to the cardholder, but the first
    two are the same for everyone, I know which I'd plump for.
    --
    Roland Perry
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  • From Trolleybus@ken@birchanger.com to uk.railway on Fri Feb 27 10:19:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 17:40:24 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
    wrote:

    In message <qsn0qk9hogsrgrv6iqhru9dnjobjp5oadk@4ax.com>, at 14:58:51 on
    Thu, 26 Feb 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:

    I get conflated by Saltaire, the model village in Yorkshire, on the
    Leeds and Liverpool Canal.

    ... which looks like a rather good place to visit.

    I've cruised past it on the L&L canal in June 53yrs ago and June 3yrs
    ago, but on neither occasion had the time to do a visit.

    The first trip because we had a very ambitious schedule, the second
    because water shortages meant having to get to specific locks in the
    short windows they were open, to avoid an additional 24hr layover.

    I visited it again last year. The village is interesting and you're a
    short walk to the Shipley Glen Tramway. After visiting that it's not
    far along the towpath to the two Bingley Rises on the canal.

    Definitely worth a visit.
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.railway on Fri Feb 27 12:57:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 27/02/2026 10:19, Trolleybus wrote:
    I visited it again last year. The village is interesting and you're a
    short walk to the Shipley Glen Tramway. After visiting that it's not
    far along the towpath to the two Bingley Rises on the canal.


    There is a similar place at Stanley Mills in Perthshire, I was going to
    have a look around last year once when driving up the A9 but it was
    closed so must get back in a couple of months time.



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  • From Graeme Wall@rail@greywall.demon.co.uk to uk.railway on Fri Feb 27 15:14:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 27/02/2026 12:57, JMB99 wrote:
    On 27/02/2026 10:19, Trolleybus wrote:
    I visited it again last year. The village is interesting and you're a
    short walk to the Shipley Glen Tramway. After visiting that it's not
    far along the towpath to the two Bingley Rises on the canal.


    There is a similar place at Stanley Mills in Perthshire, I was going to
    have a look around last year once when driving up the A9 but it was
    closed so must get back in a couple of months time.




    Stanley Mills is quite nice, a lot of it is now apartments but there is
    a small museum on site.
    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.


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  • From Recliner@recliner.usenet@gmail.com to uk.railway on Fri Feb 27 15:24:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 10:19:24 +0000, Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 17:40:24 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
    wrote:

    In message <qsn0qk9hogsrgrv6iqhru9dnjobjp5oadk@4ax.com>, at 14:58:51 on >>Thu, 26 Feb 2026, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> remarked:

    I get conflated by Saltaire, the model village in Yorkshire, on the >>>>Leeds and Liverpool Canal.

    ... which looks like a rather good place to visit.

    I've cruised past it on the L&L canal in June 53yrs ago and June 3yrs
    ago, but on neither occasion had the time to do a visit.

    The first trip because we had a very ambitious schedule, the second >>because water shortages meant having to get to specific locks in the
    short windows they were open, to avoid an additional 24hr layover.

    I visited it again last year. The village is interesting and you're a
    short walk to the Shipley Glen Tramway. After visiting that it's not
    far along the towpath to the two Bingley Rises on the canal.

    Definitely worth a visit.

    Is it still surrounded by pubs? I believe Sir Titus didn't allow any pubs in the village (along with a number of other
    rules), so they were opened just off his land. Presumably those rules no longer apply?
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  • From Sam Wilson@ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk to uk.railway on Fri Feb 27 18:13:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:
    On 27/02/2026 10:19, Trolleybus wrote:
    I visited it again last year. The village is interesting and you're a
    short walk to the Shipley Glen Tramway. After visiting that it's not
    far along the towpath to the two Bingley Rises on the canal.


    There is a similar place at Stanley Mills in Perthshire, I was going to
    have a look around last year once when driving up the A9 but it was
    closed so must get back in a couple of months time.

    IrCOve canoed past Stanley Mills without actually visiting the site. I was also going to mention New Lanark, but canoeing past there would be a
    completely different enterprise.

    Sam
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  • From Mike Humphrey@mail@michaelhumphrey.me.uk to uk.railway on Sun Mar 1 08:56:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 15:24:10 +0000, Recliner wrote:
    Is it still surrounded by pubs? I believe Sir Titus didn't allow any
    pubs in the village (along with a number of other rules), so they were
    opened just off his land. Presumably those rules no longer apply?

    Saltaire is home to the Saltaire Brewery, and the annual Bradford Beer Festival, as well as quite a number of pubs. One of which is called "Don't Tell Titus"!

    Mike
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  • From Recliner@recliner.usenet@gmail.com to uk.railway on Sun Mar 1 09:21:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Mike Humphrey <mail@michaelhumphrey.me.uk> wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 15:24:10 +0000, Recliner wrote:
    Is it still surrounded by pubs? I believe Sir Titus didn't allow any
    pubs in the village (along with a number of other rules), so they were
    opened just off his land. Presumably those rules no longer apply?

    Saltaire is home to the Saltaire Brewery, and the annual Bradford Beer Festival, as well as quite a number of pubs. One of which is called "Don't Tell Titus"!

    Excellent!
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